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Should i get the GTX 690/ TITAN or Crossfire 7970s?

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March 11, 2013 7:58:05 PM

I'm building a new gaming rig, I will be using an intel processor (probably the 3970x), water cooled, with 4X4GB of RAM, and a 2560x1440 monitor. Since I'm water cooling I will do a bit of overclocking. My biggest battle now is whether to buy a GTX TITAN or 690. Which is better for a single monitor gaming setup, and other GPU intensive applications like amatuer 3D modeling? Also for the same price I can also crossfire 7970s, which may or may not be a better choice. Thanks! :D 
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March 12, 2013 2:22:42 AM

GTX 690
GTX 690 is a internaly sli between GTX 680 grade gpus and with 4GB video Ram great for higher reslution. :) 
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March 12, 2013 9:04:57 AM

I'm in the same boat. I'm caught between SLI GTX 680 4GB Classifieds, a GTX TITAN (not very high on my list, since I see that it typically isn't as fast as a single GTX 690), a GTX 690, and CrossFire HD 7970s (although I don't think they offer the GHz ones at the Maingear site I'm ordering from).

imomun said that a GTX 690 has 4GB VRAM. Is this really true? I've heard that although it was has 4GB VRAM total, it only has 2GB usable VRAM, since it is essentially a dual-GPU card, and that each GTX 680 in the 690 has only 2GB VRAM. This is what's making me lean towards getting SLI GTX 680s with 4GB VRAM, instead of the 4GB total VRAM GTX 690, which only has 2GB VRAM per card, and therefore can only use 2GB essentially.

Does this make sense? Is it even worth putting up non-GHz CrossFire 7970s in this equation? They are a lot cheaper and come with six (!!!) free games, including BioShock Infinite, Crysis 3, and some other huge names. But I've heard that the CrossFire cards are not as smooth typically as NVIDIA cards. Plus, call me stupid, but I like the idea of being able to use the PhysX for games like Borderlands 2 and Batman: Arkham City, both of which I want eventually (although I could get them on other consoles I suppose).

A GTX TITAN sounds nice, but I heard it's not as nice as SLI GTX 680s or a single GTX 690. Thoughts?
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March 12, 2013 9:32:18 AM

Well it sure says 4GB GTX690
As i see SLI Titan > SLI 2xGTX 680 > xfire 2xHD7970
GTX690 > Titan
But a Single card solution is always better for gaming
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March 12, 2013 9:35:27 AM

echamberlin8 said:
I'm in the same boat. I'm caught between SLI GTX 680 4GB Classifieds, a GTX TITAN (not very high on my list, since I see that it typically isn't as fast as a single GTX 690), a GTX 690, and CrossFire HD 7970s (although I don't think they offer the GHz ones at the Maingear site I'm ordering from).

imomun said that a GTX 690 has 4GB VRAM. Is this really true? I've heard that although it was has 4GB VRAM total, it only has 2GB usable VRAM, since it is essentially a dual-GPU card, and that each GTX 680 in the 690 has only 2GB VRAM. This is what's making me lean towards getting SLI GTX 680s with 4GB VRAM, instead of the 4GB total VRAM GTX 690, which only has 2GB VRAM per card, and therefore can only use 2GB essentially.

Does this make sense? Is it even worth putting up non-GHz CrossFire 7970s in this equation? They are a lot cheaper and come with six (!!!) free games, including BioShock Infinite, Crysis 3, and some other huge names. But I've heard that the CrossFire cards are not as smooth typically as NVIDIA cards. Plus, call me stupid, but I like the idea of being able to use the PhysX for games like Borderlands 2 and Batman: Arkham City, both of which I want eventually (although I could get them on other consoles I suppose).

A GTX TITAN sounds nice, but I heard it's not as nice as SLI GTX 680s or a single GTX 690. Thoughts?


