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Is this a good setup for 1700 budget for gaming.

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March 15, 2013 9:23:21 AM

CARE1: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit [+19]

CARE2: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chassis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]

CAS: * Apevia X-Trooper LED Light Mid-Tower Case w/ Side Window [-45] (Blue LED Light Color)

CASUPGRADE: 12in Cold Cathode Neon Light [+10] (Blue Color)
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)

COOLANT: Standard Coolant

CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-3570K 3.40 GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified)

CS_FAN: Maximum Enermax 120MM Case Cooling Fans for selected case (Maximum Silent Operation) [+29] (500-1,200 RPM T.B. Silence Black Color with Blue LED Twister Bearing 8-14 dBA [+0])

FA_HDD: Vigor iSURF II Hard Disk Drive Cooling System [+21] (1 x System)

FAN: Cooler Master Seidon 120M Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator (Dual Standard 120MM Fans (Push-Pull) [+16])

HDD: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+27] (Single Drive)


IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports

KEYBOARD: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard

MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1866MHz Dual Channel Memory [+14] (G.SKILL Ripjaws X [+14])

MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX/SLI] ASUS Sabertooth Z77 Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ Lucid Virtu MVP, TUF Thermal Armor, 7.1 HD Audio, Intel GbLAN, Display Port, 3x PCIe x16 (2 Gen3, 1 Gen2) & 3x PCIe x1 (All Venom OC Certified) [+176]

MOUSE: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network

OS: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium [+104] (64-bit Edition)

OVERCLOCK: Extreme OC (Extreme Overclock 20% or more) [+49]

POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready [+5]

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+305] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)

WNC: 802.11b/g/n 300Mbps PCI Wireless
_PRICE: (+1615)

I have also decided i don't care about faster booting so i do not want a ssd.
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March 15, 2013 9:36:49 AM

You can save about $500 if you build it yourself. Any reason you don't want to?
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March 15, 2013 9:40:02 AM

wanderer11 said:
You can save about $500 if you build it yourself. Any reason you don't want to?


im not that skilled, im a student so i don't have time, and id just rather someone with more experience build a rig for me.
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March 15, 2013 9:46:19 AM

You're not "building" anything, you're just getting the parts and plugging in the chords. A monkey could probably do it. In fact a monkey CAN do it, have you ever seen those tests where they make the monkey put the star block into the star and the square block into the square? If you're too lazy to do it, just find a monkey and give him a banana and he'll do it for you. I'm sure a banana won't cost you anywhere near $500.
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March 15, 2013 9:47:57 AM

gebran bassil said:
You're not "building" anything, you're just getting the parts and plugging in the chords. A monkey could probably do it. In fact a monkey CAN do it, have you ever see those tests where they make the monkey put the star block into the star and the square block into the square? If you're too lazy, to do it, just find a monkey and give him a banana and he'll do it for you. I'm sure a bana won't cost you anywhere near $500.


Be that as it may.. i don't want to mess something up even if it is "simple"

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March 15, 2013 9:51:42 AM

Well to answer your question, No. That is not a good setup for 1700. I got a 3570k/7870 build with all the peripherals (2560x1440 monitor and 1920x1080, keyboard, mouse, etc.) for $1800.
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March 15, 2013 9:55:59 AM

You're not gonna mess anything up. The only part where you might find difficulty is attaching the CPU fan to the CPU and using the thermal paste, for that you would take 2 minutes to read the instructions that are drawn very simply so anyone can understand them. Other than that, it's just plugs and screws.
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March 15, 2013 9:57:47 AM

Is there tutorials on how to put one together. and were should i order the parts from?
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March 15, 2013 10:04:46 AM

plenty tutorials just google build a pc tutorial

yes a monkey may be able to plug in everything

but when you press the power button for the 1st time and it doesnt come on the monkey cant troubleshoot it :D 

in theory its easy

but in practice if its so easy why do we have forums like THG
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March 15, 2013 10:05:55 AM

Absolutely there are tutorials. There are some on Newegg, youtube, stickys in the forums here. Where you order them from depends on where you live/prefer to shop. You should take a week or two and watch tutorials and figure out how to build before you order parts. You could then update this post or start a new thread to ask for help choosing parts.
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March 15, 2013 10:15:46 AM

I second the notion that it isn't a well priced build. $19 for better cable management is daylight robbery as is better packaging.

Plus you mention you don't want an SSD because you don't care about boot times. Trust me they speed up more than boot times. Programs open as soon as you want them to open. They also don't make any noise (if that matters to you, it does to me) plus when something stops responding the computer returns back to working order so much faster with an SSD. And they aren't too expensive anymore.

Maybe you could save some money on a lower end motherboard.

Also don't pay them to overclock for you. A few months ago I knew nothing of OCing and even considered not getting a K series processor to save a little money. It only took one good overclocking video and a written guide and now I am undervolting and playing with Load line calibration just for fun. It's a good thing to learn as well, as you can then apply the knowledge to future builds.

Same goes for building it yourself, once you learn how to you can use the knowledge for other builds you or others may want. If you have time to play on this system then you have time to learn how to build one. It's not "simple," it actually is simple. I understand you are worried if you mess something up on a huge investment, but that is what warranties are for. Plus you can taylor any combination of parts to create a unique build. Something you can sit beside and be proud of.

Finally you are already a member of tom's hardware so feel free to ask as many questions as you want. Anything is better than dealing with endless threads asking for windows keys and free drivers.

I hope I haven't put too much of a downer on things.

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a b 4 Gaming
March 15, 2013 10:45:12 AM

If u don't want build, don't. Making a quilt is easy too but I'd rather just buy one... Is that from cyberpower or ibuypower, and is that your budget?
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March 15, 2013 11:32:18 AM

J_E_D_70 said:
If u don't want build, don't. Making a quilt is easy too but I'd rather just buy one... Is that from cyberpower or ibuypower, and is that your budget?


Itss from cyber and yea pretty much 1700 is as high as i will go,

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March 15, 2013 4:59:33 PM

Here is another build from there that I think is a little better. I've had two PCs from Cyberpower over the years and both are still kicking (but I did build the one in my sig block).
- This build has a better case so you don't need the extra fans (also quieter - wife has an Apevia)
- Don't pay for "better" packing - you have a liquid cooler so won't put stress on mobo like a tower cooler would (and, they still have to fix it if something's not right)
- I would pay for them to do cable management or you'll end up doing it yourself
- Don't pay them to overclock it - you can do that at zero risk in less than 5 minutes (after you fire it up and make sure all is well, reboot, go into BIOS, set the multiplier from 34 to 40 (i.e. 4Ghz) leaving everything else on auto, save and exit - done!)
- HDD cooler? Just... no
- 1600MHz RAM is just as good for gaming - save the money
- much better PSU
- do you really need wireless - very bad for online gaming
- Sabertooth is a massive waste of money and gets you zero performance over a much less expensive board
- you really, really need the SSD - it affect more than just boot - all programs are faster, snappier system, faster level loads - 250GB is enough for a LOT of games
- GHz edition GPU with better cooling solution (and quieter)

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