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• Intel Core i7-3930K Processor BX80619i73930K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492
• ASUS Rampage IV Gene LGA 2011 Intel X79
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131805
• G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231429
• Corsair Force Series GT SSD 120GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233191
• Western Digital WD Black HHD 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533
• EVGA SSC 02G-P4-3653-KR GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130841
• ASUS DVD Burner Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135240
• CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-650TX 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005


I have not chosen a heat sync or cooler yet because i would like to overclock but is it worth spending the extra money on the liquid cooling
 
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CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($323.80 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek GAIA SD1283 56.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V4900 1GB Video Card ($159.61 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $968.33
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-11 16:40 EDT-0400)

or the none OC build which i highly recommend more than the OC build because you get a better card and you do not really need OC anyways

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CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1220 V2 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($76.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V5800 1GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $992.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-11 16:42 EDT-0400)
 
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You might look into how the 8 core AMD CPUs run the software you will be using. It is one of those rare cases that someone might actually benefit from one of those. The money you would save could be redirected at improving video performance as well.
 
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Appreciate all the info, but i have around a $1700 budget so id like to get the best with that money. Is there a reason you downgraded other than to save money?
 
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Is my video performance Low?
 
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You can use i7 3820, and an Asus P9X79, an i7 3770K is not a work horse, also I'd go 64GB G.Skill 1600Mhz and a EVGA 670, please people don't push socket 1155 when socket 2011 is faster and can OC more! Socket 2011 also more of a future than 1155, Q3 the Ivy Bridge E is coming out for the socket 2011
 
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Not if you get that V5800.

You still might look into setups with more cores instead of single core efficiency though, because you will be using the exact software that benefits it. With your budget, dual opteron or dual xeon setups aren't out of reach. Those extra cores are going to be a big deal if you are using Autodesk Revit or something similar.

It would be worth it to see what hardware works best with the software you are using.
 
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Also, don't forget that socket 2011 supports quad channel memory, and memory bandwidth will matter in an application like this.
 
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So if i did the i7 3820 and overclock it and liquid cool would be better than the 3930k, The software i would be using would benefit more from having the 3930k
 
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The v5800 seems like a down grade for more money. pci 2.1? Even with keeping the motherboard as is?
 
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Ahh i didn't know your budget was so big lol. thought it would be around the $1000-1200 area because of some of the items you put inside there.

If you want to get the absolute best then yes the 2011 socket would be the best solution.
would i recommend it? no, simply because the fact that it is a very overpriced machine and the i7 3770k/xeon v2 will suit you fine.
As some of the others have said, AMD FX 8350 CPUs are mad crazy with price to performance for a workstation. You can get a pretty cheap rig with that CPU.

will redo my things to match what you want to use
 
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the 3820 is semi locked, you OC like the i5 3470(turbo OC) and the OC for the 3820 is very similar to that.
 
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The question can't be answered with the information at hand. A high end gaming board is certainly not helping you. I can't say whether the 3930k will help you w/o knowing the software you are using. If it's just AutoCAD, then no, I'd stick with a 3770k. Even AutoDesk's high end products won't use more than 8 cores unless you are looking for photo-realistic renderings. Same with RAM, 16GB is more than plenty for what I'd expect you'd tackle as a student....but again, large files w/ photo realistic rendering can eat up a lot of resources.

We have several boxes w/ 1st tier HD and "king of the hill" HD's and I can say w/o question that, in an AutoCAD production environment, there is no performance difference at all between the SSD / HD combo and the hybrid Seagate Momentus machine we have sitting on the next desk. Of course if you get into architectural rendering of H U G E files, that will not be the case. But again, if that's the case, you wouldn't be using a GeForce GFX card.

I would imagine that, since you are a student, you plan to use the same PC for entertainment. That being the case, I would expect that rendering of huge files is not on your radar and a GeForce card will do just fine.

I'd suggest looking at the "Balanced Price and Performance" System recommendations for AutoDesk Revit if that's what you expect to be using:

http://usa.autodesk.com/revit/system-requirements/

As for Case / PSU, this combo at $195 after $10 rebate is a "no brainer"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1201428






 
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this is purely an architectural computer and yes i do plan on rendering huge files in 3d modeling programs so what video cards should i be looking at?

Programs I will be using:
rhinoceros 5.0
autocad 2013
revit
grasshopper plugin for rhino
vray for renderings
and other plugins for rhino
 
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CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($323.80 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 90.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD4H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($164.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Arctic White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Tachyon 550W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1014.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-11 18:47 EDT-0400)

If you do not want to OC(recommended for this build to save money) grab the CPU and board on my other build

For GPU, if it is strictly work and very little games/none at all get one of these 2 cards
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195118
W7000

or

http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195119
W5000

If not go grab a 670/660 Ti to either save money or if you want to game
 
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I will need to run Dual Monitors
 
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I already have two hp 2311x monitors
 
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3770K is 20% less powerful than a 3820 and the socket 1155 is a dead end, and the memory quad channel on a socket 2011 is 40% faster than a socket 1155 using 1600Mhz DDR3 even with 4X4GB DIMMS The Asus P9X79 is very stable and can be bought for under $300 and is Ivy Bridge E compatible. You need to look down the road a little buy a socket 1155 and in 3 months it is a dead end but if you buy a socket 2011 it has 1 year left in the Intel cycle.
 
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