The GTX TITAN is a single Video card so you can run it in 3 way SLI maybe 4, you can only run GTX 690 in 2 way SLI.
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March 12, 2013 9:39:45 AM

imomun said:
Well it sure says 4GB GTX690
As i see SLI Titan > SLI 2xGTX 680 > xfire 2xHD7970
GTX690 > Titan
But a Single card solution is always better for gaming


Would you consider the GTX 690 to be a single-card solution? I'm curious why a single-card solution is better as well. And the disappointing part is that no single card (as far as I can tell) can run absolute max settings on the top games on a 1440p or higher display. Isn't that a little bit sad that a $1,000 video card isn't "good enough" these days? At least I think so. I would agree that SLI Titan is probably the best, and I wish I could afford it.
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March 12, 2013 11:52:23 AM

I would consider 690 a SLI solution but better because it saves you a PCIE slot and already comes balanced / optimized from nvidia. The truth as I seen people said when 680 came out that it was never meant to be a enthusiast level card rather it was a midlevel gtx660 card but amd couldn't offer a better card so nvidia released gtx 660 as 680! Now the titan we see perhaps was the actual 680 that has been released a year after with no competition from amd yet! Note how its still a kepler architecture, makes you wonder about those previous speculations, I would say those who wants a titan SLI performance in a single card HAVE TO WAIT FOR NEXT YEAR !
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March 12, 2013 12:47:21 PM

BigMack70 said:
IMO there's no ideal situation right now for 1440p

1) 2+ GTX Titan is the fastest but stupidly overpriced

2) 2x HD 7970GE is the fastest practical option at that resolution, but you will need to mess around with framerate limiters to keep it from stuttering

3) 2x GTX 680 4GB is just about as fast as 2x 7970 GE but more expensive and you can still get multi-GPU related issues

4) 1x GTX 690 / 2x GTX 680 worry me with only having 2GB vram and you can still get multi-GPU related issues

5) 1x GTX Titan has no issues or complications but it's the slowest of these options and quite overpriced.


You just gotta pick your poison. I'd say get 2x GTX Titan if money is no object, 2x HD 7970 GE if you don't mind a little troubleshooting and fiddling, 2x GTX 680 4GB otherwise.


This is actually very helpful, BigMack. I think, because I don't like troubleshooting/fiddling and am somewhat computer illiterate, and I can't afford a 2x Titan, I think I'm going with the 2xGTX 680 4GB. Seems like just about the fastest thing out there for 2 cards out of the box besides SLI Titans, and who can afford them?! Plus, I'm running only on one monitor, so that seems almost like overkill.

That is frustrating that there isn't any ideal solution for 1440p, as you said. I've been noticing that as of late. Titan doesn't seem to be fast enough to max out games in 1440p. The GTX 690 does seem like it can get close, but like you said, has low VRAM (they need to release this with 4GB 680s in it, IMO). I would do the 2xGTX 680 4GB in a heartbeat, but it's by far the most expensive out of these options (unfortunately). I also can't get the GHz editions of HD 7970s from Maingear, so I'm guessing that isn't even worth trying.

I hope dealing with the 2x GTX 680 4GBs won't be too tough for me to handle, because I don't have a huge amount of PC gaming experience (for instance, I have never OCed, never made my own computer, etc.). I'm sure it'll run decently out of the box, too. And that's a great amount of VRAM, IMO.

Thanks for your response as well, imomum. Do you think the GTX 690 is smooth as silk and almost completely avoids any SLI issues? I noticed you said it was optimized out of the box by NVIDIA.
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March 12, 2013 12:58:14 PM



I hope dealing with the 2x GTX 680 4GBs won't be too tough for me to handle, because I don't have a huge amount of PC gaming experience (for instance, I have never OCed, never made my own computer, etc.). I'm sure it'll run decently out of the box, too. And that's a great amount of VRAM, IMO.

Thanks for your response as well, imomum. Do you think the GTX 690 is smooth as silk and almost completely avoids any SLI issues? I noticed you said it was optimized out of the box by NVIDIA.
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I hope dealing with the 2x GTX 680 4GBs won't be too tough for me to handle, because I don't have a huge amount of PC gaming experience (for instance, I have never OCed, never made my own computer, etc.). I'm sure it'll run decently out of the box, too. And that's a great amount of VRAM, IMO.

Thanks for your response as well, imomum. Do you think the GTX 690 is smooth as silk and almost completely avoids any SLI issues? I noticed you said it was optimized out of the box by NVIDIA.




Well in benchmark the 690 certainly looks little little better and talk about memory apart from a game or two hardly any game at present can make use of 3GB buffer @ 1440p Also if video mem is filled than some memory support is there for video from the system memory. So even to this days a lot people hapily gaming on 1080p with 1GB video ram.

The following shows indeed the 690 could be slightly better in games due to nvidia optimization , even if its in driver level.








