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January 13, 2013 7:33:48 AM

I have built two machines, 1. AMD 2 INTEL, I have heard the i7 is much betterdue to it's architecture the first machine is AMD gigabyte ga-990XA-UD3, FX 8350 Piledriver, 16gb kingston hyper x 1866 mhz, 1 tb hard drive, 2. intel i7 3770k, GA-Z77X-UD5H, 16 gb corsair vengeance 1600mhz, 1tb hard drive both machines will run gigabyte's GTX 670 which machine is BETTER and why as i did a rate this computer on both of them and amd beat i7 by a mark, will be playing games like bf3, planetside 2, colonial marines when it's released so on, and what advantages am i likely to get???? :) 
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January 13, 2013 7:40:25 AM

Intel i7 is much stronger than amd one.even i5 beats fx 8350.so gaming experiance will be much better in i7.
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January 13, 2013 7:53:24 AM

the i7 is generally better than the 8350, in exception for a few non-gaming related programs that enjoy the 8 modular cores of the amd vs the 4 core 4 hyper thread of the i7. thje i7 will have a moderately better advantage when it comes to gaming though.
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January 13, 2013 7:53:30 AM

ASHISH65 said:
Intel i7 is much stronger than amd one.even i5 beats fx 8350.so gaming experiance will be much better in i7.


hmm, i have read the test scores and amd's piledriver is in between i5 and i7 so i agree i7 will be much stronger, but i have been with the amd fx 8350 for a couple months now it's not a slow processor 4.0 ghz without the boost on even the i7 only run's top at 3.9 ghz obviously without overclocking, so why would gaming be better?
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January 13, 2013 7:55:48 AM

by no means the the 8350 not a slow processor. in fact imo, its underrated. gettting your hands on a 8320(to save a bit of $) and a good 970 or 990 board is more budget friendly vs buying an i5 with a sli capable mobo. Albeit the 8320/8350 consumes more power, its still a capable cpu to run games on and can multitask outside of gaming better than the i5 can generally for its price. part of the reason why games arent taking full advantage of the amd cpus is that games in general are console ports, and the 360 runs with a tri core processor, so it never can make use of all the cores AMD cpus have(outside o fthe fact that there are only 4 integer units on the 8350, 1 per pair of cores). regardless, its still a good cpu, just that the current wave of games arent using all of its resources properly.
January 13, 2013 7:59:57 AM

dudewitbow said:
by no means the the 8350 not a slow processor. in fact imo, its underrated. gettting your hands on a 8320(to save a bit of $) and a good 970 or 990 board is more budget friendly vs buying an i5 with a sli capable mobo. Albeit the 8320/8350 consumes more power, its still a capable cpu to run games on and can multitask outside of gaming better than the i5 can generally for its price.


Yeah i agree brilliant answer, it is good at multitasking
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January 13, 2013 8:43:14 AM

Both cpu have different potential.for gaming intel i7 will be better than fx 8350 as fx does not ulilize its whole cores.frequency doesnot matter here as you said why 3.9ghz with turbo is better than 4.0ghz.i can for gaming - i7 and for multitasking - fx 8350.always remember "benchmarks are more important than specs."
January 13, 2013 3:13:54 PM

i7 3770k is a better all round processor i.e. it is good in both light threaded and heavily multithreaded tasks.Fx8350 is quite good in some heavily multithreaded scenario like video encoding and 3D rendering with some rendering applications.If one has the money and requires processing power then i7 3770k would be more suitable.
Fx8350 is quite well priced though.Another thing is the low cost of 970,990fx motherboards which are quite feature-rich but cost good amount lower than Z77 motherboards.If somebody is running multiple VMs(say 4-5) simultaneously and doing intensive tasks in them fx8350 is a good choice much better than i5 3570k for visualization.Also the k-series intel processors don't have VT-d.
The sandy/ivy bridge processors are much more sensitive to frequency,have much higher IPC.If one is going for an overclock-able rig,i5 3570k+z77 would be quite good.i5 3570k@4.5GHz would be better than fx8350@4.7GHz in majority of tasks.People also tend to forget that the number of FPU units is only half as number of cores which should be fixed in Steamroller.For gaming all of them would be close at 1080p but with games which require more CPU power(skyrim,Civilisation 5 etc) the fx8350 would fall behind somewhat.
For specific things like virtualisation,encryption,rendering,complex kernel compilations,fx8350 is quite a valuable proposition.
Also users need to look at what kind of applications they use for the specific tasks that they do.A 3D modelling software can have many things well threaded while another 3D modelling software can have very few things like rendering as multithreaded and most other functions like applying occlusion or some other light settings as single or light threaded.
People use the word multitasking and multi-threading quite loosely.Here is just a real world example of multi-tasking:Multitasking: Gaming while transcoding video
Each of these processors are fine and people can pick them depending upon their usage and requirements.
January 13, 2013 3:27:18 PM

