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So I'm looking to purchase a new Rig to put together and give this old rig to my brother, I'm looking for a decent performance increase from my old build, And ill start with my old build:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz
XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB
XFX XXX Edition P1-650X-CAG9 650W ATX12V
Scythe SCKTN-3000 92mm Sleeve "KATANA3"
HAF 932 (not the one with the nice black interior unfortunately)

This new build needs to be a decent upgrade over the old system as I am beginning to struggle on some of the new releases, my budget is around 1100$, and I do not need a mouse keyboard headset or monitor, just the base tower and components, excluding the HDD as I already have a standard 1TB WD Black, however an SSD within the budget would be a nice addition, And I still have an optical drive for burning that is really good. Ive always been using single GPU's, since I always hear such horrible stories about driver issues with SLI and Crossfire.

I was thinking something along these lines, however I would like to get a couple opinions.

1920x1080 single monitor gaming only.

Case:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119260
Mobo:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128583
GPU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150605
PSU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010
CPU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
Mem:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233299
HS:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

So Toms-wizards, grace me with your wisdom.
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  1. 1) I'd spend less on the case - after $80-100, you get rapidly diminishing returns on build quality.

    2) That's a very expensive motherboard, and a waste for what you're doing. Get a -UD3H or, better yet, an AsRock z77 Extreme 4. They'll behave the same and be much cheaper.

    3) Oh give me a break. You're going to spend $150 on the case and $170 on the motherboard, but only $250 on a graphics card with an i5? The rule of thumb is to spend twice on the GPU what you do on the CPU - so with a -3570k, you're looking at a GTX 670 or a 7970 HD. If you can't afford that, back down to an h77 motherboard, an i5-3350p, and a 7870 XT or 7950.

    4) More overkill! Yaaaay! Unless you're planning on having two graphics cards, which is silly with 7870s, you only need a 550w power supply.

    5) That's a great processor, good pick. Don't talk yourself into buying an i7 - this performs EXACTLY as well for gaming.

    6) 16GB is, again, overkill. 8GB is enough to run battlefield 3, photoshop, and 30 tabs in chrome all at once.

    7) Great pick on the heatsink - that thing is amazing.

    (Also, where's your hard drive?)
    So, yeah... you're overspending on a lot of places and not spending enough on the graphics card. My picks for that budget would look like this:
    PCPartPicker part list /

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.46 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
    Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($358.98 @ Newegg)
    Case: BitFenix Ghost (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($66.99 @ Amazon)
    Total: $1078.36
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    I would build something like this

    3570 with 212 EVO
    UD3H only loses out in a bit of IO, same great 6 phases digital power delivery (extreme 4 only has 4 analog phases[ they are doubled to look like 8 but act as 4])
    128GB ssd +2TB hdd
    7870XT, same price as most 7870 but 9-10% faster, pretty much like the 7950 non-boost [7970/670 as 20-25% faster but cost $150 more]
    Stuck with your case
    XFX seasonic made 750W Bronze semi-modular (assuming CFX or SLI, get XFX 550W if not)
    1866mhz ram as it is only $2 more than 1600mhz

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($54.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($234.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($137.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $1103.88
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-22 01:46 EDT-0400)

    7950 boost 10-15% faster than 7870XT and only $50 more
    Cheaper but still great case with black interior :)
    Still CFX/SLI PSU

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($54.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $1100.88
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-22 01:52 EDT-0400)

    Cutting out an SSD and HDD gets you 2x 7870XT (not liking the price/perf of the 7970/670/7970ghz/680 right now)

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($54.99 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($234.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($234.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $1100.90
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-22 01:54 EDT-0400)
  3. dominick1233 said:
    So I'm looking to purchase a new Rig to put together and give this old rig to my brother, I'm looking for a decent performance increase from my old build, And ill start with my old build:
    G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)
    AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz
    XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB
    XFX XXX Edition P1-650X-CAG9 650W ATX12V
    Scythe SCKTN-3000 92mm Sleeve "KATANA3"
    HAF 932 (not the one with the nice black interior unfortunately)

    This new build needs to be a decent upgrade over the old system as I am beginning to struggle on some of the new releases, my budget is around 1100$, and I do not need a mouse keyboard headset or monitor, just the base tower and components, excluding the HDD as I already have a standard 1TB WD Black, however an SSD within the budget would be a nice addition, And I still have an optical drive for burning that is really good. Ive always been using single GPU's, since I always hear such horrible stories about driver issues with SLI and Crossfire.

    I was thinking something along these lines, however I would like to get a couple opinions.

    Case:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119260
    Mobo:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128583
    GPU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150605
    PSU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010
    CPU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
    Mem:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233299
    HS:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

    So Toms-wizards, grace me with your wisdom.



    These guys have some great advice for your build... My only addition is to use your old ram and your old psu to save cash, get the asrock extreme4 or asus v lk board to save more cash and use that cash to get a gtx 670...You wont regret it!
    Also, get the case you want, cause it is you who needs to be happy with it... just remember, the stryker is big and you will have allot of room inside your case...You may need an extention or two for your cpu power cable etc.


  4. rmiiirusty said:

    These guys have some great advice for your build... My only addition is to use your old ram and your old psu to save cash, get the asrock extreme4 or asus v lk board to save more cash and use that cash to get a gtx 670...You wont regret it!
    Also, get the case you want, cause it is you who needs to be happy with it... just remember, the stryker is big and you will have allot of room inside your case...You may need an extention or two for your cpu power cable etc.


    He's given his build to his bro so unfortunately not options on the ram and psu
  5. stickmansam said:
    rmiiirusty said:

    These guys have some great advice for your build... My only addition is to use your old ram and your old psu to save cash, get the asrock extreme4 or asus v lk board to save more cash and use that cash to get a gtx 670...You wont regret it!
    Also, get the case you want, cause it is you who needs to be happy with it... just remember, the stryker is big and you will have allot of room inside your case...You may need an extention or two for your cpu power cable etc.


    He's given his build to his bro so unfortunately not options on the ram and psu



    Oh, your right on that, didn't remember reading that,lol
  6. Yes indeed, my brother is/has been using a shitty 2001 e machines to game on all this time without even a dedicated graphics card, so ill be handing this over to my brother.
  7. Ended up going with http://pcpartpicker.com/user/dominick1233/saved/1njl

    Thank you guys for all the suggestions, I decided to go with a flashier case because well I like them :)

    Total ended up being $1,068.74 with shipping, all purchased through newegg, could've been cheaper had I ordered from different locations but I pretty much just said fuck it and ordered it all from newegg.
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