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March 19, 2013 12:53:33 PM

I am going to build a Rendering/Gaming PC and would like some help on the parts.
I do a lot of Rendering in a program called Blender and it can render with CPU and GPU. But for GPU renering
the GPU has to have CUDA so that means a Nvidia GPU. I also like Gaming (Minecraft,Cryengine,Dirt 3,ect) And this is
My first build.

The CPU that I am considering is a AMD HDT45TWFGRBOX Phenom II X6 1045T Processor - Six Core, 6MB L3 Cache, 3MB L2 Cache, 2.70GHz, Socket AM3, 95W, Fan, Retail but there are not that many Mothermoards
to choose from with the AM3 socket.
So I would also like some help on choosing the CPU to. Blender does support muilti-core as well. And in the future I maybe Overclocking but not yet at least


For the GPU I am considering a Nvidia GTX 650 ti, preferably a 2GB but doesn't have to. Any brand that is good. But i am also considering a GTX 660 Non-ti. And in the future I maybe SLI'ing

Budget Range: 0-550$

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Rendering,Gaming,Video editing,

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, Tiger Direct

Location: Bothell, WA, USA

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

I am upgrading for: Better Gaming and Rendering performance
March 19, 2013 1:38:02 PM

I would advise against the CPU you have selected. It is old and requires an older AM3 mobo (which is why they are hard to find) while all of the new AMD CPU's require AM3+. I had the 1055T before I upgraded to an i5 Intel build and the difference is night and day. Is $550 your max? For the entire PC including monitor and Windows? I only ask because you are going put in at least $90 for Win 7, $150-200 for the GPU and another $100-150 for the monitor. Thats $400-500 right there
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March 19, 2013 1:51:00 PM

Ryan clearly doesn't know what he is talking about. AM3 CPUs work in an AM3+ mobo, just gotta make sure that the AM3+ mobo supports the CPU first.

"The difference is night and day" No. A Pentium II and an Intel 2700K has a night and day difference.

Oh the placebo effect. How we love you so...

@OP I'd help out more, but I live in the UK. $s are useless over here. Sorry. Can't be of any use currency-wise.
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March 19, 2013 1:53:04 PM

ryan5609 said:
I would advise against the CPU you have selected. It is old and requires an older AM3 mobo (which is why they are hard to find) while all of the new AMD CPU's require AM3+. I had the 1055T before I upgraded to an i5 Intel build and the difference is night and day. Is $550 your max? For the entire PC including monitor and Windows? I only ask because you are going put in at least $90 for Win 7, $150-200 for the GPU and another $100-150 for the monitor. Thats $400-500 right there

No it is not the Max willing to add 50-100 to the budget. And is the i5 CPU good with multi-core/thread. And I can find a monitor cheap. with the OS i can use Linux as well.

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March 19, 2013 2:31:49 PM

Also what about PSU, RAM, Case (I have a older one not in use with a 450W PSU but would like to get a new one),GPU, ect
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March 20, 2013 8:00:57 AM

MajinCry said:
Ryan clearly doesn't know what he is talking about. AM3 CPUs work in an AM3+ mobo, just gotta make sure that the AM3+ mobo supports the CPU first.

"The difference is night and day" No. A Pentium II and an Intel 2700K has a night and day difference.

Oh the placebo effect. How we love you so...

@OP I'd help out more, but I live in the UK. $s are useless over here. Sorry. Can't be of any use currency-wise.


I am simply advising against that processor. I had the 1055T and I was not a fan, I use graphics programs such as Photoshop, Flash and Illustrator on a daily basis and the difference was in fact "night and day". While gaming I didn't notice any difference except for a few extra FPS here and there. End of story.
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March 20, 2013 8:19:41 AM

So here is the build I would recommend http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KYU4

Comes out to $552, but it should be a very capable gaming machine and workstation. You are on your own to find a monitor and OS.

A few thing to remember.