Comparing a CPU that costs over 300 to one that costs less than 200 should be pretty clear what is better.
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January 13, 2013 4:38:46 PM

In theory the i7 is the better chip, but it is also a vastly more expensive chip and in many GPU limited games barely shows up better. While the i7 for certain workloads represents fantastic part for gaming compared to a i5 3570 and FX 8350 it represents the worst value for money hardly discerning itself over the competition for around $350.

The more acceptable gaming comparison is between the $220 i5 3570k and the $190 FX 8350 or $170 FX 8320 in some instances the FX part does share wins over the i5 and in other the i5 wins but all in all to close to generally tell apart. Where AMD does stand out is overall value for money, you can put the FX8350/20 onto the highest end motherboard (ASUS Crosshair V Formula Z) and still put up a high end gaming system for less than a Intel equivalent if money is no option.

While Intel holds the advantage in general x86 performance, don't think the AMD parts don't have game. In gaming terms the FX8XXX and i5> i7 in price to performance.
January 14, 2013 5:04:01 PM

sarinaide said:
While Intel holds the advantage in general x86 performance, don't think the AMD parts don't have game. In gaming terms the FX8XXX and i5> i7 in price to performance.


you never run only the game, I expect most will also have a couple of browser windows opened, with some flash app. hogging a core, a music player, Skype or other IM software, an antivirus ... in my experience the A10 APU beats an i5 on a computer where lots of processes are started, and would execute much faster when the software is optimized for multicore use, for example winrar.
January 18, 2013 5:22:34 AM

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=551
^ Check this out. I had the same question as I was trying to figure out (in general) which was better.
The i7 is simply a haus...
Mind you, I am a very big fan of AMD.
I hated to admit that the intel was better but it reigns true in almost all benchmarks. Although it is a much more expensive cpu. The 8350 is still a great cpu but is laking a little in many areas. Game wise it seems as though the i7 really comes into play and should be fantastic for any game out. My friend just bought one and can handle anything you throw at it (so far: BF3, Far Cry 3, Planetside 2, and Skyrim all run smooth 60+ FPS at all times on High - Ultra settings).
And as a plus I found one on sale at http://www.microcenter.com/product/388575/Core_i7_3770K... bad thing is it is in-store only. Luckily I have one a few hours away and can snag this sucker for $229.
Anyways, on your set-up you should be great with either!
Good Luck!
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January 18, 2013 5:42:02 AM

Walk in deal only, not all the time, generally its a $360 pricetag up against a $190 pricetag. For gaming the 3770K offers nothing over the 3570k so it represents bad value for money when going on RRP's.
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January 18, 2013 5:43:42 AM

The amd 8320/8350/8150/8120 arent real 8cores. in every situation the 3770k is a faster cpu and uses less power And is on the 22nm AND supports pcie 3.0

Now that being said the 8350 will be more than enough. i currently have a amd 6300 so im no way a intel fan. be warned at stock clocks it bottlenecked my 7970ghz
i got around 70-75% gpu usage on battlefield 3. then i put it to 4.5ghz and i COULD NOT be happier. So it depends? can you overclock? if not just go the intel route. however when the amd 8350/20 is overclocked it will fly and be more than enough. gooday. overall

if overclocking? jump on that 8320 overclock it be happy
if not overclocking? jump on the 3770 (non k)

And REMBER THIS the lga 1155 socket is dead (huge reason i got my 6300)
steam roller will be on am3+ http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2208525/amd-st... Laterbro
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January 31, 2013 6:07:51 AM

You guys got to remember you are comparing these CPU's based on their stock frequencies which in no way dictates actual performance of these unlocked processors.

