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March 16, 2013 3:07:52 PM

£38.77 Gigabyte 78LMT-USB3 AM3+ AMD 760G DDR3 mATX http://www.dabs.com/products/gigabyte-78lmt-usb3-am3--a...
£104.99 AMD Bulldozer FX-6 Six Core 6200 Black Edition 3.80Ghz (Socket AM3+) http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP...
£169.99 Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 2GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI OC http://www.dabs.com/products/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-660-2...
£47.98 Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1866Mhz CL9 Vengeance Red Performance Desktop Memory Kit http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-8gb--2x4gb--ddr3-1...
£40.18 Seagate 500GB Barracuda SATA-600 7200RPM 16MB 3.5" Hard Drive http://www.dabs.com/products/seagate-500gb-barracuda-sa...
£50.28 Corsair 600W Builder Series CX Series CX 80+ Bronze ATX Power Supply http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-600w-builder-serie...
£40.56 Gigabyte GZ-G2 Gaming Case Plus with USB 3.0 Ports & 2 Front Fans http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/gigabyte-gz-g2-black-twin-fro...
Windows 7 ultimate 64bit (already bought)
£16.99 LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA Bare Internal DVD Rewriter - Black http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-GH24NS90-AUAA50B-SATA-Intern...
£536.33

£38.77 Gigabyte 78LMT-USB3 AM3+ AMD 760G DDR3 mATX http://www.dabs.com/products/gigabyte-78lmt-usb3-am3--a...
£104.99 AMD Bulldozer FX-6 Six Core 6200 Black Edition 3.80Ghz (Socket AM3+) http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP...
£155.98 Asus AMD Radeon 7850 HD 860 MHz 2GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI DirectCU II http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-amd-radeon-7850-hd-86...
£47.98 Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1866Mhz CL9 Vengeance Red Performance Desktop Memory Kit http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-8gb--2x4gb--ddr3-1...
£40.18 Seagate 500GB Barracuda SATA-600 7200RPM 16MB 3.5" Hard Drive http://www.dabs.com/products/seagate-500gb-barracuda-sa...
£50.28 Corsair 600W Builder Series CX Series CX 80+ Bronze ATX Power Supply http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-600w-builder-serie...
£40.56 Gigabyte GZ-G2 Gaming Case Plus with USB 3.0 Ports & 2 Front Fans http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/gigabyte-gz-g2-black-twin-fro...
Windows 7 ultimate 64bit (already bought)
£16.99 LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA Bare Internal DVD Rewriter - Black http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-GH24NS90-AUAA50B-SATA-Intern...
£522.32

£38.77 Gigabyte 78LMT-USB3 AM3+ AMD 760G DDR3 mATX http://www.dabs.com/products/gigabyte-78lmt-usb3-am3--a...
£99.95 AMD A10-5800K Black Edition 3.80GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP...
£155.98 Asus AMD Radeon 7850 HD 860 MHz 2GB PCI-Express 3.0 HDMI DirectCU II http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-amd-radeon-7850-hd-86...
£47.98 Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1866Mhz CL9 Vengeance Red Performance Desktop Memory Kit http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-8gb--2x4gb--ddr3-1...
£40.18 Seagate 500GB Barracuda SATA-600 7200RPM 16MB 3.5" Hard Drive http://www.dabs.com/products/seagate-500gb-barracuda-sa...
£50.28 Corsair 600W Builder Series CX Series CX 80+ Bronze ATX Power Supply http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-600w-builder-serie...
£40.56 Gigabyte GZ-G2 Gaming Case Plus with USB 3.0 Ports & 2 Front Fans http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/gigabyte-gz-g2-black-twin-fro...
Windows 7 ultimate 64bit (already bought)
£16.99 LG GH24NS90.AUAA50B 24x SATA Bare Internal DVD Rewriter - Black http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-GH24NS90-AUAA50B-SATA-Intern...
£517.28


There is not much difference between all 3 specs as you can see but i was wondering which one would be better the first one is using nvidia GTX 660 2gb which i have been told is better then the Radeon 7850 2gb.
But the second spec will have crossfire as the motherboard has a built in ATI radeon 3000.The third spec will have 3 GPUs the built in ATI Radeon 3000 the Radeon 7850 and there is a built in AMD HD 7660D in
the cpu but then the cpu will only be a quad core instead of a six core. I was wondering your guys opinions as i know you know alot about PC's this is my first time building one and i have a limited budget. So which build is best?
March 16, 2013 3:12:38 PM

1 good GPU > 2 middle gpus

The best choice would be the first one but try to push your budget a little bit to get a 7870 at least. Best price/performance so far.


