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Need help! Digital Painting and Motion graphics build for under $600

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March 14, 2013 6:27:26 AM

Hi!. I have a read several builds for motion graphics and animation, but they're way above my budget so I would really like some advice from you :D 

What it is for...

* I need a system that can run smoothly and make use of graphic acceleration in Adobe Photoshop and Corel Painter for rather big files (I work in advertising and Illustration, so I often find myself working in +7000px files). For motion graphics (which I also do for advertising) I usually need to have 3 or 4 different programs running at the same time, one of them being Adobe After Effects.
* I'm nowhere near a "power gamer"... pretty much the only game I play is "league of legends" (which my core i5 M450 laptop runs at 60fps, high settings) but I'd like to have a chance on more demanding games.
* I don't use any 3D software.
* I'd like to use 2 monitors (I've been working with a WXVGA for a long time, so I'd like to get a full HD monitor in the very near future, but I don't want it included in this build).


What I don't need...
* No monitor, no mouse, no keyboard, no drives, no HDD. Case optional, but new PSU seems to be a must (I think my case has a 400w PSU)
* I have no interest in overclocking or investing in cooling systems.

Budget:
* I'd love to keep it under $550 US.

Brands:
* I've had a great time with ASUS components and NVIDIA chipsets. but I'm open to sugestions.

What I've seen that could work (the last PC I built was in 2007, so forgive me if this matchup doesn't make much sense):

* mobo: Asus P8H61-M LX3 r2.0
* proc: i3 3220
* video: Asus gtx650 1gb ddr5
* ram: Corsair vengeance ddr3 1600 8gb



Thanks to anyone who can help me :D 

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March 14, 2013 6:38:59 AM

Something akin to this may be a good choice for you

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($52.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $511.49
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-14 09:38 EDT-0400)
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March 14, 2013 6:40:13 AM

Graphic Acceleration is by using CUDA. Adobe will take advantage of this but you would have to get a really high end gaming card or go with a pro series Quadro
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March 14, 2013 6:44:05 AM

Or an alternative AMD build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.13 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Kingston Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($52.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $550.06
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-14 09:44 EDT-0400)
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March 14, 2013 6:49:23 AM

I am a fan of the AMD video cards but if he is wanting "I need a system that can run smoothly and make use of graphic acceleration" then he will need to use Nvidia
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March 14, 2013 6:59:27 AM

Thx for the replies :D ... On the GPU... wouldn't the gtx 650 be enough for photshop's interactive brush resize, zooming and canvas rotating? those are really all the functions I need to use without stuttering. I've heard of the quadro cards, but they are clearly more expensive than I intend (however, if well-versed guys tell me "you definitely need quadro", I could consider it)

On the mother board... what would be the real difference between h61 and h77?

thank you all again :D 
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March 14, 2013 7:02:15 AM

Your absolutely right, my minds off on auto pilot. Alternative would be drop to a lower processor, or save a little more in the budget to get to the gtx660.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.13 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Kingston Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($52.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $545.06
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-14 10:01 EDT-0400)
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March 14, 2013 7:03:52 AM

Most video cards will be enough to use in Photoshop... i have a laptop i use with Photoshop and i am using the integrated HD4000 from my cpu and it works just fine, but I get no graphic acceleration from it nor will you from a 650.... I would use the card you have available to you now and if you start to see a need for better graphical power then look into gtx680 or quadros.

h61 and h77
One just allows for more OverClocking abilities.
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March 14, 2013 7:04:31 AM

izerial said:
Thx for the replies :D ... On the GPU... wouldn't the gtx 650 be enough for photshop's interactive brush resize, zooming and canvas rotating? those are really all the functions I need to use without stuttering. I've heard of the quadro cards, but they are clearly more expensive than I intend (however, if well-versed guys tell me "you definitely need quadro", I could consider it)

On the mother board... what would be the real difference between h61 and h77?

thank you all again :D 


I've put in a 650ti as it fits the budget and should suit your needs.

H61 was the chipset for sandybridge cpu's, h77 is for ivy bridge cpu's, most older h61 mobo's will work, some will need a bios update though, however it's always best to buy current gen.
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March 14, 2013 7:45:55 AM

great info... I'd dare to ask this... would the video chipset of this mobo http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8Z77M/
be enough to work photoshop with the interactive tools I mentioned (brush resizing, smooth zooming, canvas rotation) and after effects motion graphics use?.
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March 14, 2013 7:54:49 AM

The integrated graphics of that system come from the CPU so it is dependent on what CPU you install in the mobo. I wouldn't like to say yes to it being enough for you, a discrete GPU would be better.
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March 14, 2013 8:07:59 AM

integrated will work just fine... it will just slow down all processes.
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March 14, 2013 8:32:18 AM

If you can keep your case, this bad boy should give you the change to upgrade the processor in the future and also give you a better graphics card to use CUDA with the Adobe Suite wich will speed up your work.

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Rosewill Green 530W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($47.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $521.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-14 11:29 EDT-0400)
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March 17, 2013 10:21:22 AM

mikerockett said:
Something akin to this may be a good choice for you

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($52.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $511.49
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-14 09:38 EDT-0400)


Thanks to all of you who heard my call :D , after reading all the replies and looking up several specific articles regarding Adobe and GPU, and a lot of walking around and asking, I went for a considerably similar build to this one.

* i5-3570, since the 3470 wasnt on stock.
* similar board, but ASUS brand, since I know for sure its high quality.
* I could not find the 7850 from my local vendors (I'm outside us or europe and buying these things online is... complicated), but considering the CUDA stuff and my budget (like you put it in a post below), I got the EVGA nvidia gtx 650ti 2gb (would have gotten asus brand, but again, out of stock)
* kingston hyper x red (you also mentioned it below)
* no drive, already got one

Thank you again :D 
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March 17, 2013 10:51:23 AM

You're more than welcome, glad you're happy with it.
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