Advantages i7 3770k or AMD FX 8350 Piledriver

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I have built two machines, 1. AMD 2 INTEL, I have heard the i7 is much betterdue to it's architecture the first machine is AMD gigabyte ga-990XA-UD3, FX 8350 Piledriver, 16gb kingston hyper x 1866 mhz, 1 tb hard drive, 2. intel i7 3770k, GA-Z77X-UD5H, 16 gb corsair vengeance 1600mhz, 1tb hard drive both machines will run gigabyte's GTX 670 which machine is BETTER and why as i did a rate this computer on both of them and amd beat i7 by a mark, will be playing games like bf3, planetside 2, colonial marines when it's released so on, and what advantages am i likely to get???? :)
 
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the i7 is generally better than the 8350, in exception for a few non-gaming related programs that enjoy the 8 modular cores of the amd vs the 4 core 4 hyper thread of the i7. thje i7 will have a moderately better advantage when it comes to gaming though.
 
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hmm, i have read the test scores and amd's piledriver is in between i5 and i7 so i agree i7 will be much stronger, but i have been with the amd fx 8350 for a couple months now it's not a slow processor 4.0 ghz without the boost on even the i7 only run's top at 3.9 ghz obviously without overclocking, so why would gaming be better?
 
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by no means the the 8350 not a slow processor. in fact imo, its underrated. gettting your hands on a 8320(to save a bit of $) and a good 970 or 990 board is more budget friendly vs buying an i5 with a sli capable mobo. Albeit the 8320/8350 consumes more power, its still a capable cpu to run games on and can multitask outside of gaming better than the i5 can generally for its price. part of the reason why games arent taking full advantage of the amd cpus is that games in general are console ports, and the 360 runs with a tri core processor, so it never can make use of all the cores AMD cpus have(outside o fthe fact that there are only 4 integer units on the 8350, 1 per pair of cores). regardless, its still a good cpu, just that the current wave of games arent using all of its resources properly.
 
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Yeah i agree brilliant answer, it is good at multitasking
 
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Both cpu have different potential.for gaming intel i7 will be better than fx 8350 as fx does not ulilize its whole cores.frequency doesnot matter here as you said why 3.9ghz with turbo is better than 4.0ghz.i can for gaming - i7 and for multitasking - fx 8350.always remember "benchmarks are more important than specs."
 
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i7 3770k is a better all round processor i.e. it is good in both light threaded and heavily multithreaded tasks.Fx8350 is quite good in some heavily multithreaded scenario like video encoding and 3D rendering with some rendering applications.If one has the money and requires processing power then i7 3770k would be more suitable.
Fx8350 is quite well priced though.Another thing is the low cost of 970,990fx motherboards which are quite feature-rich but cost good amount lower than Z77 motherboards.If somebody is running multiple VMs(say 4-5) simultaneously and doing intensive tasks in them fx8350 is a good choice much better than i5 3570k for visualization.Also the k-series intel processors don't have VT-d.
The sandy/ivy bridge processors are much more sensitive to frequency,have much higher IPC.If one is going for an overclock-able rig,i5 3570k+z77 would be quite good.i5 3570k@4.5GHz would be better than fx8350@4.7GHz in majority of tasks.People also tend to forget that the number of FPU units is only half as number of cores which should be fixed in Steamroller.For gaming all of them would be close at 1080p but with games which require more CPU power(skyrim,Civilisation 5 etc) the fx8350 would fall behind somewhat.
For specific things like virtualisation,encryption,rendering,complex kernel compilations,fx8350 is quite a valuable proposition.
Also users need to look at what kind of applications they use for the specific tasks that they do.A 3D modelling software can have many things well threaded while another 3D modelling software can have very few things like rendering as multithreaded and most other functions like applying occlusion or some other light settings as single or light threaded.
People use the word multitasking and multi-threading quite loosely.Here is just a real world example of multi-tasking:Multitasking: Gaming while transcoding video
Each of these processors are fine and people can pick them depending upon their usage and requirements.
 
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In theory the i7 is the better chip, but it is also a vastly more expensive chip and in many GPU limited games barely shows up better. While the i7 for certain workloads represents fantastic part for gaming compared to a i5 3570 and FX 8350 it represents the worst value for money hardly discerning itself over the competition for around $350.

The more acceptable gaming comparison is between the $220 i5 3570k and the $190 FX 8350 or $170 FX 8320 in some instances the FX part does share wins over the i5 and in other the i5 wins but all in all to close to generally tell apart. Where AMD does stand out is overall value for money, you can put the FX8350/20 onto the highest end motherboard (ASUS Crosshair V Formula Z) and still put up a high end gaming system for less than a Intel equivalent if money is no option.

While Intel holds the advantage in general x86 performance, don't think the AMD parts don't have game. In gaming terms the FX8XXX and i5> i7 in price to performance.
 
