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March 19, 2013 12:24:24 PM

so its time to build a new computer, and I've looked at what others are doing and tried to form something on pcpartpicker for my own needs. I keep overshooting my budget by $100 or so each time i tweak things, :/ 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KMOP

CPU:Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor $189.99 Microcenter
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $99.99 Amazon
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $54.98 Amazon
Storage: OCZ Agility 3 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk $64.99 Newegg
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $69.98 Outlet PC
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card $219.99 Newegg
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case $49.99 NCIX US
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply $49.99 Newegg
DVD: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer $15.98 Outlet PC
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98 Outlet PC
Monitor: Asus VH238H 23.0" Monitor $129.99 Newegg
Total: $1021.84

Approximate Purchase Date: this month (not in a rush)
Budget Range: $800-$1000, but Quality is more important
System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, surfing the internet, burning DVDs, Skyping, watching movies, Hulu
Are you buying a monitor: Yes (and i can tell the difference between 60fps and 90 fps)
Parts to Upgrade: uh, the whole thing
Do you need to buy OS: Yes (prefer Windows 7)
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I prefer Microcenter at least to buy the core parts, Newegg has given me trouble with returns, all other vendors probably ok.
Location: Northern NJ, USA (I will probably drive to the Microcenter in Paterson)
Parts Preferences: Intel CPU, and NVidia GFX card (I've liked Radeons in the past, but almost all of them fry on me, and do weird screen tearing while i play.)
Overclocking: Maybe (doutb it, but it must keep up with games in 5 years)
SLI or Crossfire: No (see above)
Your Monitor Resolution: none right now, need new one or use old CRT , would want 1600x1200, 1680x1050, 1920x1080, 1920x1200.
Additional Comments: I mostly need opinions on brands, I haven't built a computer since 2003.
I need a computer that will last along time, since i don't upgrade often, i just get used to a computer, and live with it till it dies.
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: my 1730M laptop from 2008, finally went kaput, from using it as a desktop constantly, i imagine.

I will play: War Thunder, Guild Wars 2, Bioshock infinite, Simcity (new one). League of Legends. I will not need something for Skyrim or Crysis 3. I don't play game that look amazing, I like games that play better and tell stories, so I think the one 660 is plenty, probably don't need the 660ti.

I'm lost when it comes to cases and MBs, and the Brand names of everything else. I need a case that i can move for LPs but I dont think i want a micro ATX, cause My LPs are once a year.
The case will not be on the floor, and I prefer more than 2 front side USBs if possible.

The MB should have nice transfer in case i add a third external HDD, its a strong possibility. I hate load times, hence the SSD, but hoping its big enough, cause I want to save money.

Someone told me 16 gigs of Ram for next gen games, but I can wait on that, no?

The most complex question i have, is can I lower the core and save a "significant" amount of money, since I probably wont overclock, but I need to keep in mind the power of it come 5 years time, cause we don't want to be buying computers so often. e.g. Can i Buy a H77, with a smaller cheaper locked CPU, and save like 200, and then also not have to upgrade for say, 3 years?

Nitpicky: Should i save 10 dollars for a 7200RPM HDD by taking a 32 MB cache instead of 64?
Is OCZ a good name in your minds for the SSD?
I hear theres 2 speeds for SSDs based on being beyond half full, will I notice it?
Should I get a MB that supports faster Ram? Will it be noticeable for the price?
Is the power supply enough, incase i decide to OC a bit in the future?
Should I get Win7 Professional?
I couldnt find a better monitor for the price and refresh, thoughts? Should I buy instore so i can look at it first?
March 19, 2013 12:41:14 PM

Sorry work is very busy right now but here's couple things to look at.. will add more after

CPU + MOBO Combo: Intel® Core™ i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor + GA-Z77-DS3H LGA 1155 Z77 ATX combo at Microcenter - 259.98 (save you some money microcenter has combo deals on cpu + mobo)


Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory 54.99 From NCIX US website.
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March 19, 2013 12:52:38 PM

My 2 cents:

-I'd buy this today / now at newegg: "Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit $99.99 EXTRA $20 OFF with promo code EMCXTWL48 (expires 03/20/2013" It won't get lower.

-120 GB SSD min. Either Crucial M4, Samsung 830/840, or Intel 330 / 335. The 120 GB will keep things easier that the 60 GB which will be painful to work around. I went with 180 GB to avoid sweating it. Also, if you have a spare HDD, just reuse it until you have enough money for a 1 TB HDD.

