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valeman2012

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I got 2x4 each 2 is different (mixed ram chips)

I think my timing is causing freezes in my computer

What should my Timmings be set to?
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SiSoftware Sandra

Mainboard
Manufacturer : ECS (Elitegroup)
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
Multi-Processing (MPS) Version : 1.40
Model : SpringdalePE
BIOS : 09/12/2005-SpringdalePE-6A79AE19C-00
Chipset : Intel 865/848 (Springdale)

Chipset
Model : ECS 82865G/PE/P, 82848P DRAM Controller / Host-Hub Interface
OEM Device Name : Intel 82865G/PE/P, 82848P DRAM Controller / Host-Hub Interface
Revision : A3
Bus : Intel AGTL+
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 200MHz (800MHz)
Maximum FSB Speed : 4x 200MHz (800MHz)
Width : 64-bit
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes
I/O Queue Depth : 12 request(s)
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 6.25GB/s
Maximum Power : 4.320W

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : Hub-Interface
Version : 1.80
No. Ports : 3
In/Out Width : 8-bit
Duplex : Yes
Multiplier : 2x

Logical/Chipset Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 512MB DIMM DDR 2.5-3-3-6 1T
Bank 1 : 512MB DIMM DDR 2.5-3-3-6 1T
Bank 2 : 512MB DIMM DDR 2.5-3-3-6 1T
Bank 3 : 512MB DIMM DDR 2.5-3-3-6 1T
Maximum Memory : 4GB
Supported Memory Types : ECC DIMM DDR
Channels : 2
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 133MHz (266MHz)
Maximum Memory Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz)
Multiplier : 4/6x
Width : 64-bit
FMAX - Fast Memory Access Support : No
Refresh Rate : 8µs
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 4.16GB/s

APIC 1
Version : 2.00
Multiplier : 1/2x
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler Engaged : Yes
Enhanced Support : Yes

Memory Module
Manufacturer : Xerox
Type : 512MB DDR
Technology : 16x(32Mx8)
Speed : PC1-2100U DDR1-266
Standard Timings : 2.5-3-3-6 2-0-0-0
Memory DC Line : 2.500V
Timing @ 133MHz : 2.5-3-3-6 2-0-0-0
Timing @ 100MHz : 2-2-2-5 2-0-0-0

Memory Module
Manufacturer : Corsair
Model : CMX512-3200C2
Type : 512MB DDR
Technology : 16x(32Mx8)
Speed : PC1-3200U DDR1-400
Standard Timings : 3-3-3-8 2-12-0-0
Memory DC Line : 2.500V
Timing @ 200MHz : 3-3-3-8 2-12-0-0
Timing @ 167MHz : 2.5-3-3-7 2-10-0-0
Timing @ 133MHz : 2-2-2-5 1-8-0-0

Memory Module
Manufacturer : Xerox
Type : 512MB DDR
Technology : 16x(32Mx8)
Speed : PC1-2100U DDR1-266
Standard Timings : 2.5-3-3-6 2-0-0-0
Memory DC Line : 2.500V
Timing @ 133MHz : 2.5-3-3-6 2-0-0-0
Timing @ 100MHz : 2-2-2-5 2-0-0-0

Memory Module
Manufacturer : Corsair
Model : CMX512-3200C2
Type : 512MB DDR
Technology : 16x(32Mx8)
Speed : PC1-3200U DDR1-400
Standard Timings : 3-3-3-8 2-12-0-0
Memory DC Line : 2.500V
Timing @ 200MHz : 3-3-3-8 2-12-0-0
Timing @ 167MHz : 2.5-3-3-7 2-10-0-0
Timing @ 133MHz : 2-2-2-5 1-8-0-0

Sensor
Model : Winbond W83637HF LPC
Version : 8.00
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 50.00°C
CPU Temperature : 50.50°C
CPU 2/Aux Temperature : 30.50°C

Cooling Device(s)
Auto Fan Speed Control : Yes
CPU Fan : 4327rpm
CPU 2/Aux Fan : 5444rpm

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU DC Line : 1.525V
+3.3V DC Line : 3.189V
+5V DC Line : 5.102V
+12V DC Line : 5.917V
-12V DC Line : -14.559V
Standby DC Line : 5.008V
Battery DC Line : 3.413V

System Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.20
System Bus 0 : PCI
System Bus 1 : AGP
System Bus 2 : PCI

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge
Revision : A3
ACPI Power Management Enabled : Yes
Delayed Transaction Enabled : Yes

LPC Legacy Controller 1
Type : Winbond W83637HF/HG
Version : 0.81
No. Enabled Devices : 11 Unit(s)

Disk Controller
Model : ECS 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) EIDE Controller
OEM Device Name : Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) EIDE Controller
Interface : ATA
Revision : A3
Maximum UDMA Mode : UltraDMA-5 / ATA100
Channels : 4
In Use Channels : 2, 50%
Port : UltraDMA-5 / ATA100
Port : UltraDMA-2 / ATA33

