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Hey guys I'm building an aesthetic/mid-high end gaming rig April. I was thinking of grabbing the i5 3470 and wrap it with an nvidia 650 ti or something. It just hit me that haswell is coming out June. Should I wait? I need it for mid settings gaming at 1080p (1 monitor), with above 60fps. Game titles include black ops 2, crysis 3, far cry 3.
 
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Shadow_07 said:The only thing really to look forward to in Haswell is the updated integrated graphics
If I were in your shoes I'd get a slightly higher spec Ivy Bridge I5 like the 3550 or the 3570 hell maybe even a K edition CPU, There isn't much change in Haswell outside of the graphics in my opinion.

I agree with the statement above, but he forgot to touch on, at least fom what I have read; Haswell will also have a TDP that can be changed for better efficiency. It is more of an increase in performance per watt CPU rather than an overall performance gain from what I have read.

I also agree with the other user that, at least for games of the caliber you wish to play, you will want a better GPU, 660ti or 7950 minimum you can get both...
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What you need is a better card, not the cpu, the i5-3470 will do fine, but the 650 ti for 1080p in some demanding games won't give ~60 fps even at mid settings, like far cry 3 or crysis 3, i recommend getting the 660 ti, if possible, perhaps you should save up for a better card and meanwhile wait for the haswell cpus.
 
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The performance increase from Ivy Bridge to Haswell is not expected to be very large. Assuming the same clockspeeds I would expect only a 6% - 8% increase in performance. Real benchmarks are not expected until Intel officially launches Haswell in June.

A CPU with 6% - 8% performance increase is relatively minor for games. So whether or not you should wait depends on if you can live with your current PC for a little while longer.
 
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If you can wait... Wait.
If you need it now, go with Ivy bridge. (both will play mid settings with ease)
It won't be a massive difference between the two. It's only a 10-15% performance increase expectancy (if that). But in my opinion it is always smart to go with the newest technology if it's a possibility.
 
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In my opinion The only thing really to look forward to in Haswell is the updated integrated graphics (Just my opinion though), other than that if you plan not to use the Integrated graphics, the difference will be very minimal in terms of day to day performance, perhaps a few more FPS in games but that's about it, I think the only reason you should wait for Haswell is if you want to be one of those guys who can say they have the latest and greatest CPU.

But remember I'm sure it will come at a price, If I were in your shoes I'd get a slightly higher spec Ivy Bridge I5 like the 3550 or the 3570 hell maybe even a K edition CPU, There isn't much change in Haswell outside of the graphics in my opinion.
 
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Shadow_07 said:The only thing really to look forward to in Haswell is the updated integrated graphics
If I were in your shoes I'd get a slightly higher spec Ivy Bridge I5 like the 3550 or the 3570 hell maybe even a K edition CPU, There isn't much change in Haswell outside of the graphics in my opinion.

I agree with the statement above, but he forgot to touch on, at least fom what I have read; Haswell will also have a TDP that can be changed for better efficiency. It is more of an increase in performance per watt CPU rather than an overall performance gain from what I have read.

I also agree with the other user that, at least for games of the caliber you wish to play, you will want a better GPU, 660ti or 7950 minimum you can get both for the $300 dollar price range, at least it is in which nation I reside. Try to read through reviews when selecting GPU's. For some reason, at least from my experience, those threads always turn into Nvidia V.S. AMD quarrels and rantings.

My advice is that you get a CPU with an unlocked multiplier, Haswell or Ivy, it will not matter very much which you choose.
 
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This pc is for asthetics/ friends house I'm always at. I'm not going to overclock too much. I will however grab a better you, I assumed the gtx 650 ti would suffice according to the charts.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/sparkle_geforce_gtx_650_ti_dragon_review,9.html

$300 is a bit too high because I need a budget for water cooling, (aesthetics remember). By the way if you're curious, I'm getting 3 80mm single rad, 2 lanning
Dc mini pumps, with 1/2 bay reservoir and pump case. This will be in a mini clear acrylic itx computer. Grabbing 8gb of MSI z77 led ram and all that fun stuff. Any suggestion let me know!

Any ways any other (nvidia) gpu maybe 660? What's the price for that?
 
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If you don't plan to overclock much and you're in a tight budget, why get something(water cooling) like that will cost hundreds of dollars for nothing, specially with an i5-3470 cpu, which cannot be overclocked(you can raise just more 400 mhz, but that's it), if you do plan to overclock get the i5-3570k and the hyper 212 evo, you mentioned crysis 3, far cry 3, at 1080p, i recommend spending more on the gpu, just get a good looking case and spend the rest on the gpu, like a 660 ti/7950 or even a 670 gtx/7970.
 
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A water cooling system is not needed with no intent of overclocking, and frankly is a waste of money, if you are planning on overclocking only a bit as "djangoringo" has suggested the Hyper 212 Evo from cool master, having never have used one before I can not have a direct opinion, but from what I have heard it is quite a nice cooler.

For the games you want to play, plus the data you have provided me, the 650ti will not suffice, frame latencies are very high when you are only averaging 25fps. I have SLI'd 670s with a very high overclock and I'm only seeing 60 fps maximum on Ultra/Very High settings at 1080p on Crysis 3, here is a little look into how hardware, even some of the best today, holds up against Crysis 3.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performance-benchmark-gaming,3451-4.html

I personally always buy from my local computer store beacause I don't like having to wait on RMA for poor package handling, manufacturing errors, plus technological advice right on sight, but feel free to check out the links below for online prices of 660s and the Ti versions alike.

Here is a link to New Egg for PNY 660ti for 279.99

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133466

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=100006663&isNodeId=1&Description=GTX+660&x=0&y=0

Hope this helps!
 
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As already stated, why in the world would you get high dollar water cooling just for the looks when you don't even plan on overclocking therefore never ever needing the water cooling. Big time waste IMO. The least you could do is spend 20-30$ more and get a 3570k along with the water cooling so it won't be AS MUCH of a waste.

As for the GFX. A 650 Ti is the least powerful GPU I would ever get. Which is kind of a compliment. It will play most games on fairly high settings. But for the games your wanting to get 60 fps on, at least get a GTX 660 or AMD HD 7870. FYI they are 219.99 for an EVGA GTX 660 and 239.99 for the AMD HD 7870.

I own a GTX 660 Ti and it plays those games no problem. I have all three of those games, Far Cry 3, Crysis 3, CODII. CODII I get 140FPS with every single thing on super HIGH. Far Cry I get from 50-60FPS on Ultra as long as I only use 2x MSAA. And on Crysis I get 40-60FPS on all HIGH settings (not Very High) with 2xSMAA. So to get the FPS you wanna get you at least gotta get a 660 Ti. But a regular 660 or 7870 should be enough. Instead of getting 60 like I get you'll get 50.
 
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Grab Haswell if you want to buy Laptop (More battery life and less heat).
Grab either Sandy, Ivy, or Haswell for gaming PC (the different performance is too small) and if you grab sandy or ivy most likely you got a cheaper price (So IMO the ratio is the same "Performance/Price").
 
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Wait for Haswell so that the price of ivy will drop.If you are not overclocking you should not spend so much money on heatsink,instead get a a high end air cooler and invest on a better graphic card.
 
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