Now its on you, But eitherway your going to own a GFX monster PC for sure :) 

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March 12, 2013 1:04:02 PM

BigMack70 said:
I dunno where you got those graphs but they seem outdated...


Alright then, since i do not own neither of those I cant argue with you.

Whatever setup OP decides goodluck :) 
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March 12, 2013 1:04:16 PM

BigMack70 said:
echamberlin8 said:
BigMack70 said:
IMO there's no ideal situation right now for 1440p

1) 2+ GTX Titan is the fastest but stupidly overpriced

2) 2x HD 7970GE is the fastest practical option at that resolution, but you will need to mess around with framerate limiters to keep it from stuttering

3) 2x GTX 680 4GB is just about as fast as 2x 7970 GE but more expensive and you can still get multi-GPU related issues

4) 1x GTX 690 / 2x GTX 680 worry me with only having 2GB vram and you can still get multi-GPU related issues

5) 1x GTX Titan has no issues or complications but it's the slowest of these options and quite overpriced.


You just gotta pick your poison. I'd say get 2x GTX Titan if money is no object, 2x HD 7970 GE if you don't mind a little troubleshooting and fiddling, 2x GTX 680 4GB otherwise.


This is actually very helpful, BigMack. I think, because I don't like troubleshooting/fiddling and am somewhat computer illiterate, and I can't afford a 2x Titan, I think I'm going with the 2xGTX 680 4GB. Seems like just about the fastest thing out there for 2 cards out of the box besides SLI Titans, and who can afford them?! Plus, I'm running only on one monitor, so that seems almost like overkill.

That is frustrating that there isn't any ideal solution for 1440p, as you said. I've been noticing that as of late. Titan doesn't seem to be fast enough to max out games in 1440p. The GTX 690 does seem like it can get close, but like you said, has low VRAM (they need to release this with 4GB 680s in it, IMO). I would do the 2xGTX 680 4GB in a heartbeat, but it's by far the most expensive out of these options (unfortunately). I also can't get the GHz editions of HD 7970s from Maingear, so I'm guessing that isn't even worth trying.

I hope dealing with the 2x GTX 680 4GBs won't be too tough for me to handle, because I don't have a huge amount of PC gaming experience (for instance, I have never OCed, never made my own computer, etc.). I'm sure it'll run decently out of the box, too. And that's a great amount of VRAM, IMO.

Thanks for your response as well, imomum. Do you think the GTX 690 is smooth as silk and almost completely avoids any SLI issues? I noticed you said it was optimized out of the box by NVIDIA.


GTX 690 is just 680 SLI on a stick and downclocked. There's no secret-sauce optimizations going on there to make it perform any different from 680 SLI. It's a bit slower than 680 SLI because it's clocked lower, but that's it.

As for your first time build, just make sure your build is balanced (e.g. don't pair 680 SLI with a 5 year old CPU), make sure you get a high quality power supply with enough wattage for your needs (850W should do it I'm guessing) and make sure you get a motherboard that lets you have at least one slot of space between the cards so the top card can breathe.


Here's what I was planning to get (all through Maingear):

-Z77 chipset, Asus Maximus V Gene Featuring Lucid Virtu MVP, SupremeFX III Sound, CrossFire and SLI MOBO
-Intel Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz/3.9GHz Turbo 8MB L3 Cache HD 4000 processor (considered the X79 and 3930K [?] route, but it seemed so expensive)
-16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR3-1600 Extremely Low Latency 1.5V (4x4GB) memory
-256GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD SATA 6G (540MB/s Reads), 2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 64MB Cache SATA 6G hard drives
-I was going to get the 800W Corsair Gamer Series 80 Plus Certified PSU, since this is $87 cheaper than the 850 Watt Corsair AX850 80+ Gold Certified Modular Power Supply ROHS, but do you think it's a smarter idea to spend $87 on that extra 50 watts?
-6x Blu-ray Burner/8x Super Multi Combo with playback software
-Asus® SupremeFX III X-Fi THX TrueStudio Pro Premium Audio (onboard sound card--the audiophile option, the Asus Xonar Essence STX 2.1-channel ONLY PCI-E is...just that--only 2.1 sound, and I have Astro A50 headphones, so I want surround sound)
-Atheros® Killer™ 1103 802.11n MIMO 3-Antenna Wireless Accelerator wireless network adaptor
-AcoustiPack Ultimate Sound Dampening ($89)
-SilenX 15dB Fan Package (2x120mm, 2x80mm) ($69)

Sound okay?
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March 12, 2013 1:07:39 PM

Do you think there would be a difference on those FPS charts between 4GB SLI GTX 680s and 2GB SLI GTX 680s? Or does that not really affect FPS that much?