-Seems like you could get 8GB or RAM for under $50 for 1600.

-Newegg: Asus VH 247 H-P for 129.99 post rebate with code: EMCXTWL23 (don't know if it's better than the one you got or not)

-GPU's: here's a reference w/ associated costs: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
-Best you can do in that range would be the HD 7870 LE Tahiti i believe.

I prefer the mobo: ASRock Z77 Ext 4. I love mine. I got it and the 3570k at microcenter last summer. You will not find a better price than microcenter, but you have to go to the store to pick it up.

8 GB will be fine.

I was in your same shoes and went w/ 3570k and ASRock. I have not overclocked yet, but nice to know i could for a min investment.

finally, youtube: "newegg computer build parts 2&3" you'll be fine. take your time and enjoy. I love my SSD, but again, no lower than 120 GB.

Good Luk
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March 19, 2013 9:01:07 PM

heyscotttt said:
CPU + MOBO Combo: Intel® Core™ i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor + GA-Z77-DS3H LGA 1155 Z77 ATX combo at Microcenter - 259.98 (save you some money microcenter has combo deals on cpu + mobo)


Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory 54.99 From NCIX US website.


Wow thanks so much for that, I will drive out ASAP for that :)  but as for the ram, I will spend 3 more dollars for corsair ;) 

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March 19, 2013 9:06:10 PM

odiervr said:
My 2 cents:

-I'd buy this today / now at newegg: "Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit $99.99 EXTRA $20 OFF with promo code EMCXTWL48 (expires 03/20/2013" It won't get lower.

-120 GB SSD min. Either Crucial M4, Samsung 830/840, or Intel 330 / 335. The 120 GB will keep things easier that the 60 GB which will be painful to work around. I went with 180 GB to avoid sweating it. Also, if you have a spare HDD, just reuse it until you have enough money for a 1 TB HDD.

-Seems like you could get 8GB or RAM for under $50 for 1600.

-Newegg: Asus VH 247 H-P for 129.99 post rebate with code: EMCXTWL23 (don't know if it's better than the one you got or not)

-GPU's: here's a reference w/ associated costs: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
-Best you can do in that range would be the HD 7870 LE Tahiti i believe.

I prefer the mobo: ASRock Z77 Ext 4. I love mine. I got it and the 3570k at microcenter last summer. You will not find a better price than microcenter, but you have to go to the store to pick it up.

8 GB will be fine.

I was in your same shoes and went w/ 3570k and ASRock. I have not overclocked yet, but nice to know i could for a min investment.

finally, youtube: "newegg computer build parts 2&3" you'll be fine. take your time and enjoy. I love my SSD, but again, no lower than 120 GB.

Good Luk


Bought the Win7, TY! done.
as for the MB and cpu, please see heyscotts post, i will go with that ;) 
not sure what your talknig about with the GFX, i think the 660 is fine unless someone else chimes in.
Im really not convinced i need bigger than 64. maybe 80 makes sense. But Ill putting most everything on the 1TB, save for 1 or 2 games I play alot on the SSD, trying to save some money, this seems like the place to do it.
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March 19, 2013 9:17:29 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($72.51 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($219.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Zalman Z5 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VH238H 23.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Other: i5-3570k + Asus p8z77-v lk ($269.98)
Other: You already got windows 7 ($79.99)
Total: $1041.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-20 00:40 EDT-0400)

I would recommend an AMD gpu just because you get a free bioshock infinite code, which you want to play. I gave you an aftermarket cooler so you can oc. You can always take out the aftermarket cooler for now and use the stock cooler, and use the extra money into a SSD.
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March 20, 2013 12:39:54 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/L1XF

Im getting closer here thanks to you guys. but four things:
1. is a bigger cache on a 1TB drive worth $10?
2. is my power supply enough? Will i be at 75% during average gaming?
3. Is the Sandisk good quality? seemed cheap so i splurged $20 dollars to double my size
4. I'm finding it hard to find a case that looks nice, not boring, but not wild, and has front side USB BELOW the external bays, since this wont be on the floor. The dangling wires from the usbs are going get in the way of opening and closing drives.
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March 20, 2013 4:07:25 PM

Remember that you're going to a microcenter so you will save a significant amount of money on the cpu and motherboard (about $80-$100 savings)
Get the xfx 550w psu I posted above. It's more reliable since the Corsair builder is no longer made by seasonic.
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