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March 25, 2013 5:17:44 AM

Title says it all, I need some help with my first build, I've actually never even owned a desktop before, so please be gentle lol. I'm also a total noob to computers in general so if you could keep things simple, that would be great!

So I'm looking at doing my first build, basically an all rounder PC with decent gaming ability (though I'll probs be gaming on it more than anything) I have done my research on parts that I think would suit my needs, but I would like to run it by folks to see if I've done it correctly.... or if I've failed miserably. I'm fairly certain I've picked out a decent set up for my budget ~$900, although I'm totally clueless as to whether I have selected a decent graphics card or not.

Here's the parts list:

-Intel i5-3570 (will be upgrading to an i7 eventually and possibly overclocking)
-AsRock Z77-Etreme4 ATX Mobo
-Corsair Vengeance 8GB kit (2xGB) DDR3 1600 (I'll double up to 16GB when I can)
-Kingston SV300S37A 120GB SSD (will be adding in an old WD Blue 1TB I got from a friend as secondary storage)
-ASUS GTX650-Ti-1GD5 Graphics Card
-Antec TP-650 650 watt PSU

-Thermaltake Chaser A31 Mid Tower chassis
-Some sort of optical drive, most likely a DVD combo drive.

I'm not too sure of what games I'll be playing as of yet, but I will be playing Firefall for sure, and probably Guild Wars 2 and Star Wars Old Republic later on. Obviously I wouldn't get high settings with the graphics card I chose but will it at least run at medium settings? (is that a thing? lol)

A few notes: I realise some of the parts I've listed aren't necessary for this build at the moment, but I would like to have good upgrade potential for my build, hence the Z77 chipset mobo with an un-clockable CPU (non-clockable?) Also the motherboard supports SLI but my card doesn't, I'm fine with this until I can afford a good DUAL setup and better CPU etc. Any thoughts on an alternative graphics card would be nice, though I can't stretch the budget for a dearer graphics card unless I skimp somewhere else in the build. I could also do with some advice about the PSU, I've used a couple of PSU calculators and they all gave me random wattage measurements lol, one said 412 watts, another was about 520 watts and the last one I used said 600 watts. Also, adding up the numbers I could find for individual part's power draw was mixed as well, so some clarity on this point would be nice. Do I need more power? Would I be better to go with a different brand? etc. I would definitely prefer a modular supply, but if needed I will suffer with a non-modular until I can upgrade.

All my parts are from MSY here: www.msy.com.au They are the only shop within a reasonable distance from my house so please use their site if you're referring alternative parts. Their selection is a bit on the small side, but that can't be helped unfortunately, and I really can't go anywhere else so I just have to deal.

Hope I've included everything for you guys to help me out, thanks in advance, apologies for the long winded post.

I should have mentioned I'm In Australia and can only get parts from the shop I stated earlier, please try to use that site as a reference, I can't buy online from over seas lol. ..

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March 25, 2013 5:28:59 AM

1-you should get one h77 motherboard the z77 is only in case you oc the cpu thing you cant do because its not the 3570k!
so go for one 3570!

2-there are better graphics cards like the 7790!

3-also you really dont need such a big psu!550w would be enough!
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March 25, 2013 5:44:53 AM

Gennaios said:
1-you should get one h77 motherboard the z77 is only in case you oc the cpu thing you cant do because its not the 3570k!
so go for one 3570!

2-there are better graphics cards like the 7790!

3-also you really dont need such a big psu!550w would be enough!


thanks for the reply, but did you even read my post?

1. I know the CPU can't be overclocked but I wanted a Z77 motherboard so I can upgrade to an i7 that can be overclocked in the future without having to buy an entirely new mobo.

2. What? I have no idea what this is, I also looked at the website I listed and they don't have it (As far as I could see)

3. Why? I would prefer to have a slightly bigger PSU than I need purely for upgrade purposes, if I could I would get a 1kw Corsair lol.

I also should have mentioned, I want nVidia, not AMD too sorry.
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March 25, 2013 5:49:26 AM

mhtsgr9 said:
go for GTX 660 ti....
it is much much better then 650ti ..
everything else is OK...
and 650 watt of PSU is more...
u will be OK with 600 watt also...


