ATI Radeon HD7560D

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Farang

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I'm not really good in understanding graphic cards and google doesn't have a lot info about this, so how good is ATI Radeon HD7560D on 4096Mb DDR3-1600MHz graphics card?

On a side note how good is this build:
CPU : MD Quad Core A8-5600K Black Edition 4X( 3900Mhz Turbo / 64bit / BOX / 100W / FM2 / FSB5200MTs )
RAM : 2 x 4096Mb DDR3-1600MHz Kingston Xyper X
HDD : 1000Gb SATA3 16Mb cache NCQ class Seagate Baracuda 7200
M/B : AMD A55 chipset, A55M, AMD Fusion 8X CPU support, MSI On/Off Charge Technology, Split Power Plane, 4+1 phase VRM, FM2
PSU : 400W+ 120mm cooler
 
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didn't know how to show u hopefully u can read the PIC i am a hair over but this would be a solid gaming PC

atomicWAR

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well amd APU's will always benefit from fast ram. the graphics system is bandwidth hungry in a big way...read this
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/memory-bandwidth-scaling-trinity,3419.html

also if you do want to depend on your APU for graphics get 8 gigs of ram your system will benefit.

if you want to game i suggest getting a dedicated graphics card. your psu is capable (at least in terms of watts...you may or may not have pcie plugs) of using a 7750 or 7770 which would be a big bump in performance just make sure you get cards with gddr5 not 3.
 

Rammy

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Slightly awkward question. The graphics chip you have is on the CPU (you have an A-series APU).
Toms has a chart of how graphics cards rank against each other for gaming, http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html
You can see the 7560D is quite a long way down. It's actually a very good integrated solution, but it can't compete with modern discrete graphics cards.

If you are wanting to play games, then it's better to look at a standard CPU+graphics solution in most circumstances.
 

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Okay so basically this VGA is fairly good but not the best? If so what would be the maximum it could run? Like which games could it run and on which settings?

On that system there is 8gb RAM 2 x 4096Mb
 

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I guess it's quite awkard, 'cause I'm a newb in this and that's why I ask for help here. So would it be possible for the shop to replace the integrated one with let's say something like this : VGA ATI Radeon HD6670 1Gb GDDR3/128bit DX11 ? And would it be good?
 

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Nah not at all, I mean it's awkward because you didn't really specify what you wanted to do with it. For general use with perhaps some very low end gaming, it's fine.
It can't be replaced because it is part of the CPU. The HD6670 is actually the discrete version of the same thing, but comes on it's own card with own memory so it's a bit faster. You can crossfireX them together, but if you aren't confident then it's probably more hassle than it is worth, it's of questionable merits anyway.
I think it's best to go back to the start.
What do you want to do with this PC (ie which games), and what resolution do you want to play at? We can then give you an idea of how much you'd need to spend.
 

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To Rammy : Basic stuff like Minecraft but on High settings, Mafia 2, maybe Battlefield(even on low settings) and Skyrim. Basic stuff.
The way you both describe it, it sounds like it's pretty shit. If it is what do I have to do, what to replace and with what preferably?

P.S. What is crossfireX?

To atomicWAR: Well, the place I'm buying sadly doesn't have the 7770 and I want to get everything at one place since if there'll be any problems with something it's clear who to blame and who to get it to repair.
They have from DDR5 :
VGA nVidia Geforce GTX 650 1024Mb GDDR5-6000MHz DX11/PCI-E
VGA Geforce GTX560 1024MB GDDR5 3800 / 192bit PCIE16, DirectX 11
VGA Geforce GTX560 OC 1024MB GDDR5 4000MHz / 256bit PCIE16, DirectX 11
It wouldn't be such a problem if my budget wouldn't be so limited. Since the first build I posted costs only about 500$ total it'd be affordable easy. Of course I'd buy a custom build off internet but many companies just don't ship here
 

atomicWAR

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crossfireX (just a rebrand of crossfire) just allows you to run multiple cards at the same time to split the lifting for graphics rendering between 2, 3 or 4 cards.

is the gtx650 a ti card? if so get it.

read this has some benchmarks
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6359/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-review
 

Rammy

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You'll be able to run most of those games at very low settings/resolution combos. If you wanted a machine to play games on, this was probably a bad choice because it doesn't have a graphics card.
It's really dependant on your resolution. If you want a card to play modern games at 1080P with settings turned up most of the way you need something like a HD7850. If you are happy to drop the detail down (but remain at 1080P) then you are looking at the HD7770 bracket. If you just want something to run modern games but you don't mind having to turn down all the settings or drop to lower resolutions then a good basic gaming card would be the HD7750.
There's other cards in the gaps between those, but I wouldn't consider anything outside of the HD7*** or GTX6** series because you get all the modern advancements and benefits (lower power use etc).