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you never run only the game, I expect most will also have a couple of browser windows opened, with some flash app. hogging a core, a music player, Skype or other IM software, an antivirus ... in my experience the A10 APU beats an i5 on a computer where lots of processes are started, and would execute much faster when the software is optimized for multicore use, for example winrar.
 
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http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=551
^ Check this out. I had the same question as I was trying to figure out (in general) which was better.
The i7 is simply a haus...
Mind you, I am a very big fan of AMD.
I hated to admit that the intel was better but it reigns true in almost all benchmarks. Although it is a much more expensive cpu. The 8350 is still a great cpu but is laking a little in many areas. Game wise it seems as though the i7 really comes into play and should be fantastic for any game out. My friend just bought one and can handle anything you throw at it (so far: BF3, Far Cry 3, Planetside 2, and Skyrim all run smooth 60+ FPS at all times on High - Ultra settings).
And as a plus I found one on sale at http://www.microcenter.com/product/388575/Core_i7_3770K_35GHz_LGA_1155_Processor bad thing is it is in-store only. Luckily I have one a few hours away and can snag this sucker for $229.
Anyways, on your set-up you should be great with either!
Good Luck!
 
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The amd 8320/8350/8150/8120 arent real 8cores. in every situation the 3770k is a faster cpu and uses less power And is on the 22nm AND supports pcie 3.0

Now that being said the 8350 will be more than enough. i currently have a amd 6300 so im no way a intel fan. be warned at stock clocks it bottlenecked my 7970ghz
i got around 70-75% gpu usage on battlefield 3. then i put it to 4.5ghz and i COULD NOT be happier. So it depends? can you overclock? if not just go the intel route. however when the amd 8350/20 is overclocked it will fly and be more than enough. gooday. overall

if overclocking? jump on that 8320 overclock it be happy
if not overclocking? jump on the 3770 (non k)

And REMBER THIS the lga 1155 socket is dead (huge reason i got my 6300)
steam roller will be on am3+ http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2208525/amd-sticks-with-socket-am3-for-steamroller Laterbro
 
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You guys got to remember you are comparing these CPU's based on their stock frequencies which in no way dictates actual performance of these unlocked processors.

When you take into consideration the 8350 has a stock 500 mhz frequency advantage and is still falling way behind in most things it paints a much clearer picture.

Both of these processors have the same OC potential in most cases. Taking into consideration the clock-clock performance the i7 blows away the 8350. There is no contest.
 
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just for small clarification, there's a few things the 8350 can beat the 3770k in, its just pretty small
 
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Finally someone said that..... People are comparing the i7 to the fx-8350 because the 8350 is the top of the line for amd. Personally I am about to buy a new pc and going with the amd. EVEN THOUGH it is slower than the i7 in gaming and around the i5 mark, if it is not using all it's cores, then your gaming preformance will drop a bit, but you can have other apps open. If you want an all round processor then amd or i7, HOWEVER, i7 is a LOT more expensive.
 
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I have an i73770k system and an AMD FX 8350 system, one stays at work, one for play, I prefer the FX 8350. All my hardware is comparable as well. I just feel like the FX handles Windows 8 alittle faster and encodes WAY faster. Plus I dont notice any difference between the 2 in any high end games like BF3, Skyrim, Farcry 3. for the price I'd never buy another i7...
 
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Well it's because people get touchy about a cheaper CPU touching the performance of a very pricey one :) Good job AMD keep ruffling those feathers!
 
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in my opining it is not fair to compare cpu clock for clock.
reason is due to they are not event the same architecture....
like comparing orange and apple and want to find out which one is sweeter....
both of them is oc unlock then it should be oc (is like buying a race car and running it 120km/h what the point?)
Test should be done in where both of them is at her highest possible oc (eg using NH-D14 or what ever cooler)
max i saw is around 4.8 for i5 3570k and 5.2 for fx 8350 both of them is under water.
 
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can anyone tell me how you spot the diff bettween the i7 and fx in performance without benchmarks? i thought real life u wouldnt notice! and for all you intel fans! there is no better intel or amd! they are both as good as one another just diff strong points!
 
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simple one has 8 cores. even if its 4cores times 2 modules. faster than most opterons 8cores. very useful for design and video encoding etc.

gaming does alright but trails behind intel sadly.

3770k for the gaming part but if you need to design and do audio-video and maya3d and autocad. the fx is a nice bargain if not the 3570k is a winner for gaming here. 3770k has no use in gaming as ht can actually give negative performance. and i dont see ht being utilized in gaming anytime soon

 
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I definitely agree, but for people who game and want to go AMD it's not like the FX is that far behind and i7 and it is as good if not better than an i5 and cheaper. Between my i7 system and FX 8350 system with the same RAM, GPU, and Gigabyte mobo I can't even notice a difference in gaming. So FX is good for gaming too, fast and can hable multiple gpus, oc it to get the most out of it but I love my FX, I love my i7 system too I am just always impressed with how closely AMD can compete with Intel's top cpus for alot less.
 
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