Don't skimp on the power supply (Dont go with an off or cheap brand) I am a big far of Corsair in general.
The PSU I provided will probably not have enough power to support many SLI setups.
Just did a build for my work that used the Corsair 200R case, I absolutely loved it.
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March 20, 2013 8:36:26 AM

a gtx 660 will be better for rendering!
in real i dont think this is the right cpu for rendering!in rendering you should look even for a cheap i7 if the budget affords!
however it depends on the work you do

using like mental ray which includes millions of processes you may need a faster cpu!as i said it depends on the work you do!
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March 20, 2013 9:28:07 AM

ryan5609 said:
So here is the build I would recommend http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KYU4

Comes out to $552, but it should be a very capable gaming machine and workstation. You are on your own to find a monitor and OS.

A few thing to remember.

Don't skimp on the power supply (Dont go with an off or cheap brand) I am a big far of Corsair in general.
The PSU I provided will probably not have enough power to support many SLI setups.
Just did a build for my work that used the Corsair 200R case, I absolutely loved it.

I like that build a lot I did upgrade the PSU to a Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V is 80+ Bronze good enough?. And would you change the case to a Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower for the same price with more cooling? or do you like the 200R better. And how is the cooling on the 200R?

Here is my build

thanks a lot
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March 20, 2013 11:14:10 AM

blenderboy said:
ryan5609 said:
So here is the build I would recommend http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KYU4

Comes out to $552, but it should be a very capable gaming machine and workstation. You are on your own to find a monitor and OS.

A few thing to remember.

Don't skimp on the power supply (Dont go with an off or cheap brand) I am a big far of Corsair in general.
The PSU I provided will probably not have enough power to support many SLI setups.
Just did a build for my work that used the Corsair 200R case, I absolutely loved it.

I like that build a lot I did upgrade the PSU to a Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V is 80+ Bronze good enough?. And would you change the case to a Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower for the same price with more cooling? or do you like the 200R better. And how is the cooling on the 200R?

Here is my build

thanks a lot


I think that either case will work just fine for what you need it for, they are very similar and both leave extra room for adding more fans and cooling methods later on, I just found the 200R easy to work with and simplistic.

That PSU will be great for any single GPU on the market and most mid range GPU's in SLi/Crossfire.

One thing I forgot to add, before you buy the 650TI make sure you remember that you cannot SLI the 650TI. SLI is not supported with that card. The Radeon HD 7770 is also a very capable card that does have the ability to crossfire if you want to do that in the future. I like this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a free copy of Far Cry 3 to boot.
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March 20, 2013 12:08:06 PM

Is there any benchmarks that compare the two GPU's?. I know about the 650 ti not being able to SLI but I just wanted to have the feature
In case i upgrade the GPU later. Also no AMD GPU has CUDA right?

Last thing, Is the Radeon HD 7770 a good card or is there a better one for a round the same price?
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March 20, 2013 12:24:59 PM

About the CPU, I currently use a AMD Phenom II x4 840T 2.90 GHz
How big of an upgrade with the Intel Core i5-3350P?

Sorry for asking so many questions, this is my first build
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March 20, 2013 12:39:09 PM

blenderboy said:
Is there any benchmarks that compare the two GPU's?. I know about the 650 ti not being able to SLI but I just wanted to have the feature
In case i upgrade the GPU later. Also no AMD GPU has CUDA right?

Last thing, Is the Radeon HD 7770 a good card or is there a better one for a round the same price?


The 650Ti is a really nice card for that price, it will out perform the 7770 in just about every gaming benchmark. The 7770 is cheaper and can crossfire. But if you want to be able to SLI in the future I wouldn't be too afraid of looking around on Ebay for a great deal. It looks like you could pick up a GTX 570 or 560Ti for a very decent price, easily under $150 for the 560Ti. Stick with EVGA and make the seller give you the serial number information before you buy. You can check it at EVGA's website and verify that it is still under warranty.
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March 20, 2013 1:00:20 PM

ryan5609 said:
blenderboy said:
Is there any benchmarks that compare the two GPU's?. I know about the 650 ti not being able to SLI but I just wanted to have the feature
In case i upgrade the GPU later. Also no AMD GPU has CUDA right?

