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I just bought a powercolor 2GB HDMI Ati Radeon HD 5450 and had before a built in darned video card that couldn't play the lowest games now My FPS on Crossfire NA was below 80 but no difference after buying the graphics card at All I installed the drivers

I have a doubt it's either my ram which is 1.5 GB or the whole motherboard or Computer since it's really old brand HP Compaq dc7600 Convertible Minitower
Please help I don't want my money to be in vein.
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  1. Are you saying you have two Radeon 5450s in a crossfire configuration?
  2. The 5450 is a very low end card. Not suitable for gaming. Its more of an HTPC card. And good job swearing in your first post title here on TH.
  3. How did you determine that an HD 5450 would be a huge step up from what you had, and how did you determine that it was your video card that was the cause of the slow down? Lastly, why do you care if you get more than 80FPS?
  4. My guess is the fact that the system is so old you won't see any improvements. Looks like a single core cpu and hardly no ram at all.
  5. Not following here
    I have that on my desktop itself,as when I go to Properties Settings there are two Radeon Ati configs

    What I meant was that I had an Intel built in Graphics chipset family
    Now when I bought that Radeon Its FPS is just the same
  6. Traciatim said:
    How did you determine that an HD 5450 would be a huge step up from what you had, and how did you determine that it was your video card that was the cause of the slow down? Lastly, why do you care if you get more than 80FPS?


    First: It reaches 20 and Freezes alot Second: It's my graphics that really suck
  7. christop said:
    My guess is the fact that the system is so old you won't see any improvements. Looks like a single core cpu and hardly no ram at all.


    So you're saying I have no choice but to buy a new Desktop?
    Please,Anything? My ram..processor,if changed could it improve?
  8. Even though the 5450 specification suggest 2-way crossfire is supported, I don't see any cards for sale out there that allow crossfire.

    Did you add the 5450 to your system on which you were using integrated graphics prior?

    A 5450 is not going to give you great gaming performance whatsoever, but it may play videos a little more smoothly than an old integrated graphics solution.

    And it's not just your lack of RAM, but your architecture, in general, that's going to slow everything down on the P4 system. If you want to game with modern titles, it's definitely time for you to upgrade.
  9. Sorry I'm real new to this though I thought I'm experienced x]
    Before this I only had the built in graphics card from Intel
  10. It shows two for two outputs of the card, not crossfire, just the way the card shows. Sounds like you didn't install the drivers yet for your card and you're running off the built-in drivers, so go to amd.com and download the drivers.
  11. I'm not following this. You say you have a Crossfire setup but it sounds like you upgraded to a dedicated GPU from Intel integrated graphics? If you're using just one GPU, that ain't Crossfire (and no, your Intel GPU doesn't count as a second one).

    What resolution are you playing at to get 80fps? I'd be happy with that...I play BF3 at 60fps and it does me. But as said above, a 5450 isn't a good gaming card so you shouldn't expect much in the way of performance. Something like a 7770 would be better, although your system is quite aged...it will likely limit the performance gain any new GPU would give you.
  12. getochkn said:
    It shows two for two outputs of the card, not crossfire, just the way the card shows. Sounds like you didn't install the drivers yet for your card and you're running off the built-in drivers, so go to amd.com and download the drivers.


    Windows downloaded it for me off the Driver CD.but I definately will try the site itself ty
  13. I'm a bit confused. Are you saying you bought a new Radeon HD 5450?
    This is a fairly low end card so won't hold up to any serious gaming.

    The minimum specs for Crossfire NA are a Geforce 5600 and recommended is Geforce 6600 (or equivalent)


    http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+5450
  14. diellur said:
    I'm not following this. You say you have a Crossfire setup but it sounds like you upgraded to a dedicated GPU from Intel integrated graphics? If you're using just one GPU, that ain't Crossfire (and no, your Intel GPU doesn't count as a second one).

    What resolution are you playing at to get 80fps? I'd be happy with that...I play BF3 at 60fps and it does me. But as said above, a 5450 isn't a good gaming card so you shouldn't expect much in the way of performance. Something like a 7770 would be better, although your system is quite aged...it will likely limit the performance gain any new GPU would give you.


    omg I think you all got me wrong xDD Crossfire is an online fps game :D
  15. I should have made my question clear lol sorry !!
  16. Youssef59 said:
    christop said:
    My guess is the fact that the system is so old you won't see any improvements. Looks like a single core cpu and hardly no ram at all.


