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Hi there , i know there are countless threads about the 1 long beep and 2 short beep thing. It something that has to do with your gpu, ram or motherboard.
My error is a bit different though, i can just boot up my system and run windows perfectly fine. But ONLY when I reboot the computer (like for instance when i need to restart my computer for a new driver) the 1 long beep and 2 short beep comes in to place. I have to manually press my computer to start my computer again.

It all worked fine before. the game ran smooth ,no errors, no 1 long 2 short beep, but sometimes i had artifact a little bit. I wanted to get rid off the artifacts. I figured i had to clean the graphics card and the ram, i did this with a vacuum cleaner (not the smartest idea but ok) When i popped my gpu and ram back in the problems begin to occur. When i now try to play games my screen just freezes, i have to press ctrl alt delete to use my computer again, and it says my amd driver is crashed. I can play at all anymore.

I also cant acces catalyst controler center(software for graphic card AMD)

I brought my PC to the local store to check out what is wrong with my computer(i have no warranty) They tested my gpu,ram it all worked fine.

But tbh i dont think they checked a other gpu , ram on MY motherboard. So im not sure what the problem is right here, the computer store say its my motherboard,But i doubt that , cause it loads normally through windows.

It also could be my psu , im going back to the computer store, to get a heavier psu and see what happens then.

I have reset my cmos aswel, but that didnt fixed it

What do you guys think the problem is? What should i do?

my computer specs
I7 920
Ati radeon hd 4870
ram 2 x 2 gb ocz ddr3
psu 430 watt (12v - 22a)

 
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You are very, very close to limit with your current PSU even if it was 80+ gold. Change PSU first, it could resolve with that.

Have you uninstalled catalyst center and reinstalled with latest drivers? It should fix at least that problem.

Run Furmark burn in software for gpu to see what will happen after 10-15 min.
 
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Thanks feldmarschall for your reply!
yes ur right , my psu is probably not good enough its a hkc usp 3430(430 watt),

Normally i would uninstall my drivers through driversweeper i thought the program did the job, I think the driversweeper is not a good program to do this.
Because when I uninstalled the catalyst center through windows software, and installed it again my game was working again LOL , omg i was so happy. AND i was able to open catalyst control center again (did not work in the past) when i was in catalyst control center, i lowered the clock speed and the memory speed , and i was able to play again, then i the changed the gpu -clock speed to 750mhz again and it froze.
So its probably my psu
BUT i still wonder why when rebooting the 1 long beep 2 short beeps appear.

My gpu temperatures are around 80-85 degrees when playing, and when browsing etc around 57
 
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O ye id forgot to mention, when i set the clockspeed of the gpu to higher(750mhz) my game froze, and a few moments after that i got a BSOD, with dumping physical memory, with the error IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL,
and with text in like ''disable bios memory options caches or shadowing'' or something ?
and this ''check to make sure recently installed software or hardware bla blalal bla im not sure what they wrote ?
 
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85 is to much for 4870. You need to replace thermal compound and clean that cooler.

1 long 2 short beeps are complex. Maybe it's just insufficient current transffered to video card during restart, or voltage is to high.
As far as overclocking, these old monsters could go real high but stock speed is always best.
BSOD is something you should check with minidump viewer.
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html
get yourself this one and find that minidump file created after BSOD so you can analyize it normally.
 
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I tried restarting my computer todday, after my computer got a break for like 8 hours, and there it was no 1 long 2 short beeps.
Do you think it has something to do with overheating, thats my suggestion


 
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It could be either overheating or PSU capacitors are near their end and can't release energy on reboot after while of working. It can go either way.

For future stability you need definetely to "fix" cooling on your radeon, and find something more powerfull in form of PSU. :)
 
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how do i fix my cooling on my radeon?
 
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You'll need to dismantle cooler from your card, replace thermal compound and put all back on. And clean cooler while it's of the card. There is lot of tutorials on youtube how to do that, but it may be best if someone who is little bit more experienced do it, it takes 5 minutes if you know how. That should resolve temp issues.

This guy knows what he is doing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9ItYqEv8es ... it's just a guideline cause it's different card :)
 
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Thanks so much, for what kind of psu do i need to go? at least 750w? does it need to be a overpriced one? i saw 750 for 50 dollar, is that allright,
thanks
 
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Nice thnx, but you reckon 600 watt is a better idea then 750 watt for my current setup?
I bought this computer from a guy, i just saw in the bios system that my computer was/is acer aspire m7720. i think the system comes out of the box with 750 watt but im not sure
And is it bad for my computer to play games for a week orso on low clocking settings?, before i get my new psu?
 
