I am buying an outrageous, expensive computer, only to be able to be done with upgrading and buying new computers for a long while. Will this build be able to do it for a while? http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/index.php?action=getprice&id=4015173&platformid=1000
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DarkSable
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Yep. And that's not going to happen. If you upgraded the CPU to a Xeon (The one you have right now is NO better than an i5-3570k for gaming), this computer might last four, five, perhaps six years, if you stay with that monitor.
But new CPUs are coming out, new graphics cards are just around the corner. While these ones won't bring impressive upgrades, two generations from now, tech companies are going to be pushing high-density screens like crazy... and you won't be able to upgrade to one, and you'll want to, desperately.
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It isn't. The only way to ensure a build's longevity is the ability evolve and upgrade as you go along. Limiting expansion or purchasing something that doesn't belong (Xeon) will limit the lifespan of your build. A Xeon has no place in any build other than a server or workstation. It is NOT a gaming CPU. It's only a slight speed increase and you forfeit onboard video. The 3570K can be clocked to match or beat any advertise any stock clock speed, including those on the Xeon.
If you want a monster PC spend it on getting the best GPU you can get. Get this instead:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 TH ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($192.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vector Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($142.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($145.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1891.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-21 17:32 EDT-0400)
Then add a nice 1440P monitor and whatever keyboard and mouse you want.
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But why do you need it for gaming? Unless you play strategy games like Civ V where you're in command of tons of units, you don't need six cores. Most first and third person games use 1 - 2 cores tops and probably won't go over that for several years. It's not a very wise purchase if you ask me, a better GPU would be a better long term investment.
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He can already afford a titan and an i7 - why not go up to something that's guaranteed to be safe? The computer-crusher games like crysis 3 already scale a somewhat incredible amount with a six-core CPU, and if he wants this thing to last as long as possible...
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There really isn't such a thing as a safe guarantee no matter what CPU you buy. You admitted that in a previous post in this very thread I might add, that there's no such thing as future proofing. Which is what I say every time this comes up. So why pay all that money for a six core CPU when it's not really needed? It's definitely a wiser investment than an FX-8300 or FX-6300 but still you won't really use more than 2 or three cores with most games, even Crysis and BF3.
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I concur that "future proofing" is a very dubious concept.
If a player is satisfied with just playing Team Fortress 2 or Civilization IV for the rest of their gaming days, than a future proof PC can be had for $600, give or take, until the thing dies.
If he expects to play the absolute latest games on a "4k" monitor, he better get use to buying new GPUs regularly.
Here's a nice video discussing the concepts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK4ip08auGg
The guy is goofy, but his advice his good.
There are some parts that are more future proof than others, such as the Case, the PSU, and Cooling units. Heck, my surge protector is from the 1980's. I think.
CPU and GPU are probably the least future proof of parts because that technology evolves so quickly.
If a player is satisfied with just playing Team Fortress 2 or Civilization IV for the rest of their gaming days, than a future proof PC can be had for $600, give or take, until the thing dies.
If he expects to play the absolute latest games on a "4k" monitor, he better get use to buying new GPUs regularly.
Here's a nice video discussing the concepts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK4ip08auGg
The guy is goofy, but his advice his good.
There are some parts that are more future proof than others, such as the Case, the PSU, and Cooling units. Heck, my surge protector is from the 1980's. I think.
CPU and GPU are probably the least future proof of parts because that technology evolves so quickly.
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Definitely agree there. If you want to keep up with the latest and greatest expect to buy a new GPU every year - year and a half.
That's why I never encourage people to buy cheap junk when it comes to cases and power supplies. Perhaps the two most crucial components of the system. And I'm real surprised when people don't care about either part until the build is over $1200, then you get into a lot of debate about how one part is better than the other, how some OEMs are better than others, etc, etc.
Ok, i have decided to somewhat go with g-unit's suggestion of a build. Thanks for clarifying that future proofing is impossible. Is their anyway you can redo the build on ncix pc builder website since I am not trusted to put a build together myself? And i preferably want to go with a asus mobo instead.
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