    So you're saying I have no choice but to buy a new Desktop?
    Please,Anything? My ram..processor,if changed could it improve?

    If you change out your motherboard to at least an H61, H67, z68 or z77, processor to at least a i3-2100 and pick up at least two sticks of 2x2GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM, you'd see very little difference unless you also upgraded the video card to a radeon 7850 or radeon 7870. At that point, you're pretty much looking at redoing the whole thing because you'd also have to consider replacing the power supply that came with the HP and so on...

    I know it's not good news, but sorry to say it's the truth.
  17. ubercake said:
    Youssef59 said:
    christop said:
    My guess is the fact that the system is so old you won't see any improvements. Looks like a single core cpu and hardly no ram at all.


    So you're saying I have no choice but to buy a new Desktop?
    Please,Anything? My ram..processor,if changed could it improve?

    If you change out your motherboard to at least an H61, H67, z68 or z77, processor to at least a i3-2100 and pick up at least two sticks of 2x2GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM, you'd see very little difference unless you also upgraded the video card to a radeon 7850 or radeon 7870. At that point, you're pretty much looking at redoing the whole thing because you'd also have to consider replacing the power supply that came with the HP and so on...

    I know it's not good news, but sorry to say it's the truth.

    Look I don't really need the best gaming just a better way of it since I couldn't play games like Tomb Raider Anniversary Medal Of Honor and games that don't even need a graphics card

    My problem is my pc doesn't seem to recognize the card even though in Device Manager it's read
    PC's age might have that effect
  18. Youssef59 said:
    ubercake said:
    Youssef59 said:
    christop said:
    My guess is the fact that the system is so old you won't see any improvements. Looks like a single core cpu and hardly no ram at all.


    So you're saying I have no choice but to buy a new Desktop?
    Please,Anything? My ram..processor,if changed could it improve?

    If you change out your motherboard to at least an H61, H67, z68 or z77, processor to at least a i3-2100 and pick up at least two sticks of 2x2GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM, you'd see very little difference unless you also upgraded the video card to a radeon 7850 or radeon 7870. At that point, you're pretty much looking at redoing the whole thing because you'd also have to consider replacing the power supply that came with the HP and so on...

    I know it's not good news, but sorry to say it's the truth.

    Look I don't really need the best gaming just a better way of it since I couldn't play games like Tomb Raider Anniversary Medal Of Honor and games that don't even need a graphics card

    My problem is my pc doesn't seem to recognize the card even though in Device Manager it's read
    PC's age might have that effect

    The more info you provide, the better we can help.

    Those games needed a graphics card when I played them. I think I used an AGP 8x ATI Radeon 9700 Pro when the medal of honor games came out.

    Could be because your system uses PCIe 1.0 spec. This is half the bandwidth of PCI 2 on whose specification the 5450 was built. Theoretically, PCIe devices are backward compatible, but can only operate with the available bandwidth.

    Are you plugging the monitor into your new card or leaving it plugged into the motherboard?
  19. It's into the new card yet I don't feel like it lol
    Should be Big difference from 128MB to 2 GB
  20. Youssef59 said:
    I just bought a powercolor 2GB HDMI Ati Radeon HD 5450 and had before a built in darned video card that couldn't play the lowest games now My FPS on Crossfire NA was below 80 but no difference after buying the graphics card at All I installed the drivers

    I have a doubt it's either my ram which is 1.5 GB or the whole motherboard or Computer since it's really old brand HP Compaq dc7600 Convertible Minitower
    Please help I don't want my money to be in vein.
    Youssef59
    I also play Crossfire online and my suggestion would be to get more ram ,your cpu is just O.K. the 5450 im not sure about ,but sounds like you're getting playable fram rates. Just add more ram.
  21. RAM really isn't the differentiator when it comes to performance. You can't really compare the Radeon 5450 with 2GB to a GTX 670 with 2GB because the number of processors and the method of processing is entirely what sets one apart from the other.