Ugh, such a tough decision. I must say, either of those sets of charts don't make the GTX Titan look that appealing on its own, although it's a good bit cheaper than a GTX 690 ($100 cheaper) through Maingear.
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March 12, 2013 8:07:05 PM

BigMack70 said:
There has been no performance advantage shown to 4GB 680s over 2GB 680s at 1440/1600p resolution to my knowledge. The extra $$ for the 4GB cards is purely for peace of mind about vram and not for performance. It's not a bad idea to get the 2GB cards if you want to save some cash, it's just for me personally something I wouldn't do for myself so I don't recommend it to others.

I would recommend an HX850 or AX850 unit from Corsair over the gamer series. The issue isn't available wattage; it's quality of the unit, and the HX/AX series PSUs are among the top tier of units on the market quality-wise. Better quality PSU = cleaner, more stable power = longer lasting components in your PC. You'll also save a buck or two on your electric bill from higher efficiency.

The only thing I'm curious about in your build is your motherboard - isn't the Maximus V Gene a mATX board with juts two PCI-e slots? You're going to need a pretty large mobo to accomodate a pair of GPUs + a sound card. Did you mean the Maximus V Extreme?


This is directly copied and pasted from the Maingear F131 customization page for the MOBO: Asus® Maximus V Gene Featuring Lucid Virtu MVP, SupremeFX III Sound, CrossFire and SLI. I am using its onboard sound card (which is the Asus SupremeFX III, which has 5.1 surround sound I believe [hopefully 7.1 sound?]), although you are given the option of adding a sound card to the MOBO. I don't know anything about the MOBO, frankly, but it's just the only one you can pick from when you're getting a Z77 Maingear F131. It's a very well-reviewed boutique computer, so I guess I trust them to not stick me with a shoddy MOBO.

I will take your word for it and go for the $87 more AX850W Corsair PSU. That is, unless I decided to go with a GTX Titan, which I don't think would require 850W at all, would it?

I see your point about the 2GB cards vs. the 4GB ones. I do hear there are a few things, like some Skyrim mods and a few other things, that take more than 2GB VRAM, so hearing stuff like that worries me. Of course, a GTX Titan has the most VRAM but is the slowest option. Ugh, why can't they just make a perfect card?! :fou: 

I've just decided to get back into PC gaming recently, and it amazes me that it's impossible to run some modern games without issues (at high definitions, obviously) using the highest-end GPUs available. Isn't that crazy? Maybe it's not for the world of PC gamers. Stuff like this, and the price of putting all this together, is enough to make me want to crawl back to console gaming.... It's so very confusing to keep up with the latest trends in PCs, and if you get sidetracked for a year or two, you're completely behind.

For example, I'm going to law school (hopefully) in the next year or two, and I'm sure I won't be able to keep up with all of the latest tech trends there, and by the time I graduate, I will be completely lost again. Such is technology I guess....
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March 12, 2013 8:31:29 PM

echamberlin8 said:
BigMack70 said:
There has been no performance advantage shown to 4GB 680s over 2GB 680s at 1440/1600p resolution to my knowledge. The extra $$ for the 4GB cards is purely for peace of mind about vram and not for performance. It's not a bad idea to get the 2GB cards if you want to save some cash, it's just for me personally something I wouldn't do for myself so I don't recommend it to others.

I would recommend an HX850 or AX850 unit from Corsair over the gamer series. The issue isn't available wattage; it's quality of the unit, and the HX/AX series PSUs are among the top tier of units on the market quality-wise. Better quality PSU = cleaner, more stable power = longer lasting components in your PC. You'll also save a buck or two on your electric bill from higher efficiency.

The only thing I'm curious about in your build is your motherboard - isn't the Maximus V Gene a mATX board with juts two PCI-e slots? You're going to need a pretty large mobo to accomodate a pair of GPUs + a sound card. Did you mean the Maximus V Extreme?


