Samsung SataII with faulty sectors.

daskallu

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Hello I recently discovered some problems with a 200gb Samsung Sata2 HDD. Until now I had 50gb worth of space for WinXP and the rest for Kit folder and games worth 40gb.

A week ago, or so, I installed many new games, like Tomb Raider and Far Cry 3, and the disk got filled nearly to the end, with 30gb of free space left out of 139gb total. This is when the problems started.

Yesterday while starting up World of Tanks, the HDD started doing clicking noises, like when you're nervous and click the tip, in and out, of a pen. Or like when a train runs over sections of a track were 2 parts combine. It's not a spinup/down sound like an older HDD that died did on me.

Hd tune 5 smart info shows a warning at re-calibration tries, but the count does not go up anymore, making me think this was a past problem. However, using this program with error scan, the hdd starts clicking at the back of the drive, around cylinder 19000 and until the end, at cylinder 24100ish.

I used another program from Hiren BootCD, disk genius, and testing with that one showed some cylinders at 1000 to 2000ms reading latency, up from the usual 200-300ms. So i isolated 100, between 20400 and 20500, faulty cylinders and used the same program to fix them. All of the 100 now read at 200-300ms , only one is left at 900ms.

Now I've booted into minixp to clean the drive and format it completly, and running a Victoria scan, showed a multitude of orange 600ms+ cylinders, even from the start of the disk. They're not concentrated in any areas, and I've only kept the test running for a few minutes, but they are definetly showing up at a regular pace.

Also, yesterday, formating the D: partition, the one with kits and games, using roadkill diskwipe and writting zeros, resulted in 10 or 100 million errors (i can't remember exactly sorry) at the end, when formating was done. But i do not know what this means as no log file was left.

So, in the end, should I attempt to fix those 600+ ms sectors of the HDD? If the clicking sounds don't go away after this, I can also make a partition using those bad areas and leave it the hidden. I don't mind loosing 10gb worth of space in one go, I do my storage on an older, IDE drive.

What about the power on count, it's about 25000 hours (9000 start ups), meaning around 2.9 years. Is this near the end of this samsung drive? The older IDE drive is much older, and now at 55% victoria scan, showes just 1 600ms+ sector.
 
Since you're experiencing mechanical issues, I would definitely look at replacing that Samsung drive while you can still access the data through the OS. Is it still under warranty?

Get a new drive some disk imaging software. Copy the image of the old drive to a new drive. Then remove the old drive and plug the new drive into the same port where the old drive once was.
 

Feldmarschall

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Hello.

Clicking sound means that cluster is unreadable. I've had lot of HDD's with this problem. I am always using HDD regenerator because it's shown best form my experience and it's cheap also. When running some kind of software which is demagnetizing sectors to repair you should run them 3-4 consecutive times. Couple gigs of bad sectors can't be repaired at first time and sometimes it can't be repaired ever.
So when i had problem of 10 gigs for example on disk, i've scaned and tried to repair sectors. After that if it can't be repaired i've just created partitions which are usable between those sectors.

As far as lifetime of disk that's something that manufacuturer's don't know really. Start up counts are something determined on MTBF (Mean time before failure) and that's there because it has to be for trading rules.
MTTBF for power supply is 100 000h (more than ten year's) and I've seen them die after 2 (when warranty expires) and after 3, 4, 5 years and i have couple psu's which still work on cash machines that are 14 years old.