New WorkStation Build $1200+/- Guidance Please

SailorKXT_ATO

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Greetings! I’m Mike, and I’m a Lurk-a-Holic. I’ve accepted the fact I needed to register and seek guidance from the wise 

I will try to provide as much detail as I can, but I would like to introduce the short and sweet version of my conceptual build, and I will provide more details and history at the bottom. I need help to avoid “going over the top” and suggestions in correct component utilization for our needs.
I am replacing my current build (from early 2007) for a quality home based Workstation PC with the potential to last many years from now and houses the ability for AutoCAD 2013, Revit, Adobe Acrobat Pro Xl, LiveCycle Designer ES5(for design only), Perhaps CS# in the future, Internet Surfing/Lurking TomsHardware, STRONG Multitasking. My wife will be using the AutoCAD and Revit when she wants to take her work home. As of now, she does not do serious rendering, but does 3D none the less. She says the current system is sufficient (Intel D975xbx2, 8gb DDR2, Q6700, MSI 8800 GTS). I will be using everything else, am also trying to learn basic programming (20 years later, again) I haven’t gamed in 5-6 years, not really important but the option would be nice.

Budget Range: Approx. $1,000 +/- $300 (ideally) I have the money, I just don’t want to buy a $50,000 Dodge Charger to take the kids to Chucky Cheese.

Approximate Purchase Date: I would like to complete the build be the end of April. Ideally, I would like to use the current rig as a home based NAS.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: , Adobe Acrobat Pro Xl, AutoCAD 2013, Revit, LiveCycle Designer ES5, Perhaps CS# in the future, Internet Surfing/Lurking TomsHardware, STRONG Multitasking

Are you buying a monitor: Just Purchased Dell UltraSharp U2412m 1900x1200 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260047

Parts to Upgrade: Need Guidance: GPU Currently have MSI 8800 GTS, considering reusing. PSU Can’t recall make/model. It is 750w non-modular. It was extremely popular in ’06-’07. Seems to be running fine, but it’s old, and I don’t like all the extra cabling. Would prefer a modular unit. Case Antec 900 v1. I like it, however I LOATH the cable management. I don’t need all the lights and flare. I would prefer Good Cable Management, access to both sides of the MoBo, decent work room, tool less HDD/SDD swap, good air flow. I have big hands and butterfingers, FWIW.
Do you need to buy OS: No I own a copy of Win 7 Premium with an unused Win 8 upgrade at bay.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I love and have been loyal to Newegg, however, open to alternative options from partspicker.

Location: Knoxville, TN, USA
Parts Preferences: I Prefer Intel, but not closed minded to AMD options.
Overclocking: Maybe: I would like to have to option and to learn more about it by trial and error, worried about losing VT technology for overclocking option.
SLI or Crossfire: Maybe/ probably not

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200 I am upgrading to a dell 24” 1920x1200. I desire the extra real estate, and I believe this is ideal for my build. Still own 2 19” 19x4’s

Additional Comments: I have been looking at a lot of other post, and I am debating between i7-3770, i7-3770k, and 3750k with a variation of z77 mobo. It seems a workstation GPU is the same as a gaming with strict drivers, which, can be managed with modern hardware but without the cost. I need some guidance on that as well. I would like no less than 16gb RAM to avoid headache upgrading ram in the future (lesson learned), and a case that is manageable and efficient. It doesn’t have to be a flash in the pan, but decent and mature in thought.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: THE LONG STORY. I just finished upgrading my Intel D975xbx2 MoBo with an SSD, maxed out DDR2, and a Q6700 from E6400 in hopes to extend its life, which, I believe would have been fine. While doing that, I was trying to use an old “Goldfish” MoBo with a P5 LG775 as my new NAS using NAS4FREE and FREENAS. As it turns out, the P5 just couldn’t handle the traffic, and would crash and burn. My dilemma was either build a new low budget i3 NAS or use my existing system as the NAS and have a new system “take the watch” so to speak. I have decided that it may cost more up front, it is more cost effective long term. I’m pretty much asking for advice on a new system build with and some reassurance that my old build (with either the E6400 or Q6700) will be a good NAS.

I would like to apologize ahead of time if I am of bad ettic, grammar, or description and would greatly appreciate your guidance and help.
 

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with $1000 and a MSI 8800 GTS already in hand you can build a great computer.

Get a intel mobo (read reviews, and choose) for about $70-160
and a i7 3770k
8gb ram, corsair or any respectable company.
700 watts or more psu
ssd
10000rpm velocraptor hdd 32mb cache
good cpu cooling
and a 100$ case.

not too much in detail but you get the idea.
choose to what meets your preference but just showing a quick start.
 

SailorKXT_ATO

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Andy, thank you. You believe the 3770k is the better choice? I already have an 840 SSD laying around, and a several 1TB HDD's to choose from. I was leaning towards the 3770k. Any suggestions on the case and mobo? There are so many options. Looking for good Cable Management and access. I will be running AutoCAD 2013 (the most demanding program). Knoxville, TN, United States is the country of origin.
 
Something like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($90.64 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $986.57
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-23 00:10 EDT-0400)
The gpu should be better than you gts8800. The i7-3770k + ASRock Extreme4 allows for overclocking, but you'll want an aftermarket cooler for that. The minimum 16gb of ram and you said you have tons of hdd and a ssd already. The gtx670 can game and run autocad. The NZXT Phantom 410 is a nice case that offers good airflow and clean cable management. A good quality 550w psu to run it all.
 

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Maybe something like this:

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory

SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC

ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI

Intel Core i7-3770K

GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

NZXT Phantom 410 CA-PH410-W1 White Steel / Plastic ATX Mid

Total: $1300


 

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Do away with OC for a $1200 workstation build or go with AMD.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1220 V2 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($82.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Silverline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.54 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V5800 1GB Video Card ($367.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1051.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-23 15:45 EDT-0400)

went with a workstation card because that is what it seems like what you will be doing most the time. If you do gaming the 670 is also a good choice for a mixture of gaming and work.

will be doing AMD alternative in a bit

EDIT: forgot to switch to W series card
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195119
$100 more though if you would like a more up to date card
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek GAIA SD1283 56.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($119.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($93.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V5900 2GB Video Card ($424.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1134.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-23 15:52 EDT-0400)

AMD alternative.

Also the 7970 is actually not that bad for professional stuff like maya where it actually beats the 670 in
 

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Do you all think I should wait until Haswell is released, due to the new chipset. I am very intrigued with the AMD FX option. My wife doesn't do anything hardcore on AutoCAD, I guess basically aluminum design and structure. Will there be a noticeable performance difference between , say, the i3770k, i3770, i3570, or 8350? Any other opinions on the the XEON suggested by boulbox? Which option would be the most future resistant?
 

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If your wife is not doing anything hardcore, you do not really need top of the line stuff. Xeon would be the best choice IMO because it is pretty much a locked i7 or go with the 8350 because it is a great all rounder type of CPU.

You can wait for Haswell for some price drops but i do not think getting haswell will give that much more performance than any of these recent CPUs