7970 or 670

Alvin1 · Mar 23, 2013

http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=751369&CKS=PCW :GTX 670

http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=660801&CKS=PCW :Radeon 7970

Which of these graphics cards would be better for the price? I am not sure if i will overclock cuz im a noob and i am only using 1 1080p monitor atm.

imomun · Mar 23, 2013

Go for the 7970 RAW POWER !
670 CANT MATCH!

atomicWAR · Mar 23, 2013

the 7970 will get more FPS in most games. but (there always is one) hd 7000 series cards have some frame latency issues...so while your FPS will be higher in most, not all, games it will still look choppy. Amd has patched some games already and more on the way. also i find amd drivers to be a little wonky...especially in multi gpu set-ups. so if u ever plan on that...go nvidia.

A gtx 670 has no such issues. i have two and love them. personally i would go for the reasons i mentioned. its cheaper, high performance and has the added bounce of physx support...games like border lands 2 look a lot better for it. ultimately its a personal preference thing.

jdw_swb · Mar 23, 2013

The 7970 is the better card.

atomicWAR · Mar 23, 2013

jdw_swb :

disagree....depends one what games...

check these
http://www.overclock.net/t/1307595/gtx-670-vs-hd-7970/10
http://www.wsgf.org/book/export/html/23184

jdw_swb · Mar 23, 2013

atomicWAR :

Yeah...I don't think so. The 7970 trades blows the the GTX 680.

atomicWAR · Mar 23, 2013

the 7970 ghz edition trades blows with the gtx 680 yes...but the none ghz edition trades blows with the gtx 670 as said benches state.

jdw_swb · Mar 23, 2013

This GPU Hierarchy Chart disagrees with you.

atomicWAR · Mar 23, 2013

jdw_swb :

as the ones i showed you disagree with you. i rather not argue and side track the thread any more. benchmarks can change driver release to driver release. i am not arguing that a 7970 (non ghz) is a good card and can best a gtx 670 in some games but you cannot say a gtx 670 never bests a 7970...for the cards he showed and there prices...its not a bad deal.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-review,3200-5.html since you used toms here one from toms as well again saying what i have been saying.

yummerzzz · Mar 23, 2013

atomicWAR :

Sorry but, that review is basically invalid.

Look at the date of that review, the Never Settle Drivers (12.7(?)) and above have increased AMD's performance gargantuously. That review was done with 12.4 Drivers.

jdw_swb · Mar 23, 2013

atomicWAR :

From May 2012?! :no:

The gains made by AMD drivers were huge between that time period and now. Also, these are at stock...the 7950/7970 are better overclockers than the 670.

atomicWAR · Mar 23, 2013

yummerzzz :

fair enough i did not see the dates on that one... but had others i showed and here's another

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/508?vs=598

again don't mistake me...the 7970 is more powerful...i am saying the gtx 670 is capable of trading blows on certain games and for the prices he listed is competitive.

bystander · Mar 23, 2013

Higher FPS is one thing, how smooth and consistent they perform is another.

http://techreport.com/review/23981/radeon-hd-7950-vs-geforce-gtx-660-ti-revisited/11
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-TITAN-Performance-Review-and-Frame-Rating-Update/Frame-Rat
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/60166-nvidia-gtx-titan-vs-sli-crossfire-15.html

None of those are a direct comparison to the 7970 and 670, but they do expose a lot of things you should be aware of.

huilun02 · Mar 23, 2013

I'm using a Sapphire 7950 Boost Edition
Passively overclocked to 1050Mhz core and 1450MHz memory at stock voltage, with MSI Afterburner
Stable on any benchmark test I throw at it. Doesn't go past 60 degrees celcius
That's as fast as the 7970 GHz Edition...

Herp derp.

atomicWAR · Mar 23, 2013

bystander :

thank you! i tried to bring up latency and it went ignored.

bystander · Mar 23, 2013

I wouldn't have mentioned anything had they not gone on and on about FPS comparisons.

I have been using both companies, and mostly ignored these issues, thinking they were an issue with the game as a result of loading new zones. It turns out the GPU does play a big part in limiting it. While it is something that many people can kind of ignore and won't bother them, the whole point in making the best choice for yourself is to get the best experience for your money. FPS is only one metric.

atomicWAR · Mar 23, 2013

my point exactly...

jdw_swb · Mar 23, 2013

atomicWAR :

The latency levels experienced in the latest games have been greatly improved to the point where neither nvidia or amd have an advantage.

bystander · Mar 23, 2013

jdw_swb :

Only one of those 3 links were before the latest beta drivers. It is being improved, it has not been fixed and latency is not the only factor to consider.

How much variance in latency is likely a bigger issue than latency itself, as well as how well it sync's up to the action.

Souv_90 · Mar 28, 2013

7950 a better card than 670 at way lower price
even before never settled driver released an 1.2 ghz 7950 pounded a 1.3 ghz 670 real bad...

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/23/galaxy_gtx_660_ti_gc_oc_vs_670_hd_7950/2#.UVPiolfx_c2
if you want i can send you other benchmarks where 7950 beats 670 at way lesser price and 7970 beats 680 at way lesser price...

Mephic · Mar 28, 2013

7970/7950 will be the brawler cards here (although I will keep repeating - 2013 chips are not that good overclockers as 2012, two died on me + I have spoke to many computer services in my city and they all keep repeating - "don't go AMD this year, all we do now is taking RMA's" - it may be issue only in my country but I'm not 100% sure.

Still, if we will assume that You will get a good chip - 670 is comparable to 7950. Both cards are really good, it depends what You want to use them for. But for 1080p I'd say: stick with GTX 670. It's a great performer, has more cool features than AMD and it's very good overclocker (if You know how to overclock Kepler - there is a great guide for it).
7950 for anything over 1080p due to wider memory bandwidth. You have absolutely no guarantee that Your 7950 will OC to 1200 MHz (I had two of them - Asus and Gigabyte, first one couldn't go over 1100, second one over 1000 which was basically a tragic chip). Same goes for 670.

And don't look at the benchmarks - check real game usage. You play games not benchmarks, right?

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