When you take into consideration the 8350 has a stock 500 mhz frequency advantage and is still falling way behind in most things it paints a much clearer picture.

Both of these processors have the same OC potential in most cases. Taking into consideration the clock-clock performance the i7 blows away the 8350. There is no contest.
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January 31, 2013 6:11:13 AM

stantheman123 said:
The amd 8320/8350/8150/8120 arent real 8cores. in every situation the 3770k is a faster cpu and uses less power And is on the 22nm AND supports pcie 3.0

Now that being said the 8350 will be more than enough. i currently have a amd 6300 so im no way a intel fan. be warned at stock clocks it bottlenecked my 7970ghz
i got around 70-75% gpu usage on battlefield 3. then i put it to 4.5ghz and i COULD NOT be happier. So it depends? can you overclock? if not just go the intel route. however when the amd 8350/20 is overclocked it will fly and be more than enough. gooday. overall

if overclocking? jump on that 8320 overclock it be happy
if not overclocking? jump on the 3770 (non k)

And REMBER THIS the lga 1155 socket is dead (huge reason i got my 6300)
steam roller will be on am3+ http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2208525/amd-st... Laterbro

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just for small clarification, there's a few things the 8350 can beat the 3770k in, its just pretty small
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January 31, 2013 7:44:01 AM

How the hell can you people compare a processor which is priced to compete with an i5, to an i7.

Ridiculous
February 17, 2013 5:15:25 AM

Finally someone said that..... People are comparing the i7 to the fx-8350 because the 8350 is the top of the line for amd. Personally I am about to buy a new pc and going with the amd. EVEN THOUGH it is slower than the i7 in gaming and around the i5 mark, if it is not using all it's cores, then your gaming preformance will drop a bit, but you can have other apps open. If you want an all round processor then amd or i7, HOWEVER, i7 is a LOT more expensive.
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February 18, 2013 2:07:16 AM

I have an i73770k system and an AMD FX 8350 system, one stays at work, one for play, I prefer the FX 8350. All my hardware is comparable as well. I just feel like the FX handles Windows 8 alittle faster and encodes WAY faster. Plus I dont notice any difference between the 2 in any high end games like BF3, Skyrim, Farcry 3. for the price I'd never buy another i7...
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February 18, 2013 2:11:56 AM

BuddiLuva said:
How the hell can you people compare a processor which is priced to compete with an i5, to an i7.

Ridiculous


Well it's because people get touchy about a cheaper CPU touching the performance of a very pricey one :)  Good job AMD keep ruffling those feathers!
February 18, 2013 3:24:44 AM

in my opining it is not fair to compare cpu clock for clock.
reason is due to they are not event the same architecture....
like comparing orange and apple and want to find out which one is sweeter....
both of them is oc unlock then it should be oc (is like buying a race car and running it 120km/h what the point?)
Test should be done in where both of them is at her highest possible oc (eg using NH-D14 or what ever cooler)
max i saw is around 4.8 for i5 3570k and 5.2 for fx 8350 both of them is under water.
February 18, 2013 6:59:09 AM

can anyone tell me how you spot the diff bettween the i7 and fx in performance without benchmarks? i thought real life u wouldnt notice! and for all you intel fans! there is no better intel or amd! they are both as good as one another just diff strong points!
February 18, 2013 8:33:37 AM

1155 is dead, AM3+ is not :)  the i7 is stronger now, but if you save some doe youcan wait for steamroller to come along and perhaps steamroll Intel away?

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February 18, 2013 9:40:25 AM

simple one has 8 cores. even if its 4cores times 2 modules. faster than most opterons 8cores. very useful for design and video encoding etc.

gaming does alright but trails behind intel sadly.