    I would say the 5450 is a graphics card you might choose if you didn't have an integrated solution.
  22. I meant the graphics card not the ram the older graphics card was 128 while this is 2GB

    Oh another problem just landed
    I removed Radeon and it was really hot I did this because it kept giving my screen coloured lines everywhere and I think that might be a real issue
  23. Youssef59 said:
    I meant the graphics card not the ram the older graphics card was 128 while this is 2GB

    Oh another problem just landed
    I removed Radeon and it was really hot I did this because it kept giving my screen coloured lines everywhere and I think that might be a real issue


    Sounds like your having problems and the 5450 might be the problem.
    Iv'e played CF on a acer aspire 150 netbook, single cpu ,2 threads ,onboard graphics gma945? , 1gig of ram, it played actually very well ,my fps were about 30-45 fps and was suprisingly playable . Any lags I had were due to not enough ram. Oh and I had to have an ethernet cord (100mb/s) plugged into the netbook .
  24. ryder57 said:
    Youssef59 said:
    I meant the graphics card not the ram the older graphics card was 128 while this is 2GB

    Oh another problem just landed
    I removed Radeon and it was really hot I did this because it kept giving my screen coloured lines everywhere and I think that might be a real issue


    Sounds like your having problems and the 5450 might be the problem.
    Iv'e played CF on a acer aspire 150 netbook, single cpu ,2 threads ,onboard graphics gma945? , 1gig of ram, it played actually very well ,my fps were about 30-45 fps and was suprisingly playable . Any lags I had were due to not enough ram. Oh and I had to have an ethernet cord (100mb/s) plugged into the netbook .


    Your point as I managed to understand is that FPS doesn't have to do with the Game Quality and Performance??? :D Hope that's the thing lol xDD
  25. Best answer
    Youssef59 said:
    ryder57 said:
    Youssef59 said:
    I meant the graphics card not the ram the older graphics card was 128 while this is 2GB

    Oh another problem just landed
    I removed Radeon and it was really hot I did this because it kept giving my screen coloured lines everywhere and I think that might be a real issue


    Sounds like your having problems and the 5450 might be the problem.
    Iv'e played CF on a acer aspire 150 netbook, single cpu ,2 threads ,onboard graphics gma945? , 1gig of ram, it played actually very well ,my fps were about 30-45 fps and was suprisingly playable . Any lags I had were due to not enough ram. Oh and I had to have an ethernet cord (100mb/s) plugged into the netbook .


    Your point as I managed to understand is that FPS doesn't have to do with the Game Quality and Performance??? :D Hope that's the thing lol xDD


    What I'm saying is , you seem to be having problems with your 5450 ,such as you mentioned above with what sounds like screen artifacting or tearing and the card is hot to the touch? That could be the reason your not seeing any performance in fps during the game.
    1.5 gigs of ram is barely passible these days so bumping up to say 2-4 gigs surely can't hurt your computing experinceis , that was what I was trying to get at ,sorry for being long winded and unclear.
  26. ryder57 said:
    Youssef59 said:
    ryder57 said:
    Youssef59 said:
    I meant the graphics card not the ram the older graphics card was 128 while this is 2GB

    Oh another problem just landed
    I removed Radeon and it was really hot I did this because it kept giving my screen coloured lines everywhere and I think that might be a real issue


    Sounds like your having problems and the 5450 might be the problem.
    Iv'e played CF on a acer aspire 150 netbook, single cpu ,2 threads ,onboard graphics gma945? , 1gig of ram, it played actually very well ,my fps were about 30-45 fps and was suprisingly playable . Any lags I had were due to not enough ram. Oh and I had to have an ethernet cord (100mb/s) plugged into the netbook .


    Your point as I managed to understand is that FPS doesn't have to do with the Game Quality and Performance??? :D Hope that's the thing lol xDD


    What I'm saying is , you seem to be having problems with your 5450 ,such as you mentioned above with what sounds like screen artifacting or tearing and the card is hot to the touch? That could be the reason your not seeing any performance in fps during the game.
    1.5 gigs of ram is barely passible these days so bumping up to say 2-4 gigs surely can't hurt your computing experinceis , that was what I was trying to get at ,sorry for being long winded and unclear.

    Trust me you did fine and I thank you more than alot it's me who has that thing in understanding xDD everything has to be step-by-step to me :P
  27. Youssef59 said:
    ryder57 said:
    Youssef59 said:
    ryder57 said:
    Youssef59 said:
    I meant the graphics card not the ram the older graphics card was 128 while this is 2GB

    Oh another problem just landed
    I removed Radeon and it was really hot I did this because it kept giving my screen coloured lines everywhere and I think that might be a real issue

    Sounds like your having problems and the 5450 might be the problem.
    Iv'e played CF on a acer aspire 150 netbook, single cpu ,2 threads ,onboard graphics gma945? , 1gig of ram, it played actually very well ,my fps were about 30-45 fps and was suprisingly playable . Any lags I had were due to not enough ram. Oh and I had to have an ethernet cord (100mb/s) plugged into the netbook .


