I have renovated my house and installed in all rooms SSTP cables cat 7. Now I need to connect the lot (16 connections) into a network with a switch and to a router or router/switch. I'd like to use at least some 10 gbps connections, at least if this is a sensible idea to speed up the internet and LAN. Problem is to find cat7 connections. Who can help me to sort my problem out for a price /quality sensible solution?
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listen to Jim_L9 by a 1Gb now then maybe in 5 years time you can upgrade to a 10Gb switch. 1Gb is good enough for anything now, 10Gb is useless at the moment. you might find a 10Gb switch but I doubt you will find a 10Gb NIC for your computers. even if you get it I doubt you will be using more then 5% of the 10Gb on any connection no matter what you use it for including gaming and small to medium size business server. don't waste you money buy a 1Gb switch now and wait a few years for the 10Gb. p.s. 1Gb switch has just about become the standard for connections now you might have to wait about 10 years until you see a 10Gb NIC in a family PC.
Where do you intend to get a PC that has a 10g port to plug into your new switch. This is outright silly. Expect to pay $15,000 just for the switch and that is without the SFP modules. The SFP for copper will be a few hundred more per port.
10G is only used between core switches in data centers, some very high end disk array systems, and some very large blade server devices.
It is almost impossible to exceed 1G in most networks. You are bottle necked by the hard drive and processor speeds.
10G is only used between core switches in data centers, some very high end disk array systems, and some very large blade server devices.
It is almost impossible to exceed 1G in most networks. You are bottle necked by the hard drive and processor speeds.
Highly unlikely you will find a router with more than about 4 ethernet ports...well they do make commercial grade ones. A 24 port 10/100/1000 unmanaged switch will likely be the best buy. This will allow all your devices in your house to talk at full gig speed. You could then hook a router to the switch. If your internet is more than 100m the gig ports on the router will be a benefit otherwise a router with 10/100 lan ports will work as well as a 1g for most internet connections.
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I too would love to use at least some 10GBaseT connections, but the cost of doing so is prohibitive. And wouldn't do a bit of good for internet / streaming etc... Very few companies make 10GbaseT equipment, and those that do, know its value in an enterprise environment. None of them make or market anything in 10GBaseT that is priced toward residential installations, or even small to mid sized business applications.
For your configuration, I would suggest going with a quality router with gigabit LAN ports, and a 16 to 24 port unmanaged gigabit switch.
Since you don't mention any need for WiFi, or USB printer / storage service from the router, I would figure something similar to my rig would work well for you.
Router. Cisco / Linksys EA2700 4 port Gigabit LAN ports, gigabit WAN port, and 802.11n N600 WiFi.
Switch. TrendNet TEG-S16DG 16 port unmanaged gigabit ethernet switch. Unless of course you want all 16 cables connecting to the switch only, which is best, then you would want the TEG-S24DG 24 port unmanaged gigabit ethernet switch.
Both of those items cost less than the low end of a single port on a 10GBaseT switch... You will get, assuming your computers have gigabit NICs gigabit speed, unblocked (dedicated, full speed) all the way up to the uplink to the router, the router uplink would be shared gigabit, and the WAN port would be shared to at whatever speed your ISP provisions. Assuming you are willing to spend gobs of money, and it is available near you, a max of 302mb/s for residential service...
For your configuration, I would suggest going with a quality router with gigabit LAN ports, and a 16 to 24 port unmanaged gigabit switch.
Since you don't mention any need for WiFi, or USB printer / storage service from the router, I would figure something similar to my rig would work well for you.
Router. Cisco / Linksys EA2700 4 port Gigabit LAN ports, gigabit WAN port, and 802.11n N600 WiFi.
Switch. TrendNet TEG-S16DG 16 port unmanaged gigabit ethernet switch. Unless of course you want all 16 cables connecting to the switch only, which is best, then you would want the TEG-S24DG 24 port unmanaged gigabit ethernet switch.
Both of those items cost less than the low end of a single port on a 10GBaseT switch... You will get, assuming your computers have gigabit NICs gigabit speed, unblocked (dedicated, full speed) all the way up to the uplink to the router, the router uplink would be shared gigabit, and the WAN port would be shared to at whatever speed your ISP provisions. Assuming you are willing to spend gobs of money, and it is available near you, a max of 302mb/s for residential service...
Thanks for this useful information.
This is all the gear I connect right now:
1 x IMac, 2 x Macbook pro, 2 x laptops, 1 x 3TB time capsule, 1 x HP officejet PRO 8500 Wireless printer, 3 x smart TV's, 2 x Sony PS3, 1 x Nintendo WII, 1 x Sony IT 2000 home cinema, 1 x TV decoder, 1 x beamer, 4 x smartphones.