3770k for the gaming part but if you need to design and do audio-video and maya3d and autocad. the fx is a nice bargain if not the 3570k is a winner for gaming here. 3770k has no use in gaming as ht can actually give negative performance. and i dont see ht being utilized in gaming anytime soon

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February 18, 2013 12:22:51 PM

iceclock said:
simple one has 8 cores. even if its 4cores times 2 modules. faster than most opterons 8cores. very useful for design and video encoding etc.

gaming does alright but trails behind intel sadly.

3770k for the gaming part but if you need to design and do audio-video and maya3d and autocad. the fx is a nice bargain if not the 3570k is a winner for gaming here. 3770k has no use in gaming as ht can actually give negative performance. and i dont see ht being utilized in gaming anytime soon


I definitely agree, but for people who game and want to go AMD it's not like the FX is that far behind and i7 and it is as good if not better than an i5 and cheaper. Between my i7 system and FX 8350 system with the same RAM, GPU, and Gigabyte mobo I can't even notice a difference in gaming. So FX is good for gaming too, fast and can hable multiple gpus, oc it to get the most out of it but I love my FX, I love my i7 system too I am just always impressed with how closely AMD can compete with Intel's top cpus for alot less.
February 18, 2013 12:30:14 PM

fx8350 is fine its a little slower than the i5....but a great processor for the price, if i had an amd socket type mobo, i would buy it.....but i wouldn't change my mobo to get it. the i5 3570k is all u need for gaming as stated by everyone else, gaming does not support the hyper threading that the i7 offeres, so gaming is no different between those two processors. if you have anything processing intensive, i'd go with the i7 3770k over the amd card.
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February 18, 2013 12:32:21 PM

HoboCannibaL said:
fx8350 is fine its a little slower than the i5....but a great processor for the price, if i had an amd socket type mobo, i would buy it.....but i wouldn't change my mobo to get it. the i5 3570k is all u need for gaming as stated by everyone else, gaming does not support the hyper threading that the i7 offeres, so gaming is no different between those two processors. if you have anything processing intensive, i'd go with the i7 3770k over the amd card.


Have you done your research? The i5 is not faster than an FX8350. My girl's i5 system is slow as hell.
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February 18, 2013 12:44:39 PM

I def love my i7 too, I dont know I just feel better buying from AMD when they can compete. They're the udnerdog guys!
February 18, 2013 12:59:46 PM

realistically you can go either way, try to avoid fanboyism when picking parts, try to get the best bang for your buck (price/performance ratio). what is the processor exactly needed for?
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February 19, 2013 12:25:26 AM

easy decision pure gaming=i5 . video editing and some gaming amd 8350.

enought said

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February 19, 2013 7:48:14 AM

chrisafp07 said:
Have you done your research? The i5 is not faster than an FX8350. My girl's i5 system is slow as hell.




The 3570k is certainly faster in absolutely everything that required 4 cores or less; which is pretty much most applications. You making hte claim that your GF i5 is "slow as hell" is just silly. Sounds like you are making that little story up. Either that or she has a defective computer.
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February 19, 2013 10:02:00 AM

Is OP even paying attention to this thread ?
February 19, 2013 11:10:57 AM

op is like standing there and let us fire all the bullet ?
if u want biggest ban for the $$$ to build a AMD machine FX6300 or FX 8320.
For Intel side i5 3570k
February 19, 2013 12:18:29 PM

bigj1985 said:
The 3570k is certainly faster in absolutely everything that required 4 cores or less; which is pretty much most applications. You making hte claim that your GF i5 is "slow as hell" is just silly. Sounds like you are making that little story up. Either that or she has a defective computer.


i have to agree bigj1985, lol, u know, usually its not the processor that makes a computer run slow hah, its typically either virus's, not enough ram, or having really large ram consuming programs running in the background (such as anti-virus software)

there are a TON of people on here that use the 3570k for high end gaming, don't you think there's a reason for that hah
February 19, 2013 12:22:36 PM

the op needs to just pick one, he has had plenty of information given on the thread, anything else being said is just repeating what's already been said
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February 19, 2013 12:28:02 PM

HoboCannibaL said:
the op needs to just pick one, he has had plenty of information given on the thread, anything else being said is just repeating what's already been said


Yea lol, it has turned into an Intel/AMD debate.