    Your point as I managed to understand is that FPS doesn't have to do with the Game Quality and Performance??? :D Hope that's the thing lol xDD


    What I'm saying is , you seem to be having problems with your 5450 ,such as you mentioned above with what sounds like screen artifacting or tearing and the card is hot to the touch? That could be the reason your not seeing any performance in fps during the game.
    1.5 gigs of ram is barely passible these days so bumping up to say 2-4 gigs surely can't hurt your computing experinceis , that was what I was trying to get at ,sorry for being long winded and unclear.

    Trust me you did fine and I thank you more than alot it's me who has that thing in understanding xDD everything has to be step-by-step to me :P

    No problem me as well , just thought you might be interested in these specs from CF,
    Recommened requirments for playing CF
    CPU - Pentium 4 - 2 GHz
    Ram memory - 1 Gigabyte
    Video Card - GeForce 6600 or better
    HDD - 1.7 gig avalible
    System - Windows XP Windows VISTA Windows 7
    Direct X - Version 9c or later
    Internet conection - Cable / DSL or better
  28. ryder57 said:
    Youssef59 said:
    ryder57 said:
    Youssef59 said:
    ryder57 said:
    Youssef59 said:
    I meant the graphics card not the ram the older graphics card was 128 while this is 2GB

    Oh another problem just landed
    I removed Radeon and it was really hot I did this because it kept giving my screen coloured lines everywhere and I think that might be a real issue

    Sounds like your having problems and the 5450 might be the problem.
    Iv'e played CF on a acer aspire 150 netbook, single cpu ,2 threads ,onboard graphics gma945? , 1gig of ram, it played actually very well ,my fps were about 30-45 fps and was suprisingly playable . Any lags I had were due to not enough ram. Oh and I had to have an ethernet cord (100mb/s) plugged into the netbook .


    Your point as I managed to understand is that FPS doesn't have to do with the Game Quality and Performance??? :D Hope that's the thing lol xDD


    What I'm saying is , you seem to be having problems with your 5450 ,such as you mentioned above with what sounds like screen artifacting or tearing and the card is hot to the touch? That could be the reason your not seeing any performance in fps during the game.
    1.5 gigs of ram is barely passible these days so bumping up to say 2-4 gigs surely can't hurt your computing experinceis , that was what I was trying to get at ,sorry for being long winded and unclear.

    Trust me you did fine and I thank you more than alot it's me who has that thing in understanding xDD everything has to be step-by-step to me :P

    No problem me as well , just thought you might be interested in these specs from CF,
    Recommened requirments for playing CF
    CPU - Pentium 4 - 2 GHz
    Ram memory - 1 Gigabyte
    Video Card - GeForce 6600 or better
    HDD - 1.7 gig avalible
    System - Windows XP Windows VISTA Windows 7
    Direct X - Version 9c or later
    Internet conection - Cable / DSL or better


    Yup it's the graphics card -.- that one definately isn't enough for my pc or is incompatible somehow though it fits in

    Omg I really don't know what to do
  29. Youssef59 said:
    ryder57 said:
    Youssef59 said:
    ryder57 said:
    Youssef59 said:
    ryder57 said:
    Youssef59 said:
    I meant the graphics card not the ram the older graphics card was 128 while this is 2GB

    Oh another problem just landed
    I removed Radeon and it was really hot I did this because it kept giving my screen coloured lines everywhere and I think that might be a real issue

    Sounds like your having problems and the 5450 might be the problem.
    Iv'e played CF on a acer aspire 150 netbook, single cpu ,2 threads ,onboard graphics gma945? , 1gig of ram, it played actually very well ,my fps were about 30-45 fps and was suprisingly playable . Any lags I had were due to not enough ram. Oh and I had to have an ethernet cord (100mb/s) plugged into the netbook .


    Your point as I managed to understand is that FPS doesn't have to do with the Game Quality and Performance??? :D Hope that's the thing lol xDD


    What I'm saying is , you seem to be having problems with your 5450 ,such as you mentioned above with what sounds like screen artifacting or tearing and the card is hot to the touch? That could be the reason your not seeing any performance in fps during the game.
    1.5 gigs of ram is barely passible these days so bumping up to say 2-4 gigs surely can't hurt your computing experinceis , that was what I was trying to get at ,sorry for being long winded and unclear.

