Will my PSU be able to sustain HD 7870 jokerCard XT?

Mano1337

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The title describes it all. I am having a headache about this, I have looked and looked everywhere and can't seem to find something similar to this.

Firstly I will start with my computer's components:

Case: ANTEC Three Hundred -EC (black, no psu, atx)
PSU: ANTEC Earthwatts (500 watt, atx)
MOBO: GIGA-BYTE GA-P55M-UD2 (P55, 2 x pci-e, raid)
CPU: INTEL Core i7 860 (2.8 ghz, 8 mb, s1156, 95 watt, boxed)
RAM: 2X G.SKILL 4GBRM (4096 mb, 1333 mhz, CL8, 1.5 v, non-ecc, unbuffered, kit of 2)
DVD: NEC DVD ReWriter AD-7240S (24x, sata, black)
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 500gb // Caviar green 1TB // WD Green 2TB
CURRENT GPU: SAPPHIRE RADEON HD5770 (850 mhz, 1024 mb, DDR5, 4800 mhz, 128)

Choice of graphics card:

Club 3D Radeon PokerSeries HD 7870 jokerCard XT Limited
I have read alot of reviews about this one and while they are all postive about how the card performs, they are not happy about the consumption. (210W AVG)
And they reccomend a 700W PSU but I really think that is OVERKILL!!!


So after looking to my PSU I noticed that the 12V rails both can handle 17A which results in 34A together. So when we calculate and do 210W/12V we get 17.5A. Does this mean my PSU will not be able to give 210W to my GPU ? Becouse I am quite sure it will take more than 210W. BUT since this card requires two 6PIN (as in 2 times 17A right ???) I can still use my PSU or not ?

PSU stats:
http://www.overclockersonline.net/images/articles/antec/EA500/Large/EW500-2.jpg

I think this is a really nice card, so upgrading from my 5770 to a 7870 tahiti and do some OC will give me a really big bump. I am probably going to add a samsung 840 SSD aswell. Not the PRO since my MOBO will bottleneck it anyway with SATA2.

Conclusion:

This is my story, I THINK my PSU will suffice for the 7870 TAHITI. Maybee just barely. I would like your advise, what would you do ? Buy a new PSU which will be future proof or wait a couple more years when I replace my MOBO & CPU...

I am not sure if my calculations/logic is right, atleast I tried.
Oh and before I forget, I also used the antec PSU calculator ( used 6950 as GPU, and they say it willonly require 430W )

But the one from newegg required me to get a 540W, this is quite confusing!!
Personally I think the PSU calculator from Antec is better since it asks about all the components while the one from newegg doesn't.

Thank you in advance, hopefully we can figure this out together!
 
Solution
For a system using a single reference clocked Radeon HD 7870 (Boost Edition Tahiti LE) graphics card AMD specifies a minimum of a 500 Watt or greater system power supply. The power supply should also have a maximum combined +12 Volt continuous current rating of 33 Amps or greater and have at least two 6-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors.

Total Power Supply Wattage is NOT the crucial factor in power supply selection!!! Sufficient Total Combined Continuous Power/Current Available on the +12V Rail(s) rated at 45°C - 50°C ambient temperature, is the most critical factor.

Overclocking of the CPU and/or GPU(s) will require an additional increase to the maximum combined +12...
Nominal peak gaming power usage is lower at 175w

IMO, you would be streatching your PSU a bit but as long as your refrain from OC the CPU and the GPU, you should be fine.

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Mano1337

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Hello Stickmansam,

Thank you for posting this benchmark,I have now found from a similar review a maximum consumption benchmark (200W http://tpucdn.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7870_jokerCard_Tahiti_LE/images/power_maximum.gif ). I will probably not go this far but I was thinking of doing some little 5% to maybee even 10% overclock. Will you still think that is possible ?
Another question: "As long as you refrain from the OC" I'm sorry but english is not my native language but if google translate is correct I should try it but not push it too far ? (which makes sense)

Hello Imomum,

Thank you for the review link, I actually think this is a good in-depth review. After reading this one I feel more "confortable" in buying the 7870 Joker.

Conclusion:

My PSU can feed the 7870 Joker BUT I have to be carefull with the OC. Maybee I should consider it in the future (when I upgrade the rest of my system) but not now.

What do you think about the Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT ? It has the same Tahiti chip BUT with two fans... which means more cooling and that means better for the GPU on long term right ? While it only costs €10 more.. Hmm .. Interesting!

I am comparing from the following website, and will probably buy my card here aswell since I am very pleased with their service.
http://azerty.nl/0-3921-603805/sapphire-radeon-hd-7870-xt.html
http://azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/3921/576423/club-3d-radeon-pokerseries-hd-7870-jokercard-xt-limited-edition-grafische-kaart-radeon-hd-7870-2-gb-gddr5-pci-express.html

Thank you!
 
For a system using a single reference clocked Radeon HD 7870 (Boost Edition Tahiti LE) graphics card AMD specifies a minimum of a 500 Watt or greater system power supply. The power supply should also have a maximum combined +12 Volt continuous current rating of 33 Amps or greater and have at least two 6-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors.

Total Power Supply Wattage is NOT the crucial factor in power supply selection!!! Sufficient Total Combined Continuous Power/Current Available on the +12V Rail(s) rated at 45°C - 50°C ambient temperature, is the most critical factor.

Overclocking of the CPU and/or GPU(s) will require an additional increase to the maximum combined +12 Volt continuous current ratings, recommended above, to meet the increase in power required for the overclock. The additional amount required will depend on the magnitude of the overclock being attempted.

The Antec EarthWatts 500W (EA-500), with its maximum combined +12 Volt continuous current rating of 34 Amps and with two 6-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors, is sufficient to power your system configuration with a single reference clocked Radeon HD 7870 (Boost Edition Tahiti LE) graphics card.

A core overclock of the Radeon HD 7870 Tahiti LE from 975 MHz up to 1100 MHz (i.e. 12.8% Core OC) increases the power consumption by only around 4 Watts. Nothing to be concerned with.
 
Solution


As ko888 has said, the OC doesn't really increase power consumption as long as it is a mild one. (e.g. ones without any voltage increases)
 

Mano1337

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Firstly: I would like to say a BIG thank you for helping me!!

Secondly: ko888: Good!! I will definatly buy a 7870 tahiti now.
Stickmansam: Yes I will listen to your advice when doing the OC!

Lastly: Sapphire 7870 XT or Club3D 7870 Joker ? THe Sapphire one has better cooling so I think I'll go for that one! What do you think ?