Last thing, Is the Radeon HD 7770 a good card or is there a better one for a round the same price?


The 650Ti is a really nice card for that price, it will out perform the 7770 in just about every gaming benchmark. The 7770 is cheaper and can crossfire. But if you want to be able to SLI in the future I wouldn't be too afraid of looking around on Ebay for a great deal. It looks like you could pick up a GTX 570 or 560Ti for a very decent price, easily under $150 for the 560Ti. Stick with EVGA and make the seller give you the serial number information before you buy. You can check it at EVGA's website and verify that it is still under warranty.

Is the GTX 560 ti better than the GTX 650 ti? and I think the GTX 570 is better than the 650 ti right

So i just looked on Nvidia's site and the 500 series dont have as many CUDA cores and the 3D rendering Program that I use takes advantage of multi-core AND more CUDA cores so i think i will stick to the 650 ti for now later i will probably upgrade to the GTX 660
unless there is another reason to go with the 500 series.
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March 20, 2013 1:20:32 PM

blenderboy said:
ryan5609 said:
blenderboy said:
Is there any benchmarks that compare the two GPU's?. I know about the 650 ti not being able to SLI but I just wanted to have the feature
In case i upgrade the GPU later. Also no AMD GPU has CUDA right?

Last thing, Is the Radeon HD 7770 a good card or is there a better one for a round the same price?


The 650Ti is a really nice card for that price, it will out perform the 7770 in just about every gaming benchmark. The 7770 is cheaper and can crossfire. But if you want to be able to SLI in the future I wouldn't be too afraid of looking around on Ebay for a great deal. It looks like you could pick up a GTX 570 or 560Ti for a very decent price, easily under $150 for the 560Ti. Stick with EVGA and make the seller give you the serial number information before you buy. You can check it at EVGA's website and verify that it is still under warranty.

Is the GTX 560 ti better than the GTX 650 ti? and I think the GTX 570 is better than the 650 ti right


Yes the 560Ti will usually outperform the 650Ti in most games at 1080p, but the 560Ti requires substantially more power than the 650Ti, same goes for the GTX 570, but the 570 will out perform either card.

You could just get the 650Ti right now and sell it when you are ready to upgrade. I have never had a problem selling my used GPU on Ebay and usually do quite well. Certainly helps take a chunk out of the price of whatever GPU I am upgrading towards.
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March 20, 2013 1:44:57 PM

ryan5609 said:
blenderboy said:
ryan5609 said:
blenderboy said:
Is there any benchmarks that compare the two GPU's?. I know about the 650 ti not being able to SLI but I just wanted to have the feature
In case i upgrade the GPU later. Also no AMD GPU has CUDA right?

Last thing, Is the Radeon HD 7770 a good card or is there a better one for a round the same price?


The 650Ti is a really nice card for that price, it will out perform the 7770 in just about every gaming benchmark. The 7770 is cheaper and can crossfire. But if you want to be able to SLI in the future I wouldn't be too afraid of looking around on Ebay for a great deal. It looks like you could pick up a GTX 570 or 560Ti for a very decent price, easily under $150 for the 560Ti. Stick with EVGA and make the seller give you the serial number information before you buy. You can check it at EVGA's website and verify that it is still under warranty.

Is the GTX 560 ti better than the GTX 650 ti? and I think the GTX 570 is better than the 650 ti right


Yes the 560Ti will usually outperform the 650Ti in most games at 1080p, but the 560Ti requires substantially more power than the 650Ti, same goes for the GTX 570, but the 570 will out perform either card.

