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i5-3570k+gtx650ti vs fx6300+gtx660

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March 23, 2013 8:02:28 AM

WHAAAT do you think? Gaming (I also though in i3-3220+gtx660, but here i'm pretty sure that the fx is better). If overclock, only just a tiny bit with the stock cooler.

Monitor will PROBABLY be full HD (1080p i think)
March 23, 2013 8:05:50 AM

The fx6300 with the gtx 660 would get you better frames. Go with that if your wanting a better gaming build.
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March 23, 2013 8:17:06 AM

what are the prices of core i5 3570k+radeon hd 7850 1gb combo at your location? compare that to fx6300+gtx660 combo. if the 3570k+ 7850 1gb price is close to the fx combo, the i5 combo will have slight advantage in 1080p gaming. for example, if you have access to microcenter, a core i5 3570k+ radeon 7850 becomes more feasible.
in terms of gaming performance, there is core i5 has significant advantage over fx but gtx660 is quite a bit more powerful than gtx650ti.
if you're not gonna overclock or stick with the stock cooler, check out how much core i5 3470/3550+ radeon hd 7850 2gb cost.
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March 23, 2013 8:33:23 AM

i3 + 7870 XT would beat all these setups. GPU is much more important for gaming than CPU, so you don't really want to be spending more on the CPU than the GPU as is the case for a lot of these. The i5 for example is only 10-15% better than an i3 for gaming, a 7870 XT vs a 650 Ti... The AMD is maybe twice as fast, at least.

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March 23, 2013 8:35:36 AM

Here is the situation:

Games use the GPU more than any other component.

Every single other activity you can use a PC for uses the CPU much more than the GPU.

Choose!

Also, keep in mind that there are a handful of games (Valve comes to mind) and gaming like applications(http://dolphin-emulator.com/) that are heavily CPU bound.

That, and its usually easier to buy and install a new GPU as oppose to replacing a CPU, since you are limited to your socket and have to deal with thermal grease and what not.

So, I seem to be leaning one way, aren't I? Still, its your build and the above poster was right in saying if you want better performance for games now, then it might make more sense to get the high end GPU. Also makes sense to get if you are using an expensive "4k" monitor which needs as much GPU power as possible to maintain frame rates as native resolution.

Still, no matter which you chose you will get a pretty powerful PC.
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March 23, 2013 9:05:57 AM

So should i go i3/fx6300?
And is better i3/fx6300+660 or i5+650ti/7850
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March 23, 2013 9:13:50 AM

Enderegg said:
So should i go i3/fx6300?
And is better i3/fx6300+660 or i5+650ti/7850

core i5 + 7850 is better than i3/fx+gtx 660. but if you couple gtx 650ti with the i5, favor goes to fx, not i3.
first, check the component prices.
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March 23, 2013 9:28:24 AM

i don't mind going amd. just prefer nvidia. but i'll go to the best performance/price in my price range.
Going i5-3570+7850 goes just about the same as fx6300+660
BTW, how many whats do i need if i latter want to add a 7870? (with the i5)
And should i go to the 1 or 2 gb version of the 7850?
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March 23, 2013 10:09:39 AM

Enderegg said:
i don't mind going amd. just prefer nvidia. but i'll go to the best performance/price in my price range.
Going i5-3570+7850 goes just about the same as fx6300+660
BTW, how many whats do i need if i latter want to add a 7870? (with the i5)
And should i go to the 1 or 2 gb version of the 7850?

if core i5 3570K+ radeon hd 7850 cost the same/similar/close as fx6300+gtx660, then core i5 is better choice right now. keep in mind that core i5's lga1155 platform is dead end i.e. you won't be able to upgrade your cpu beyond core i7 3770k in the future. you will need to buy a new cpu and motherboard to get a faster cpu. amd is silent about fx's platform's (am3+) future but many think that upcoming 28nm steamroller cpus will fit current motherboards.

2 gb version is better. especially if you cfx later and crank up aa settings.

by 'whats' i think you mean power supply watts, yes? a core i5 3570k+ radeon hd 7850 2gb gddr5 can run off a quality 500w psu like seasonic s12ii 520w or corsair tx650 v2 depending on your budget. if you add a 7870 later i.e. run the combo as 2x radeon hd 7850, then a corsair tx750 v2 would be better. you can run the cards off a lesser psu if you use molex to pcie power converter. however, the 750 v2 has 4x 6+2 pin pcie power connectors, enough for running 2x 7870s.
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March 23, 2013 10:22:11 AM

de5_Roy said:
Enderegg said:
i don't mind going amd. just prefer nvidia. but i'll go to the best performance/price in my price range.
Going i5-3570+7850 goes just about the same as fx6300+660
BTW, how many whats do i need if i latter want to add a 7870? (with the i5)
And should i go to the 1 or 2 gb version of the 7850?

if core i5 3570K+ radeon hd 7850 cost the same/similar/close as fx6300+gtx660, then core i5 is better choice right now. keep in mind that core i5's lga1155 platform is dead end i.e. you won't be able to upgrade your cpu beyond core i7 3770k in the future. you will need to buy a new cpu and motherboard to get a faster cpu. amd is silent about fx's platform's (am3+) future but many think that upcoming 28nm steamroller cpus will fit current motherboards.