- The Brownie
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March 16, 2013 3:16:10 PM

First or third one. This is a build I would suggest for under 600.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6100 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor (£86.87 @ Ebuyer)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.75 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£59.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£44.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£40.14 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£216.98 @ Dabs)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£39.95 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.49 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £571.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-16 22:15 GMT+0000)

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6100 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor (£86.87 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£59.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£44.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£40.14 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Sandisk 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£46.76 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£216.98 @ Dabs)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£39.95 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.49 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £594.14
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-16 22:16 GMT+0000)
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March 16, 2013 3:22:25 PM

Using win XP is insane

it cant even use multicore processors that well

and none of those 3 builds would make any recommended list

Try
FX 6300
mb with a 970 series chipset
2 x4 gig of RAM
Radeon 7850
500 watt psu
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March 16, 2013 3:23:59 PM

Wow I just realized you are trying to install XP.
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March 16, 2013 3:28:20 PM

Oh from what i heard Windows xp proffesional has full milticore processor support.
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March 16, 2013 3:35:25 PM

MJTHOMAS said:
Oh from what i heard Windows xp proffesional has full milticore processor support.



That is not correct. And the situation would be more that usually awful since an you are using an FX processor that even Win 7 needs to be patched to run well

and even worse the 32 bit version you are trying to install wont be able to use more than 3 gig of RAM, and that includes the RAM in the graphics card. If you did try XP 64 bit you'd have no drivers , or very hard to find drivers

DO NOT even consider XP as an option in 2013

Use win 8 64 bit
If you want an XP like start menu install classic shell
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March 16, 2013 3:35:41 PM

Outlander_04 said:
Using win XP is insane

it cant even use multicore processors that well

and none of those 3 builds would make any recommended list

Try
FX 6300
mb with a 970 series chipset
2 x4 gig of RAM
Radeon 7850
500 watt psu


Windows XP Pro' has full support for Multicore processors. And 64bit versions of XP are available.
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March 16, 2013 3:37:02 PM

I suggest Linux if you have a very tight budget. Although it doesn't run many games, it's free and organised.
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March 16, 2013 3:42:06 PM

So whats the best to get Windows 7 Professional 64bit or windows 8 professional 64bit?.
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March 16, 2013 3:43:37 PM

SamGriffiths said:
Outlander_04 said:
Using win XP is insane

it cant even use multicore processors that well

and none of those 3 builds would make any recommended list

Try
FX 6300
mb with a 970 series chipset
2 x4 gig of RAM
Radeon 7850
500 watt psu


Windows XP Pro' has full support for Multicore processors. And 64bit versions of XP are available.


After SP2 yes it can use multicore processors , but not as well as vista , which cant use then as well as win 7 , which cant use them as well as Win 8
Its called progress and development

So its still insane to consider XP
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March 16, 2013 4:07:38 PM

Ok just updated it and i just ordered windows 7 ultimate 64bit which should come on Tuesday or Wednesday.
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June 19, 2013 9:40:23 AM

Outlander_04 said:
SamGriffiths said:
Outlander_04 said:
Using win XP is insane

it cant even use multicore processors that well

and none of those 3 builds would make any recommended list

Try
FX 6300
mb with a 970 series chipset
2 x4 gig of RAM
Radeon 7850
500 watt psu


Windows XP Pro' has full support for Multicore processors. And 64bit versions of XP are available.


After SP2 yes it can use multicore processors , but not as well as vista , which cant use then as well as win 7 , which cant use them as well as Win 8
Its called progress and development

So its still insane to consider XP

Congrats on being a arise who doesn't know that x64 XP pro 64 bit can support up to oh wait it doesn't have a limit. And a 32 bit can support 3 gigs of system ram. The gpu can support what it has, the system will have no effect on it. Almost all gpu's with driver discs have one for XP Pro. He could get a much better GPU then a 7850. Go home you child.

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June 19, 2013 3:55:35 PM

William Longstreet you are not correct

While XP 64 bit can use multicore processors it cant use them well

It would also limit you to DX9 which cant multithread games well at all

Win XP 64 bit drivers for peripherals are usually non existent , so even if a graphics driver is available the system is likely to have limitations elsewhere

And a 32 bit OS can address a total of about 3.2 gig of RAM , and that includes all addressable memory including that on the graphics card
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June 20, 2013 10:25:54 AM

Outlander_04 said:
William Longstreet you are not correct

While XP 64 bit can use multicore processors it cant use them well

It would also limit you to DX9 which cant multithread games well at all

Win XP 64 bit drivers for peripherals are usually non existent , so even if a graphics driver is available the system is likely to have limitations elsewhere

And a 32 bit OS can address a total of about 3.2 gig of RAM , and that includes all addressable memory including that on the graphics card


I believe your info is slightly incorrect. *most* high end GPUs run only on there own hardware. That memory is not bused via software but actually have a There own dedicated ram, given that your running xp it Will only accolade 192mb of VRam. If your running an older x32 application, it will only use 3gb of ram and up too 3.2gb of vram, depending on what it wants. However this behavior is not always true, it may wright to extra ram given it is a 64-bit application. While a 32-bit application my write over 3gb it cannot read, which may cause a ton of errors, likely to just crash. This means that windows xp pro x64 is similar to windows 7/8, only requiring less memory to run by its self.

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