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Buying a new cpu, will i see a performance change?

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March 14, 2013 11:47:44 AM

Alright, so I was told that i needed a new cpu because it was holding back my gpu which causes most games that i should be able to run smoothly on max setting, to run at MAYBE 3fps on lowest setting possible.

The current Cpu that i have is :AMD Athlon II X3 450 Rana 3.2GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor (from newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... )

and im upgrading to this: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor (from newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... )

So my question is, would i see a performance difference in terms of fps by switching these, or did I get talked into buying something that wont matter?

Also, if this is needed i have 4 gb of ram (upgrading to 8 the same time as upgrading cpus)

and my graphic card is: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card (100314-3L ) ( from newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... )

Thank you very much to anyone who can offer help. if some more detail is needed, let me know. i will do my best to find the information, however im very unacknowledged about computer hardware.
March 14, 2013 11:54:34 AM

Imo your CPU isn't too bad. An extra core is useful in the long run, but at the moment a fast dual such as the i3 3220 is more than enough as games still don't scale as well as they should with more cores. Depending on the resolution you play games on, your GPU should be more of a bottle neck. I would just save up a bit more and do a bigger upgrade later when the Intel Haswell CPU's come out or an AMD FX8350 system.

EDIT: 4GB RAM should be fine, but bumping up to 8GB would be a good idea. But as I said, better to save up for a bigger upgrade later.
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March 14, 2013 11:54:35 AM

In many games, you will see a difference. It will be less in games where the GPU is the bottleneck, such as Metro 2033. In any case, I don't think you've wasted your money.
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March 14, 2013 11:56:00 AM

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition will be faster
8GB will benefit you in modern games
64 bit windows required for 4GB Above
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March 14, 2013 12:08:21 PM

I'd just grab a phenom II and a cooler master Hyper 212 CPU cooler, run it at 4GHz and you're gtg
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March 14, 2013 12:13:15 PM

Well thank you, and to give an idea what id be playing, are games like Arma 2, Natural selection, d3, Crysis. Those are just the games that are off the top of my head. I tried all of them, and with my set up, for some reason arma 2, d3, and natural selection 2 all run under 5fps despite meeting the requirements for max settings.
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March 14, 2013 12:17:40 PM

rhs07bulldog said:
Well thank you, and to give an idea what id be playing, are games like Arma 2, Natural selection, d3, Crysis. Those are just the games that are off the top of my head. I tried all of them, and with my set up, for some reason arma 2, d3, and natural selection 2 all run under 5fps despite meeting the requirements for max settings.


I assume you have the latest motherboard / chipset drivers loaded? ( if your chipset is AMD 785 or 870 ) as well as latest video drivers?

A phenom II should drop right into your current system and you should see significant improvement if you ramp the clockspeed to 3.8 - 4.0 GHz
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March 14, 2013 12:48:11 PM

The 965 BE will be a nice improvement. OC'd to 4GHz, it's as good as the i5 2500k @ stock.

And ignore the guy telling you to get an i3. The 965 BE trades blows in single/dual-threaded games with the top i3s. Throw in some gameplay recording and/or photoshop and/or whatever-other-thing-you-might-have-open, and the 965 BE flexes it's muscle.

And in games using three/four threads, the 965 BE will, once again, leave the i3 in the dust.

tl;dr, Get the 965 BE. It's a nice piece of kit. THE BEST CPU as far as price:p erformance is concerned.
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March 14, 2013 1:16:26 PM

Yes im pretty sure i have all the updates to my drivers and such, and as far as Over clocking goes, Ive never over clocked before. So ill have to look into that. Thank you.
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