You could just get the 650Ti right now and sell it when you are ready to upgrade. I have never had a problem selling my used GPU on Ebay and usually do quite well. Certainly helps take a chunk out of the price of whatever GPU I am upgrading towards.

Thanks that sounds like a good idea, just for a idea what are some of the other GPU's that you have had and how did they preform? and which one is you favorite
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March 20, 2013 1:56:52 PM

blenderboy said:
ryan5609 said:
blenderboy said:
ryan5609 said:
blenderboy said:
Is there any benchmarks that compare the two GPU's?. I know about the 650 ti not being able to SLI but I just wanted to have the feature
In case i upgrade the GPU later. Also no AMD GPU has CUDA right?

Last thing, Is the Radeon HD 7770 a good card or is there a better one for a round the same price?


The 650Ti is a really nice card for that price, it will out perform the 7770 in just about every gaming benchmark. The 7770 is cheaper and can crossfire. But if you want to be able to SLI in the future I wouldn't be too afraid of looking around on Ebay for a great deal. It looks like you could pick up a GTX 570 or 560Ti for a very decent price, easily under $150 for the 560Ti. Stick with EVGA and make the seller give you the serial number information before you buy. You can check it at EVGA's website and verify that it is still under warranty.

Is the GTX 560 ti better than the GTX 650 ti? and I think the GTX 570 is better than the 650 ti right


Yes the 560Ti will usually outperform the 650Ti in most games at 1080p, but the 560Ti requires substantially more power than the 650Ti, same goes for the GTX 570, but the 570 will out perform either card.

You could just get the 650Ti right now and sell it when you are ready to upgrade. I have never had a problem selling my used GPU on Ebay and usually do quite well. Certainly helps take a chunk out of the price of whatever GPU I am upgrading towards.

Thanks that sounds like a good idea, just for a idea what are some of the other GPU's that you have had and how did they preform?


In the past few years I have owned a Powercolor Radeon HD 5770, XFX 6870, XFX 6950 XXX and a XFX 7970 XXX Edition(current) I have also owned a EVGA GTX 580 Superclocked.

Obviously the 7970 and the GTX 580 were the best performing cards. The 7970 will easily run every game at max settings @ 1080p. The GTX 580 could also come to max, but was not always playable. The 6870 and 6950 were also very strong cards, but could not run most games at max settings. The 5770 was good for the time, but is now considered low end. I sold each of the cards on Ebay after I upgraded to a new card. The more you spend the better your performance.
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March 20, 2013 2:09:04 PM

So do you think that i should spend a little more to get a MOBO compatible with SLI now (because the one that I selected doesn't t support it) , or wait until I upgrade the GPU
to a SLI-able card
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March 20, 2013 2:35:39 PM

blenderboy said:
So do you think that i should spend a little more to get a MOBO compatible with SLI now (because the one that I selected doesn't t support it) , or wait until I upgrade the GPU
to a SLI-able card


Absolutely, it should not add on much cost to get a board with SLi capabilities. It is defenatley something you will want to have just incase.
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March 20, 2013 3:33:57 PM

ryan5609 said:
blenderboy said:
So do you think that i should spend a little more to get a MOBO compatible with SLI now (because the one that I selected doesn't t support it) , or wait until I upgrade the GPU
to a SLI-able card


Absolutely, it should not add on much cost to get a board with SLi capabilities. It is defenatley something you will want to have just incase.

This is what i found http://pcpartpicker.com/p/L3Uv
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March 20, 2013 6:50:31 PM

blenderboy said:
ryan5609 said:
blenderboy said:
So do you think that i should spend a little more to get a MOBO compatible with SLI now (because the one that I selected doesn't t support it) , or wait until I upgrade the GPU
to a SLI-able card


Absolutely, it should not add on much cost to get a board with SLi capabilities. It is defenatley something you will want to have just incase.