Summary is. i5 is a great CPU for gaming. Priced slightly higher than the FX 8350. %The FX 8350 is great for video editing and also good for gaming and excels at multitasking, and the i7 is an expensive beast that really isn't worth it for gaming due to the value of the other 2 cpus. I would go i5 or FX 8350, get a good cooling solution, overclock them and enjoy yourself!
February 19, 2013 2:10:03 PM

+1
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February 19, 2013 9:59:48 PM

in video encoding and photoshop its quite close. for the price the 3570k is better bang for bucks if ur purely gaming but if u want a globally diverse cpu and do some gaming the 8350 is good.

3770k isnt that great of a deal tbh.

February 25, 2013 1:51:26 AM

sorry intel guys, although price has been brought up, it has not really been the focus. the fx8350 is a very capable cpu somewhere between i5 and i7. the major difference between choosing intel i5/i7 and amd fx8350 is going to be price. amd is targeting a demographic that enjoys performance (albeit not top of the line) while still maintaining a reasonable budget.

Fx8300 + Gigabyte 990 Mobo = $269 Bundled. (http://www.microcenter.com/site/products/amd_bundles.as...)

I looked (sparingly as I am tired) but I could not find a comparable i5/i7 cpu + mobo bundle for that price.

in my opinion, (and I like to find the best bang for buck) amd wins hands down.

for those who have to have the absolute top of the line then i7 wins.
February 26, 2013 12:34:02 PM

I would go for the FX, Cheaper and it performs really well... Also apparently Crysis 3 runs much better on the new FX as it spreads well over the 8 cores. I believe LinusTechTips will be making benchmarks on that as he said it on the one of his Live Streams ;) 
February 26, 2013 1:49:11 PM

i totally agree with the guys!and remember AMD 8350 is compared to i5 3570K!there is no comparison to an i7 from AMD!3770k is pretty much a beast so you need two 8350 to compare!
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February 26, 2013 1:53:37 PM

Gennaios said:
i totally agree with the guys!and remember AMD 8350 is compared to i5 3570K!there is no comparison to an i7 from AMD!3770k is pretty much a beast so you need two 8350 to compare!


Exactly, you see so many people comparing the FX8350 to the i7 3770k, its like comparing a cars, you can't compare a Mustang to a Ferrari, unless you can overclock one :p  Both are fast but are in different classes.
February 26, 2013 1:55:11 PM

true! ;) 
March 5, 2013 1:11:43 PM

I say just buy what will suite your needs who cares about what one is faster blah blah blah who cares i have the AMD 8350 and it works just fine for me i think AMD and Intel are great at what they do.

Gaming is not all about the CPU either its about other things as well system setup, overclocked vs not overclocked the GPU your using ram the actual game so many other benefactors that need to be all taken into consideration.

Not everyone has the same Computer even if its the same if you know what i mean.
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March 5, 2013 5:09:11 PM

Intel Core i7-3770K scores 8.0 Cinebench points at stock clocks and AMD FX-8350 - 6.9! Rendering is the most stressful test for a CPU, and the powerful processors show their potential there. There's not even one single aspect in which the AMD FX-8350 beats the 3770K! Maybe some of you are going to say that in a number of games the FX-8350 is better, but the difference is probably 1 - 2% and I can assure you that on the long run in the future, the 3770K is going to have higher overall performance in new games compared to the FX-8350! The price is higher, but you get performance which the FX-8350 is far away from. Vishera is 32nm and Ivy Bridge is 22nm which means that the 3770K is smaller and the smaller the chip is, the faster data is transferred. The Intel Core i7-965 Extreme Edition was released in 2008 and is still a very powerful CPU for gaming and rendering, 5 years later! It was one of the best CPUs of its time just like the 3770K now! I'd say that if you grab one 3770K, you'll have no problems with games till 2017 - 2018!
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March 14, 2013 12:51:51 PM