I myself prefer a cabled network, but some family members (the children
) don't want this cable fuss and use the wifi network. This means that 1 macbook, 1 laptop, 2 PS3, 1 WII and 2 smartphones are wifi connected. The printer and the time capsule are both USB and wifi connected. Since the rest doesn't move place often, it 's cable connected.What the wifi is concerned, shouldn't I better invest in 802.11 ac instead of 802.11n?
Apart from all this equipment, my son is into music and we are building a music studio, where I'll need some network on its own. The transferred music files can be voluminous - music devided in at least 8 or 16 tracks. I know this is taking me far from my original question, but at least on this forum I get straightforward answers.
It is unlikely any music will exceed even 100m. Raw uncompressed video is still much less than 100m. Pretty much the only time you would need 1g is when a lot of machines were say backing up files to a central nas type device. Still for devices a normal person can afford you will hit the limit of the device way before you hit 1g. Most times it maxes out about 600m or so.
802.11ac is a tough call.
First the standard is not finalized (end of this year) so you run the risk of incompatibility in the future. This is the old PRE-N issue.
Most vendors are waiting for the final document so there are very few NIC cards available and no vendor (like apple) is embedding them.
Even once 802.11ac is out you run into the problem we have with 802.11n today. These routers slow down to run in compatibility mode. In this case only back to 802.11n (well 802.11a too but not much around). Still this is like running 802.11n and 802.11g. You pretty much give up all the advantages because you have a single old device with a embedded nic that can not be changed. The solution is to run multiple AP one for N and another for G.
So if you end up having to run 802.11n anyway to allow your 802.11AC to run at max speed you may be better off buy the 802.11n device now and when 802.11ac gets more popular you could buy the router and use the 802.11n to support your devices you cannot upgrade.
Reading a lot of the technical stuff I am not sure 802.11AC is going to buy a lot. The key advantage is it can transmit over more total bandwidth..ie use 80mhz rather than 40mhz. Problem is it only on 5g band which is absorb by walls and such much more. Also not all the channels in the 5g band can legally be used at maximum power. This means everyone will use the same groups of channels and we are right back into the problem of interference from neighbors that cause all the strange drop problems for people today.
802.11ac is a tough call.
First the standard is not finalized (end of this year) so you run the risk of incompatibility in the future. This is the old PRE-N issue.
Most vendors are waiting for the final document so there are very few NIC cards available and no vendor (like apple) is embedding them.
Even once 802.11ac is out you run into the problem we have with 802.11n today. These routers slow down to run in compatibility mode. In this case only back to 802.11n (well 802.11a too but not much around). Still this is like running 802.11n and 802.11g. You pretty much give up all the advantages because you have a single old device with a embedded nic that can not be changed. The solution is to run multiple AP one for N and another for G.
So if you end up having to run 802.11n anyway to allow your 802.11AC to run at max speed you may be better off buy the 802.11n device now and when 802.11ac gets more popular you could buy the router and use the 802.11n to support your devices you cannot upgrade.
Reading a lot of the technical stuff I am not sure 802.11AC is going to buy a lot. The key advantage is it can transmit over more total bandwidth..ie use 80mhz rather than 40mhz. Problem is it only on 5g band which is absorb by walls and such much more. Also not all the channels in the 5g band can legally be used at maximum power. This means everyone will use the same groups of channels and we are right back into the problem of interference from neighbors that cause all the strange drop problems for people today.
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802.11ac Wireless is in draft standard right now, meaning that effectively it is in the beta test phase. VERY little equipment can take advantage of its speed, and devices like the PS3 and Wii will never be upgradeable to anything faster than N. Wireless is something kids and the non technical folks like because it is easy. I like it for certain applications, particularly mobile devices, but even the best configured WiFi networks slow WAY down with the slightest interference, such as crowded airwaves from your neighbors WiFi, or even CFL bulbs and microwave ovens. So far my WiFi is limited to my DirecTV Cinema Connector as the wired one failed and they sent me a WiFi model. My Wii, 3 mobile phones, a tablet and my BILs Netbook. The PS/3 is wired as are the media players (Netgear streaming players). If WiFi was truly ready for prime time, you would see far greater adoption of the technology by large enterprises. Take the hint from them, build the best wired network you can, and minimize the Wireless stuff to just toys, guest access, and stuff that moves a lot.
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10-Gigabit Ethernet (10GbE) is already well established in the enterprise space, but there are several barriers to its adoption by smaller businesses — not least of which is the eye-watering cost of current 10GbE infrastructure. Netgear recently announced a range of three low-cost 10GBase-T (the copper-cabled standard) switches, including the 8-port ProSAFE Plus XS708E, which is one of the first entry-level switches aimed specifically at SMEs. At around £675 ($1,025), the XS708E represents a significant drop in cost-per-port for 10GbE switching.
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