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March 23, 2013 12:18:27 AM

hello,
i recently decided to build my own pc but i need help with compatability and not sure what psu or cpu cooler to look into as im a noob. first build :) 

CPU - intel 17 3770k
MOTHERBOARD - asus p8z77 deluxe
GPU - gtx 690
RAM - ripjaw 16gb(4x4) DDR3 2133 mhz
STORAGE - seagate barracuda 3tb 3.5 internal drive
-samsung 840 pro series 256gb ssd
OPTICAL DRIVE- asus BC 12b1st multipurpose optical drive
PSU-???
CPU COOLER??? preferably water cooled
CASE??? - i like the corsair carbide series 500r but not sure if compatable if not something similar??
MONITOR- i would like to run two monitors one bigger monitor for games and another one for email/web surfing/fb/other os stuff

Any suggestions would be a great help. Im not really concerned on price
thanks in advance,


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March 23, 2013 1:11:45 AM

This is for what, gaming?

If so, well... you're making a LOT of mistakes.
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March 23, 2013 2:06:55 AM

DarkSable said:
This is for what, gaming?

If so, well... you're making a LOT of mistakes.


yes this is for gaming/watching dvds/internet browsing
Mostly gaming tho. i want something that works well. cost is not really a factor. what mistakes can i change?

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March 23, 2013 12:47:08 PM

Lol what you want to upgrade
A 2nd gtx690 ? :) 
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March 23, 2013 2:01:42 PM

For a system using a single GeForce GTX 690 graphics card NVIDIA specifies a minimum of a 650 Watt or greater system power supply that has a maximum combined +12 Volt continuous current rating of 46 Amps or greater and that has at least two 8-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors.

For a system using two GeForce GTX 690 graphics cards in 2-way Quad SLI mode NVIDIA specifies a minimum of a 950 Watt or greater system power supply that has a maximum combined +12 Volt continuous current rating of 76 Amps or greater and that has at least four 8-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors.

Total Power Supply Wattage is NOT the crucial factor in power supply selection!!! Total Combined Continuous Power/Current Available on the +12V Rail(s) rated at 45°C - 50°C ambient temperature, is the most important factor.

Overclocking of the CPU and/or GPU(s) will require an additional increase to the maximum combined +12 Volt continuous current ratings, recommended above, to meet the increase in power required for the overclock. The additional amount required will depend on the magnitude of the overclock being attempted.

Is 2-way Quad SLI in your future upgrade plans?
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March 23, 2013 3:49:55 PM

mike6713 said:
cost is not really a factor. what mistakes can i change?


Even if cost isn't a factor, why pay more for little to no increase in performance?

For what you're doing, you're paying twice as much for NO extra performance at 1080p.

Look at something like this:

Processor: i5-3570k (For gaming, this performs EXACTLY the same as that i7.)
Motherboard: AsRock z77 Extreme 6
Graphics: GTX 670 (this is more than enough to run basically any game maxxed out at 1080p and 60Hz.)
Memory: 8GB (2x4GB) of DDR 3 1600, Cas 9, 1.5v (Enough to run battlefield 3, photoshop, AND 30 tabs in chrome all at once.)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2TB and 840 PRO 128. (The pro is faster and more reliable, and is plenty to store your OS, applications, and the few games that actually benefit from being on an SSD - most of them don't matter.)
Optical: well, it's whatever. Think about if you even need one if you install windows from a USB stick.
Power supply: for a 670, get a 550w of a reputable brand.
Cooler: Do NOT get a "water cooled" all-in-one kit. They cool worse than cheaper air coolers, they break WAY more often and with worse results. If you water cool, do real water cooling. If not, a Hyper 212 EVO is MORE than enough.
Case: Get whatever you choose. Mid-ATX or full, but I suggest mid just for the size.

Monitor: Keep something in mind. With two monitors, if you're gaming in full screen on one, the other doesn't matter AT ALL, because you won't be able to move your mouse over to it without alt-tabbing out of the game anyways. Get a single, nice monitor - such as an ASUS or BenQ, that's 22-24" and 1920x1080.
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March 24, 2013 2:19:05 AM

DarkSable said:
mike6713 said:
cost is not really a factor. what mistakes can i change?


Even if cost isn't a factor, why pay more for little to no increase in performance?

For what you're doing, you're paying twice as much for NO extra performance at 1080p.

Look at something like this:

Processor: i5-3570k (For gaming, this performs EXACTLY the same as that i7.)
Motherboard: AsRock z77 Extreme 6
Graphics: GTX 670 (this is more than enough to run basically any game maxxed out at 1080p and 60Hz.)
Memory: 8GB (2x4GB) of DDR 3 1600, Cas 9, 1.5v (Enough to run battlefield 3, photoshop, AND 30 tabs in chrome all at once.)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2TB and 840 PRO 128. (The pro is faster and more reliable, and is plenty to store your OS, applications, and the few games that actually benefit from being on an SSD - most of them don't matter.)
Optical: well, it's whatever. Think about if you even need one if you install windows from a USB stick.
Power supply: for a 670, get a 550w of a reputable brand.
Cooler: Do NOT get a "water cooled" all-in-one kit. They cool worse than cheaper air coolers, they break WAY more often and with worse results. If you water cool, do real water cooling. If not, a Hyper 212 EVO is MORE than enough.
Case: Get whatever you choose. Mid-ATX or full, but I suggest mid just for the size.

Monitor: Keep something in mind. With two monitors, if you're gaming in full screen on one, the other doesn't matter AT ALL, because you won't be able to move your mouse over to it without alt-tabbing out of the game anyways. Get a single, nice monitor - such as an ASUS or BenQ, that's 22-24" and 1920x1080.


thanks for the answer. i no im new to all this but will this motherboard be better than the asus p8z77 deluxe for overclocking. i was thinking of getting the 680 sli. i think i would also like to play on 2560 x 1600 if possible.
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March 24, 2013 2:21:04 AM

ko888 said:
For a system using a single GeForce GTX 690 graphics card NVIDIA specifies a minimum of a 650 Watt or greater system power supply that has a maximum combined +12 Volt continuous current rating of 46 Amps or greater and that has at least two 8-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors.

For a system using two GeForce GTX 690 graphics cards in 2-way Quad SLI mode NVIDIA specifies a minimum of a 950 Watt or greater system power supply that has a maximum combined +12 Volt continuous current rating of 76 Amps or greater and that has at least four 8-pin PCI Express supplementary power connectors.

Total Power Supply Wattage is NOT the crucial factor in power supply selection!!! Total Combined Continuous Power/Current Available on the +12V Rail(s) rated at 45°C - 50°C ambient temperature, is the most important factor.

Overclocking of the CPU and/or GPU(s) will require an additional increase to the maximum combined +12 Volt continuous current ratings, recommended above, to meet the increase in power required for the overclock. The additional amount required will depend on the magnitude of the overclock being attempted.

Is 2-way Quad SLI in your future upgrade plans?


thanks for the informative answer! i think i may go with the 680's instead
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March 24, 2013 10:59:55 AM

mike6713 said:

thanks for the informative answer! i think i may go with the 680's instead


SLI is a good option, but don't go with 680s.

A 680 is only 5% faster than a 670, but it's 25-30% more expensive.

That being said, neither of those is what you want. For playing on such a large resolution, go buy a 7970 - you can grab a second to put in crossfire should you need later, but it should do what you want just fine.

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