CrossfireX (For AMD) or SLI (For Nvidia) is just a way of linking two (identical) graphics cards together so they work as one. It has numerous benefits and drawbacks, but it's generally not worth bothering with for most users. AMD have a system where you can link the graphics on your CPU to a normal graphics card, but it's pretty weak and probably more hassle than it is worth.
 

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If I buy the gtx650 (It isn't a ti just a normal one) what do I have to do with the integrated one since it comes with CPU and it seems like a waste of money. Should I get rid off the integrated one and order a good CPU then in the place that one or just leave it?
 

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CPU : Quad X4 Core FX4170 "17.200Mhz" 4X (4300Mhz Turbo Mode / 64bit / BOX / AM3+)
VGA : Geforce GT640 2048Mb GDDR3 / 128bit-1600MHz, HDMI / Direct X11 / Pixel Shader 5.0 / Open GL 4.0 / DVI Ultra HD graphics
Sounds good? That's probably the best I could find in an affordable price range.

Also, will it be smart to get the 650 not Ti for about 154$ on the first build I posted, and what to do with the CPU and Integrated graph card then? Get rid of it and buy just a CPU or leave it?
 

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you don't need to do anything with it as it is built into the CPU you can't. now yes you could get a better CPU without an igpu but then you need a different motherboard too ...all FM socket cpus have an integrated GPU. personally i would just leave it alone. its a good CPU even if you don't use the IGPU. course you could get a better FM1 CPU too but it will still come with an IGPU.
 

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Okay, sounds like I'll have to abandon that build.
See the stats I posted in reply Rammy are they any good? I mean I know they won't run to the max everything but is it significantly better to the specs before?
If needed I can post that whole build here.
 

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500-530 dollars. The most important thing for me is that it's able to be shipped to a country called Latvia. If you need I can give you 2 local sites from which it's possible to create a build.
http://dato.lv/oc/index.php?route=product/category&path=39 (Just change the language to English right where the red, white flag is)
http://www.dataleks.lv/lv/categories/datoru-komponentes/ (This one doesn't have English lang., but I hope you'll understand from pictures)
Or feel free to use any sites, retailers, sellers who can ship here
In Latvian money the budget is 250-270 Ls
 

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give me 15-20 minutes....will post when done
 

Rammy

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As with most pre-made PCs, it's really hard to find a good balance of CPU-graphics. They usually go too heavy on CPU and pair it up with rubbish graphics. The reason they do this is because it's a lot easier to make a profit on higher end systems, and they'd happily have you believe you need to spend a fortune on a "gaming" machine.
If you are up for installing a graphics card yourself (not hard), I reckon we can definitely sort you with something really nice though.

I'm struggling a little to hit viable candidates tbh.
http://www.dataleks.lv/lv/item/pc-personalie-datori:5637 isn't a bad choice. i3 3220 and HD7770. 279Ls (I know a bit over)
http://www.dataleks.lv/lv/item/pc-personalie-datori:3849 same thing but dropped to a HD7750. 249Ls.

I'd inclined to suggest an FX-4300 or FX-6300 but they don't seem to be on the market in Latvia.
 

Farang

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Fun fact: I was looking at the one 249 in the very beggining, but then a friend of mine who supposedly finished IT classes recommended the first one I posted for gaming.
How good is the i3 one? Also would it be a good thing to spend those 40 $ for 4 more GBs of RAM or 4gb is enough?

And I'm currently waiting on atomicWAR to post what he's come up with, if he doesn't have anything I guess I'll go with the one that has HD7750

EDIT: What would be the options if I'm willing to install graphics card myself?
 

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went over by 7ls hope that is ok.
 

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A HUGE THANK YOU to both of you. Really. You can't imagine how thankful I am, without you I would've wasted my hard collected and earned money for shitty PC with which I basically couldn't play anything new.
In the end, I guess I'm gonna go a bit over and take atomicWARs build since it has 8GBs of RAM and the CPU isn't that far behind i3.

And I'm gonna say thank you once again :D You are the people due to whom I still have faith in kindness and unselfishness in the human race.
 

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I will, it's gonna take some time though. And already chose your build pic as the solution :)

Oh but one thing, I don't see the sound card on the build? Is it like integrated in motherboard or something?
 
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