2 gb version is better. especially if you cfx later and crank up aa settings.

by 'whats' i think you mean power supply watts, yes? a core i5 3570k+ radeon hd 7850 2gb gddr5 can run off a quality 500w psu like seasonic s12ii 520w or corsair tx650 v2 depending on your budget. if you add a 7870 later i.e. run the combo as 2x radeon hd 7850, then a corsair tx750 v2 would be better. you can run the cards off a lesser psu if you use molex to pcie power converter. however, the 750 v2 has 4x 6+2 pin pcie power connectors, enough for running 2x 7870s.


i wont by the 3570. i'll buy the 4670
Forgot to mention, but it will be about the same price, so, is just to have an idea. I didn't understand the wattage that i need. I know 650w are enough, but i can i lower? Should i go higher? And pls tell me a psu that has 4 6pin connectors and that's about 65£
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March 23, 2013 10:45:58 AM

Enderegg said:

i wont by the 3570. i'll buy the 4670
Forgot to mention, but it will be about the same price, so, is just to have an idea. I didn't understand the wattage that i need. I know 650w are enough, but i can i lower? Should i go higher? And pls tell me a psu that has 4 6pin connectors and that's about 65£

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that was a hell of a switcheroo, from ivy bridge to haswell...in that case, you should check back when 4670k cpus start selling. prices change every day.

just in case, you should know that if you had bought a core i3 3220 + gtx660/7870-xt you couldn't have upgraded to a 4670 or 4670k as haswell cpus are not backwards compatible with ivy bridge motherboards (different pin counts among other stuff).

haswell prices are still unknown atm.

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March 23, 2013 11:01:45 AM

de5_Roy said:

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that was a hell of a switcheroo, from ivy bridge to haswell...in that case, you should check back when 4670k cpus start selling. prices change every day.

just in case, you should know that if you had bought a core i3 3220 + gtx660/7870-xt you couldn't have upgraded to a 4670 or 4670k as haswell cpus are not backwards compatible with ivy bridge motherboards (different pin counts among other stuff).

haswell prices are still unknown atm.



i know there are not backwords compatible. the prices should be just about the same. with this crisis maybe even lower
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March 23, 2013 11:06:58 AM

Enderegg said:

i know there are not backwords compatible. the prices should be just about the same. with this crisis maybe even lower

unlikely, in my opinion. iirc, with cougar point sata i bug (rumors say haswell's usb 3.0 bug is less severe), intel didn't reduce sandy bridge prices.
intel will raise (instead of lowering) haswell prices in this way: they'll say that they are being cautious as to not hurt customer perception of lga1150 platform by slowing down the launch. since availability may be lower than usual, retailers might raise cpu, mobo prices. it's all in the future though. who knows what'll happen when the new lineup does come out. generally, it's better to keep expectations low.
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March 23, 2013 11:19:41 AM

if the prices raise to much i will have no other choice than going amd.
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March 23, 2013 11:28:27 AM

Enderegg said:
if the prices raise to much i will have no other choice than going amd.

rumor is that amd will release new piledriver cpus when haswell launches and steamroller may come out around q4 or in 2014. prices will not be like they are right now.
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March 23, 2013 11:32:21 AM

i knew that the 3 gen of fx series would be launched next year, but if the are going to launch new cpus this june, i may buy then =D
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March 24, 2013 4:30:48 AM

How about audio and video editing? who will win? 6300 vs 3570 vs 8350 vs 3770 vs 3220?
(i know 3770 and 8350 will be on top, but with witch order?)
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March 24, 2013 5:08:56 AM

Enderegg said:
How about audio and video editing? who will win? 6300 vs 3570 vs 8350 vs 3770 vs 3220?
(i know 3770 and 8350 will be on top, but with witch order?)

for multithreaded tasks that scale up to 8 cores and support hyperthreading (makes full use of integer clusters in fx cpus):
fx8350 > core i7 3770k > 3770 > fx6300 > core i5 3570k > 3570 > core i3 3220
for multithreaded tasks that score up to 4-5 cores and supports hyperthreading:
core i7 > core i5 ~ fx8350 > fx6300 > core i3
for single threaded tasks like itunes or lame mp3 or tasks that use up to 2 integer clusters:
core i7 > core i5 > core i3 > fx8350 > fx6300
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