This is directly copied and pasted from the Maingear F131 customization page for the MOBO: Asus® Maximus V Gene Featuring Lucid Virtu MVP, SupremeFX III Sound, CrossFire and SLI. I am using its onboard sound card (which is the Asus SupremeFX III, which has 5.1 surround sound I believe [hopefully 7.1 sound?]), although you are given the option of adding a sound card to the MOBO. I don't know anything about the MOBO, frankly, but it's just the only one you can pick from when you're getting a Z77 Maingear F131. It's a very well-reviewed boutique computer, so I guess I trust them to not stick me with a shoddy MOBO.

I will take your word for it and go for the $87 more AX850W Corsair PSU. That is, unless I decided to go with a GTX Titan, which I don't think would require 850W at all, would it?

I see your point about the 2GB cards vs. the 4GB ones. I do hear there are a few things, like some Skyrim mods and a few other things, that take more than 2GB VRAM, so hearing stuff like that worries me. Of course, a GTX Titan has the most VRAM but is the slowest option. Ugh, why can't they just make a perfect card?! :fou: 

I've just decided to get back into PC gaming recently, and it amazes me that it's impossible to run some modern games without issues (at high definitions, obviously) using the highest-end GPUs available. Isn't that crazy? Maybe it's not for the world of PC gamers. Stuff like this, and the price of putting all this together, is enough to make me want to crawl back to console gaming.... It's so very confusing to keep up with the latest trends in PCs, and if you get sidetracked for a year or two, you're completely behind.

For example, I'm going to law school (hopefully) in the next year or two, and I'm sure I won't be able to keep up with all of the latest tech trends there, and by the time I graduate, I will be completely lost again. Such is technology I guess....


It brings my piss to a boil. Also the second dilemma is that if I was to by the titan, I'd get the hydro copper. EVGA is dumb and discontinues their hydro copper products quickly (actually for good reason, it just sucks for me). So ultimately if I wanted to go SLI with the titans, I'm gonna need to buy two to four now. >:( . However of money is not an issue, the best graphics setup now is a 4-way titan SLI rig. Unmatched. Senior year is likely the worst year in your gaming life. You have a bunch of freetime to play games, but no money to buy any. Anyway, go with the 4 gigs if you can. No one ever said you can have too much RAM ;) . I guess PC gaming gives you more fun for more work.
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March 13, 2013 7:11:33 AM

ShindoSensei said:
echamberlin8 said:
BigMack70 said:
There has been no performance advantage shown to 4GB 680s over 2GB 680s at 1440/1600p resolution to my knowledge. The extra $$ for the 4GB cards is purely for peace of mind about vram and not for performance. It's not a bad idea to get the 2GB cards if you want to save some cash, it's just for me personally something I wouldn't do for myself so I don't recommend it to others.

I would recommend an HX850 or AX850 unit from Corsair over the gamer series. The issue isn't available wattage; it's quality of the unit, and the HX/AX series PSUs are among the top tier of units on the market quality-wise. Better quality PSU = cleaner, more stable power = longer lasting components in your PC. You'll also save a buck or two on your electric bill from higher efficiency.

The only thing I'm curious about in your build is your motherboard - isn't the Maximus V Gene a mATX board with juts two PCI-e slots? You're going to need a pretty large mobo to accomodate a pair of GPUs + a sound card. Did you mean the Maximus V Extreme?


This is directly copied and pasted from the Maingear F131 customization page for the MOBO: Asus® Maximus V Gene Featuring Lucid Virtu MVP, SupremeFX III Sound, CrossFire and SLI. I am using its onboard sound card (which is the Asus SupremeFX III, which has 5.1 surround sound I believe [hopefully 7.1 sound?]), although you are given the option of adding a sound card to the MOBO. I don't know anything about the MOBO, frankly, but it's just the only one you can pick from when you're getting a Z77 Maingear F131. It's a very well-reviewed boutique computer, so I guess I trust them to not stick me with a shoddy MOBO.

I will take your word for it and go for the $87 more AX850W Corsair PSU. That is, unless I decided to go with a GTX Titan, which I don't think would require 850W at all, would it?