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It comes out of the box with three types of PSU's 500/750/1000w. It depends what you need. 500W will not allow lot of modification. 750W will for higher end GPU's and 1000W is for crosffire options, but i don't think that they are putting such quality PSU's as this one i mentioned.
You won't need crosffire because it's pointless with your current rig, you can simply put 7870 or 79xx radeon and exploit max from your CPU.

As far as gaming, you can play.. if you played for some time, play for one week more. But resolve GPU temp issue as fast as you can.

P.S. how come that you have 430W in that rig? Did previous owner replaced PSU?
 
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I think the guy kept the 750 watt/1000 watt for himself, and put a 430 watt on it, for me its causing problems.
So what would you recommend for my setup 600, 750 watt? and does it have consequences when i go too high?
Ill keep you updated about about which psu i got in mind
And another question, do i benefit from 6 gb ddr3 instead of 4 gb ddr3? My friend told me i that i need to upgrade it cause its better for my current setup and it will be faster
thanks for your replys i really appreciate it.
 
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It comes with 500/750 or 1000. In it's original setup 500W is probably enough. Who knows, maybe it went down and he needed to replace it, i can't tell. As far as PSU power you can go high as you want but don't waste money :). As far as what to look for go for Corsair, OCZ, Sasonic, XFX, Antec.. something in their class. Don't go under 550W but no need for 1200W+ either if you know what i mean.
 
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I found this one,
Antec TruePower 650 Watt
do you think it will be enough wattage?
my motherboard is fx58m btw
 
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This one is really good. It has great reviews and tests, but that's somehing you would expect from them, and it will provide you steady power.

And i like 5 year warranties. Go for it if you don't care for money, and in 2 years time if you decide to buy new PC you'll be able to use this PSU without any problems.
 
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is 650 wattage enough for my rig with this psu?
 
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I installed my new psu, Antec TruePower 650 Watt.
however when i tried to play the game at minimum overdrive settings it still didnt run fine, it sayed my amd driver was not responding and the game kept crashing , installed new driver, still same problem
I had no clue what to do, i opened my graphics card, and i blew the dust out (with my mouth) the temps went lower quite a bit, and after i was able to use the stock settings in amd overdrive again. but at the semi-highest clock settings the game just freezes and i have to press alt f4 to close the game,

So my questions, was it a bad choice of me being a new psu? will the old psu also do fine (i can send the Antec TruePower 650 Watt back and get my money back) or should i stick with it?

And whats a good way to blow dust out?
tommorow i will buying thermal paste for my graphics card.
i rest my bios aswel, idk whats the problem either resetting bios, psu, or graphica card
 
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Buying new PSU was not mistake, first of all because weak PSU can produce instable output and destroy your other components. You were too close to failure with 430 on that rig. Now, when you remove cooler you can clean it however you want, just make sure it's dry when you reatach it.

Let's see next step. Can you run Furmark burn in test now? Let's see how your GPU performs on stress.
 
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I ran the stress test, however it goes over 95 degrees, so i shut it down, im afraid it would melt
but when playing though i had no more artifacts on gpu 750mhz and gpu memory speed 900mhz

 
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Definetely some temp issues aswell. You'll need to reaply thermal paste tomorrow. That will fix overheating, and then you'll be able to run burn in test again. It should not go over 80C with stock cooler on 4870, but it will go much lower.
Overheating can destroy your GPU, or at least make enough damage to force you on reflowing GPU, and that is always last option.
Don't forget to clean your cooler completely.

For example i like to wash mines in watter, then leace them for 2-3 hours and i'm ready to go. But you can do it with ear stick or something.
 
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I replaced thermal compound on my gpu and cpu. However the gpu wont work is has three leds in red color, d1601, d1602, 1603 at the same time. I cleaned dust etc also from the fan heatsink
I dont know what to do please help, this is the thermal paste i used http://www.replacedirect.nl/product/P0105058/spire-koelpasta-voor-cpugpu-whitegrease/pn/SP-420/0.3G.html?ecmp=ciao-nl
 
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You have'nt plugged it properly perhaps. Check that is sitting in PCI-E firmly, check that you have replugged GPU fan and that you have plugged both power supply connectors on GPU.

Also check if you have did thermal paste like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYpDLNscPIw
Use isoprophyl alcohol to remove old paste.

It's not same card, but only difference is in cooler, procedure is same.
 
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