    Trust me you did fine and I thank you more than alot it's me who has that thing in understanding xDD everything has to be step-by-step to me :P

    No problem me as well , just thought you might be interested in these specs from CF,
    Recommened requirments for playing CF
    CPU - Pentium 4 - 2 GHz
    Ram memory - 1 Gigabyte
    Video Card - GeForce 6600 or better
    HDD - 1.7 gig avalible
    System - Windows XP Windows VISTA Windows 7
    Direct X - Version 9c or later
    Internet conection - Cable / DSL or better


    Yup it's the graphics card -.- that one definately isn't enough for my pc or is incompatible somehow though it fits in

    Omg I really don't know what to do

    If I were you, I would post a question on the graphics card thread and see if anyone can help you with your graphics card problem.When you do ,you should give as many FACTS and SPECIFICATIONS as possible.
    SUCH AS :
    What kind of cpu
    gpu
    power supply
    ram
    model number of your computer etc.
    I think that your problem in CF anyway is that your gpu (graphics card) isn't working properly,that could be because you have onboard graphics (on your motherboard) and their is some sort of conflict or your gpu isn't working properly.I don't have enough expertise in computers to help you with the gpu problem. The good news is your in the right place for the help u need ,just post a new question
    in the gpu section , alright. Plus put more ram in your computer you will see a difference in gameplay.
    Hope this helps you .
    PS. sure would like to know what is wrong with your graphics card
    keep me informed ,good luck man.
  30. ryder57 said:
    Youssef59 said:
    ryder57 said:
    Youssef59 said:
    ryder57 said:
    Youssef59 said:
    ryder57 said:
    Youssef59 said:
    I meant the graphics card not the ram the older graphics card was 128 while this is 2GB

    Oh another problem just landed
    I removed Radeon and it was really hot I did this because it kept giving my screen coloured lines everywhere and I think that might be a real issue

    Sounds like your having problems and the 5450 might be the problem.
    Iv'e played CF on a acer aspire 150 netbook, single cpu ,2 threads ,onboard graphics gma945? , 1gig of ram, it played actually very well ,my fps were about 30-45 fps and was suprisingly playable . Any lags I had were due to not enough ram. Oh and I had to have an ethernet cord (100mb/s) plugged into the netbook .


    Your point as I managed to understand is that FPS doesn't have to do with the Game Quality and Performance??? :D Hope that's the thing lol xDD


    What I'm saying is , you seem to be having problems with your 5450 ,such as you mentioned above with what sounds like screen artifacting or tearing and the card is hot to the touch? That could be the reason your not seeing any performance in fps during the game.
    1.5 gigs of ram is barely passible these days so bumping up to say 2-4 gigs surely can't hurt your computing experinceis , that was what I was trying to get at ,sorry for being long winded and unclear.

    Trust me you did fine and I thank you more than alot it's me who has that thing in understanding xDD everything has to be step-by-step to me :P

    No problem me as well , just thought you might be interested in these specs from CF,
    Recommened requirments for playing CF
    CPU - Pentium 4 - 2 GHz
    Ram memory - 1 Gigabyte
    Video Card - GeForce 6600 or better
    HDD - 1.7 gig avalible
    System - Windows XP Windows VISTA Windows 7
    Direct X - Version 9c or later
    Internet conection - Cable / DSL or better


    Yup it's the graphics card -.- that one definately isn't enough for my pc or is incompatible somehow though it fits in

    Omg I really don't know what to do

    If I were you, I would post a question on the graphics card thread and see if anyone can help you with your graphics card problem.When you do ,you should give as many FACTS and SPECIFICATIONS as possible.
    SUCH AS :
    What kind of cpu
    gpu
    power supply
    ram
    model number of your computer etc.
    I think that your problem in CF anyway is that your gpu (graphics card) isn't working properly,that could be because you have onboard graphics (on your motherboard) and their is some sort of conflict or your gpu isn't working properly.I don't have enough expertise in computers to help you with the gpu problem. The good news is your in the right place for the help u need ,just post a new question
    in the gpu section , alright. Plus put more ram in your computer you will see a difference in gameplay.
    Hope this helps you .
    PS. sure would like to know what is wrong with your graphics card
    keep me informed ,good luck man.


    Thanks a whole lot ^^ I will
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