I see your point about the 2GB cards vs. the 4GB ones. I do hear there are a few things, like some Skyrim mods and a few other things, that take more than 2GB VRAM, so hearing stuff like that worries me. Of course, a GTX Titan has the most VRAM but is the slowest option. Ugh, why can't they just make a perfect card?! :fou: 

I've just decided to get back into PC gaming recently, and it amazes me that it's impossible to run some modern games without issues (at high definitions, obviously) using the highest-end GPUs available. Isn't that crazy? Maybe it's not for the world of PC gamers. Stuff like this, and the price of putting all this together, is enough to make me want to crawl back to console gaming.... It's so very confusing to keep up with the latest trends in PCs, and if you get sidetracked for a year or two, you're completely behind.

For example, I'm going to law school (hopefully) in the next year or two, and I'm sure I won't be able to keep up with all of the latest tech trends there, and by the time I graduate, I will be completely lost again. Such is technology I guess....


It brings my piss to a boil. Also the second dilemma is that if I was to by the titan, I'd get the hydro copper. EVGA is dumb and discontinues their hydro copper products quickly (actually for good reason, it just sucks for me). So ultimately if I wanted to go SLI with the titans, I'm gonna need to buy two to four now. >:( . However of money is not an issue, the best graphics setup now is a 4-way titan SLI rig. Unmatched. Senior year is likely the worst year in your gaming life. You have a bunch of freetime to play games, but no money to buy any. Anyway, go with the 4 gigs if you can. No one ever said you can have too much RAM ;) . I guess PC gaming gives you more fun for more work.


I agree that an SLI Titan set-up is ideal. Hell, I'd just take 2 Titans, but the cost is quite outrageous. On the Maingear F131 set-up, it costs about $890 for a single Titan, which seems to be cheaper than the normal price, but it's $2,100 or so for dual ones. That's just way out of my budget. I've been reading so many iffy things about SLI lately that it makes me question whether I should get the SLI GTX 680 4GB Classifieds, but then again, they are the fastest option by a good bit (although they're $1,200, or close to it, which is pretty pricy).

You sound like you're getting a pretty damn nice computer, ShindoSensei. What kind of monitor are you getting? I just got a Dell U2713HM 2560x1440 monitor, although I'm waiting for my new F131 to come before I set it up. At the moment, my home computer is quite old (it was custom-built by a gamer-friend maybe back in 2009 or 2010): AMD 4850e graphics card, something like a AMD 9850 quad-core processor, and I think 2GB RAM. So I don't want to spoil the nice monitor by playing it on that screen before I get the new set-up.

I'm curious what your decision will be between the GTX Titan and the GTX 690. You ever consider SLI GTX 680s or 670s? I think it's cheaper to get 2GB SLI GTX 680s than a GTX 690, isn't it?
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March 14, 2013 9:38:37 AM

echamberlin8 said:
ShindoSensei said:
echamberlin8 said:
BigMack70 said:
There has been no performance advantage shown to 4GB 680s over 2GB 680s at 1440/1600p resolution to my knowledge. The extra $$ for the 4GB cards is purely for peace of mind about vram and not for performance. It's not a bad idea to get the 2GB cards if you want to save some cash, it's just for me personally something I wouldn't do for myself so I don't recommend it to others.

I would recommend an HX850 or AX850 unit from Corsair over the gamer series. The issue isn't available wattage; it's quality of the unit, and the HX/AX series PSUs are among the top tier of units on the market quality-wise. Better quality PSU = cleaner, more stable power = longer lasting components in your PC. You'll also save a buck or two on your electric bill from higher efficiency.

The only thing I'm curious about in your build is your motherboard - isn't the Maximus V Gene a mATX board with juts two PCI-e slots? You're going to need a pretty large mobo to accomodate a pair of GPUs + a sound card. Did you mean the Maximus V Extreme?


This is directly copied and pasted from the Maingear F131 customization page for the MOBO: Asus® Maximus V Gene Featuring Lucid Virtu MVP, SupremeFX III Sound, CrossFire and SLI. I am using its onboard sound card (which is the Asus SupremeFX III, which has 5.1 surround sound I believe [hopefully 7.1 sound?]), although you are given the option of adding a sound card to the MOBO. I don't know anything about the MOBO, frankly, but it's just the only one you can pick from when you're getting a Z77 Maingear F131. It's a very well-reviewed boutique computer, so I guess I trust them to not stick me with a shoddy MOBO.

I will take your word for it and go for the $87 more AX850W Corsair PSU. That is, unless I decided to go with a GTX Titan, which I don't think would require 850W at all, would it?