This is what i found http://pcpartpicker.com/p/L3Uv


That is a micro ATX board, you can use it but there is really no point if you are using a mid tower, it will just limit your expansion options in the future. I just used this mobo http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77pro3 in that build I recently did for my work, it is not as large as a full size board, but I really liked how it fit in the case and how much extra room it gave me. Plus it supports SLi/crossfire
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March 20, 2013 7:00:21 PM

ryan5609 said:
blenderboy said:
ryan5609 said:
blenderboy said:
So do you think that i should spend a little more to get a MOBO compatible with SLI now (because the one that I selected doesn't t support it) , or wait until I upgrade the GPU
to a SLI-able card


Absolutely, it should not add on much cost to get a board with SLi capabilities. It is defenatley something you will want to have just incase.

This is what i found http://pcpartpicker.com/p/L3Uv


That is a micro ATX board, you can use it but there is really no point if you are using a mid tower, it will just limit your expansion options in the future. I just used this mobo http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77pro3 in that build I recently did for my work, it is not as large as a full size board, but I really liked how it fit in the case and how much extra room it gave me. Plus it supports SLi/crossfire

I look on the sites and i didn't see any were that it is SLI compatible? but it can Crossfire where did you see this and any other MOBO's that you can think of?
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March 20, 2013 7:44:35 PM

blenderboy said:
ryan5609 said:
blenderboy said:
ryan5609 said:
blenderboy said:
So do you think that i should spend a little more to get a MOBO compatible with SLI now (because the one that I selected doesn't t support it) , or wait until I upgrade the GPU
to a SLI-able card


Absolutely, it should not add on much cost to get a board with SLi capabilities. It is defenatley something you will want to have just incase.

This is what i found http://pcpartpicker.com/p/L3Uv


That is a micro ATX board, you can use it but there is really no point if you are using a mid tower, it will just limit your expansion options in the future. I just used this mobo http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77pro3 in that build I recently did for my work, it is not as large as a full size board, but I really liked how it fit in the case and how much extra room it gave me. Plus it supports SLi/crossfire

I look on the sites and i didn't see any were that it is SLI compatible? but it can Crossfire where did you see this and any other MOBO's that you can think of?


Sorry I keep forgetting that you are more than likely going to go with an Nvidia GPU. This board http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77extr... supports both methods, it is a bit more expensive, but shouldn't be too many limitations. I am a big fan of ASRock boards, they have a really user friendly BIOS, and their boards really look good.
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March 21, 2013 7:39:04 AM

ryan5609 said:
blenderboy said:
ryan5609 said:
blenderboy said:
ryan5609 said:
blenderboy said:
So do you think that i should spend a little more to get a MOBO compatible with SLI now (because the one that I selected doesn't t support it) , or wait until I upgrade the GPU
to a SLI-able card


Absolutely, it should not add on much cost to get a board with SLi capabilities. It is defenatley something you will want to have just incase.

This is what i found http://pcpartpicker.com/p/L3Uv


That is a micro ATX board, you can use it but there is really no point if you are using a mid tower, it will just limit your expansion options in the future. I just used this mobo http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77pro3 in that build I recently did for my work, it is not as large as a full size board, but I really liked how it fit in the case and how much extra room it gave me. Plus it supports SLi/crossfire

I look on the sites and i didn't see any were that it is SLI compatible? but it can Crossfire where did you see this and any other MOBO's that you can think of?


Sorry I keep forgetting that you are more than likely going to go with an Nvidia GPU. This board http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77extr... supports both methods, it is a bit more expensive, but shouldn't be too many limitations. I am a big fan of ASRock boards, they have a really user friendly BIOS, and their boards really look good.

That Mobo is actually cheaper by a dollar after a promo, plus it is a better Board
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March 21, 2013 10:46:35 AM

Well it looks like you are all set then. Let me know how how everything turns out.
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March 21, 2013 12:39:46 PM

ryan5609 said:
Well it looks like you are all set then. Let me know how how everything turns out.

Will do, Thanks a lot
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