The newest benchmarks from teksyndicate using DUPLICATE systems except CPU/MoBo show the FX-8350 DESTROYS the i7-3770k and even the 3820...not by a little...by A LOT...if you plan on running ANY moderately CPU intensive game...buy the AMD...it is flat out better for 1/2 the $

Check the real benchmarks out...read the comments on page 2 to see where he even ran it with GTX670's and the AMD STILL killed the i5 and i7....he ran the benchmarks with OC on CPU and GPU and w/o OC on CPU/GPU

http://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-357...
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March 14, 2013 1:23:01 PM

8350rocks said:
The newest benchmarks from teksyndicate using DUPLICATE systems except CPU/MoBo show the FX-8350 DESTROYS the i7-3770k and even the 3820...not by a little...by A LOT...if you plan on running ANY moderately CPU intensive game...buy the AMD...it is flat out better for 1/2 the $

Check the real benchmarks out...read the comments on page 2 to see where he even ran it with GTX670's and the AMD STILL killed the i5 and i7....he ran the benchmarks with OC on CPU and GPU and w/o OC on CPU/GPU

http://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-357...


Even putting these benchmarks aside, the 8350 is just a great cpu for its price, I love mine. It is frustrating when (like the poster a few up) try to keep comparing the 8350 to the 3770k... guys srsly, they aren't in the same price range, does anyone get that? You have to compare apples with apples. That said, nice to see our 8350 getting some good rep ;) 

March 14, 2013 1:32:33 PM

ok firstly @mbakley who cares which one is faster?didnt i understand this right?
a cpus power is fully tested only in rendering!as jnjnilson6 mentioned above in cinebech the 3770k maes 1-2 points more then the +2 core amd cpu!

@8350rocks?do you even know what a cpu is!i dont want to insult you but you are telling me rubbish!FX 8350 destroys the 3770k?first time i see that!every amd fan accent the face that the 8350 is only compared with the i7 so please if you dont know just dont say it!

BTW the video you sent is the only video in youtube whose channel is made by amd fans(if you know of course)!

the 8350 is even consuming 35% more power!fx series was an amds failure!i am not an intel fan but my duty is to say things right!

if you want a trustable benchmark and not a youtube idiot amd fan then look here! http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/551?vs=697
now who destroys who?

destroys the 3770k??(((WHO TOLD YOU THAT))so many years in the cpu staff i have seen many amd fans but not heard something like that(friendly)
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March 14, 2013 1:40:14 PM

Gennaios said:
ok firstly @mbakley who cares which one is faster?didnt i understand this right?
a cpus power is fully tested only in rendering!as jnjnilson6 mentioned above in cinebech the 3770k maes 1-2 points more then the +2 core amd cpu!

@8350rocks?do you even know what a cpu is!i dont want to insult you but you are telling me rubbish!FX 8350 destroys the 3770k?first time i see that!every amd fan accent the face that the 8350 is only compared with the i7 so please if you dont know just dont say it!

BTW the video you sent is the only video in youtube whose channel is made by amd fans(if you know of course)!

the 8350 is even consuming 35% more power!fx series was an amds failure!i am not an intel fan but my duty is to say things right!

if you want a trustable benchmark and not a youtube idiot amd fan then look here! http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/551?vs=697
now who destroys who?

destroys the 3770k??(((WHO TOLD YOU THAT))so many years in the cpu staff i have seen many amd fans but not heard something like that(friendly)


With all due respect to say that the FX series was AMD's failure is insulting and wrong. Nonetheless, I will agree with you that face to face the 8350 is not nearly as strong as the 3770k. Keep in mind though that there are some areas where the 8350 comes close, not saying that it is stronger just that oddly in a few rendering and editing areas it can bench higher. Overall we all know Intel cores are slower clock speed but much more powerful.

My main point though is that the FX series is FAR from failure, for you to say that does make you appear angry at the poster beforehand even though you state you are not being insulting you definitely are. I would hope the 3770 was alot stronger than the 8350 for $100 more.

!