I see your point about the 2GB cards vs. the 4GB ones. I do hear there are a few things, like some Skyrim mods and a few other things, that take more than 2GB VRAM, so hearing stuff like that worries me. Of course, a GTX Titan has the most VRAM but is the slowest option. Ugh, why can't they just make a perfect card?! :fou: 

I've just decided to get back into PC gaming recently, and it amazes me that it's impossible to run some modern games without issues (at high definitions, obviously) using the highest-end GPUs available. Isn't that crazy? Maybe it's not for the world of PC gamers. Stuff like this, and the price of putting all this together, is enough to make me want to crawl back to console gaming.... It's so very confusing to keep up with the latest trends in PCs, and if you get sidetracked for a year or two, you're completely behind.

For example, I'm going to law school (hopefully) in the next year or two, and I'm sure I won't be able to keep up with all of the latest tech trends there, and by the time I graduate, I will be completely lost again. Such is technology I guess....


It brings my piss to a boil. Also the second dilemma is that if I was to by the titan, I'd get the hydro copper. EVGA is dumb and discontinues their hydro copper products quickly (actually for good reason, it just sucks for me). So ultimately if I wanted to go SLI with the titans, I'm gonna need to buy two to four now. >:( . However of money is not an issue, the best graphics setup now is a 4-way titan SLI rig. Unmatched. Senior year is likely the worst year in your gaming life. You have a bunch of freetime to play games, but no money to buy any. Anyway, go with the 4 gigs if you can. No one ever said you can have too much RAM ;) . I guess PC gaming gives you more fun for more work.


I agree that an SLI Titan set-up is ideal. Hell, I'd just take 2 Titans, but the cost is quite outrageous. On the Maingear F131 set-up, it costs about $890 for a single Titan, which seems to be cheaper than the normal price, but it's $2,100 or so for dual ones. That's just way out of my budget. I've been reading so many iffy things about SLI lately that it makes me question whether I should get the SLI GTX 680 4GB Classifieds, but then again, they are the fastest option by a good bit (although they're $1,200, or close to it, which is pretty pricy).

You sound like you're getting a pretty damn nice computer, ShindoSensei. What kind of monitor are you getting? I just got a Dell U2713HM 2560x1440 monitor, although I'm waiting for my new F131 to come before I set it up. At the moment, my home computer is quite old (it was custom-built by a gamer-friend maybe back in 2009 or 2010): AMD 4850e graphics card, something like a AMD 9850 quad-core processor, and I think 2GB RAM. So I don't want to spoil the nice monitor by playing it on that screen before I get the new set-up.

I'm curious what your decision will be between the GTX Titan and the GTX 690. You ever consider SLI GTX 680s or 670s? I think it's cheaper to get 2GB SLI GTX 680s than a GTX 690, isn't it?


It can save you a few backs, but when it comes down to it it really depends on your vendor. The only big chain place near me is Fry's Electronics, which for the record isn't bad at all. My middle school my middle school math teacher owns a computer build, repair, and mod store; which he was generous enough to let me work for him and in return he gave me deals and even some free stuff. Comparing the 2gb vs the 4gb you it seems to be more or less a hundred dollar difference. As for my monitor, my dad has a 2560x1xxx (not sure if 1600 or 1440, it was a bit wide so i'm guessing 1440) samsung monitor, not sure what the exact model is, in his office. I could steal that from him, but from what i'm guessing I might just go 1080 for now and in a few months or year i could SLI and get a good monitor. I currently have a gtx 570 (which i could use as my physX). Maybe instead of dishing out a huge load on the GPU, i'll spend that money for a better motherboard (ASRock Z77 Extreme11 looks amazing), as it is the only thing I can't upgrade, and get two 8 GB ram sticks. This way I can get a new 8GB each two or three months, and in the long run get one or two killer GPUs.
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If you go with a corsair ax 850 your going to be extremely disappointed, at 4.6 GHz my 3930k draws around 300 watts of power alone you should grab a single rail 1200 or 1500 if you really want to do an sli setup, I opted for a hx 1050 but it still gets hot and loud from just a 3930k, Gtx 680 and Gtx 650 physx cards, SBe is extremely power hungry make sure you get decent enough rads too I'm currently in the process of upgrading my case and water cooling gear to accommodate the heat this thing puts out it does much better overclocking with the vrms being cooled as well but slow 80 mm fans seem to do the job well enough
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