Audio Device
Model : 18754 ES1370 AudioPCI
OEM Device Name : Creative ES1370 AudioPCI
Revision : A1
Type : AC '97

USB Controller 1
Model : ECS 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1
OEM Device Name : Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1
Revision : A3
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
Model : ECS 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2
OEM Device Name : Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2
Revision : A3
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 3
Model : ECS 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #3
OEM Device Name : Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #3
Revision : A3
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 4
Model : ECS 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #4
OEM Device Name : Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #4
Revision : A3
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 5
Model : ECS 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB 2.0 EHCI Controller
OEM Device Name : Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB 2.0 EHCI Controller
Revision : A3
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 8
Companion Controllers : 4
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)
Addressing Support : 64-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

FireWire/1394 Controller 1
Model : VIA VT6306 VIA Fire II IEEE-1394 OHCI Link Layer Controller
OEM Device Name : VIA VT6306 VIA Fire II IEEE-1394 OHCI Link Layer Controller
Revision : I1
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Enhanced Support : No
Channels : 64
Speed : 400MHz

SMBus/i2c Controller 1
Model : Intel ICH SMBus
Version : 0.02
Specification : 2.00
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : Yes
PEC Support : No
Speed : 100kHz

Expansion Slot(s)
PCI0 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full Available
PCI1 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full Available
PCI2 (3h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full Used
PCI3 (4h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full Available
PCI4 (5h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full Available
PCI5 (6h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full Available
PCI6 (7h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full Available
PCI7 (8h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full Used
ￃￋh (9h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full Available
AGP (8h) : AGP 32-bit +5V Full Used

Port Connector(s)
PRIMARY IDE : ATA
SECONDARY IDE : ATA
FDD : 8251 FIFO / Floppy Disk
COM1 : Serial Port 16450 / 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
COM2 : Serial Port 16450 / 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
LPT1 : Parallel Port ECP/EPP / DB-25 pin female / DB-25 pin female
Keyboard : Keyboard / PS/2 / PS/2
PS/2 Mouse : Mouse / PS/2 / PS/2
USB0 : USB
USB1 : USB
USB2 : USB
USB3 : USB
 
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nukemaster
Your timings look to have been set correctly. You are matching the lowest speed sticks timings and frequency.

If you have an option to chance the 1T command rate to 2T it may help matters as it stresses the memory controller less.

Also, sometimes a very small bump in memory voltage helps when running 4 sticks. I had to do that back with my Q6600 system.

If all else fails, try just the 2 newer sticks and see how they work. In rare occasions(it still happens), you can actually have memory that simply will not run together.
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Your timings look to have been set correctly. You are matching the lowest speed sticks timings and frequency.

If you have an option to chance the 1T command rate to 2T it may help matters as it stresses the memory controller less.

Also, sometimes a very small bump in memory voltage helps when running 4 sticks. I had to do that back with my Q6600 system.

If all else fails, try just the 2 newer sticks and see how they work. In rare occasions(it still happens), you can actually have memory that simply will not run together.
 
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On the BIOS those settings were on Default/Auto (Default Settings)

My computer was freezing (On the DEFAULT SETTINGS)

But i lower the FEQ to 266MHZ hoping that fix i cant really tell because crash has no pattern and happen randomly (Sometimes few in our hours after computer to windows or few days/weeks.


 
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well the slowest sticks are rated for 266 MAX, so if you had been trying for higher, no wonder it was crashing.

You can use something like [urlhttp://www.memtest.org/#downiso]memtest86+[/url] to test memory over night, it finds most errors that are bad enough to cause a crash.

If you get errors, you should try each stick one at a time to see if one is bad.

Higher numbers for timings are looser and thereby more easy to run stable.
 
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I selected the 266MHZ (LOWEST) Just freezed than got 3xx Something Mhz and 400MHZ

Auto (When i Gave you people the details on the computer specs the option on this Auto )
266 Slected by just freezes
3xxMhz (I forgot the extact numbers) did not try
400MHZ (MAX) did no try

http://download.ecsusa.com/dlfileecs/manual/mb/eng/l4/pf1_12a.zip Download Link if you wan check my motherbaords and Motherboard Bios Options
 
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I try that however the results may have to wait few mins to numbers of days/week because freezing is random



http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-performance/random-freezes-with-windows-7-64-bit/85cad5d1-dace-415d-9b06-5c609209e232 someone had same issue almost related to mines

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What i extactlly am i doing whats number do i put? and what should i change

NOTE: Forgot Also on Safe Mode freezed 1 time but i was different freezing
I do not know if is my video card which i bought last year on April 2012 or my Thermal Paste cause the issues really started on Jan 13 2013 (Before that it had the freezing problem (Between Jan 1-13 i had 2 Bluescreens PFN List Corrupt than few days later BAD MEMORY)

I did remove all memory clean slot and threw the 2 bad memory out and replaced with the non bad memory


I currently trying 2 Crosair (New Ones) first cause never tried that

Because the old non bad memory had bad memory chip next to it i decided take those out for see if it freezes
 
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