Thanks man, I would LOVE a GTX 660 Ti but they are well out of my price range, I actually tried to factor one of those cards into my build but I just couldn't keep it under budget :(  Glad to hear 650watts is enough, I'll still stick with that wattage purely for upgrade purposes for the time being though :) 
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March 25, 2013 5:54:01 AM

i want nvindia and not amd but i dont look the companies but the performance!getting a graphics card every now and then is not so pleasant!
the graphics card would be soon released and worth waiting!

about the psu it will worth only by upgrading cause many people put 1000w with one 400w build!
also as i mentioned dont look the companies but the performance!
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March 25, 2013 6:11:47 AM

Gennaios said:
i want nvindia and not amd but i dont look the companies but the performance!getting a graphics card every now and then is not so pleasant!
the graphics card would be soon released and worth waiting!

about the psu it will worth only by upgrading cause many people put 1000w with one 400w build!
also as i mentioned dont look the companies but the performance!


That's cool man, but you didn't give me any details about the difference between the two cards, as for nVidia over AMD, that's just my personal preference. I know more about nVidia so I'm a bit more confident using them over AMD. I'm not sure what you're saying with the PSU thing sorry, but from my understanding, using a 650watt psu with a 400watt system isn't bad, also considering the calculators I've used have shown power draw between 400 and 600 watts, I would rather be safe than sorry. Why would I wait for a new card to be released? Wouldn't it just be out of my price range anyway?
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March 25, 2013 6:24:15 AM

For $900 i would do something like this. If you don't live near a microcentre, buying online it comes to $899.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($20.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.30 @ NCIX US)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($112.50 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($277.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $869.72
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-25 09:24 EDT-0400)
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March 25, 2013 6:30:02 AM

mikerockett said:
For $900 i would do something like this. If you don't live near a microcentre, buying online it comes to $899.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($20.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.30 @ NCIX US)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($112.50 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($277.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $869.72
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-25 09:24 EDT-0400)


That's in America right?
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March 25, 2013 6:44:19 AM

if you are a nvindia fan as i am(seems more trustable)then go for the nvindia!why to tell you the differences since there is no way you are getting the amd card :) !

its truly more trustable!about the psu i agree that it gives you more upgrading freedom!
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March 25, 2013 6:47:46 AM

FanboyJorEl said:
mikerockett said:
For $900 i would do something like this. If you don't live near a microcentre, buying online it comes to $899.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($20.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.30 @ NCIX US)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($112.50 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($277.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $869.72
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-25 09:24 EDT-0400)


That's in America right?


It is yea, just seen you're in Oz, i'll redo that for you.
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March 25, 2013 6:56:50 AM

mikerockett said:
FanboyJorEl said:
mikerockett said:
For $900 i would do something like this. If you don't live near a microcentre, buying online it comes to $899.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($20.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.30 @ NCIX US)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($112.50 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($277.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $869.72
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-25 09:24 EDT-0400)


That's in America right?


It is yea, just seen you're in Oz, i'll redo that for you.


Dang! I'm so jealous, that's got a few parts that I really wanted too lol. If you can be bothered, could you source the parts for me from www.msy.com.au? It's the cheapest place in Oz for parts (as far as I know) though their selection is quite small.
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March 25, 2013 6:57:07 AM

Had to downgrade a few components to compensate but this will be a solid rig, i would highly recommend squeezing a little more budget for the 128gb version of the SSD.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($195.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($70.00 @ Foxcomp)
Storage: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Other: GTX 660 Ti ($291.00)
Total: $900.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-26 00:57 EST+1100)
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March 25, 2013 7:18:09 AM

mikerockett said:
Had to downgrade a few components to compensate but this will be a solid rig, i would highly recommend squeezing a little more budget for the 128gb version of the SSD.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($195.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($70.00 @ Foxcomp)
Storage: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Other: GTX 660 Ti ($291.00)
Total: $900.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-26 00:57 EST+1100)


Nice, cheers man! That seems like a real solid build, and it has that GTX 660 Ti I was drooling over, downside is, that price doesn't include shipping I'd be looking at an extra $150 for shipping alone :( 

Thanks for sharing the PC part picker app with me though, wish I found that a week ago lol
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March 25, 2013 7:37:54 AM

FanboyJorEl said:
mikerockett said:
Had to downgrade a few components to compensate but this will be a solid rig, i would highly recommend squeezing a little more budget for the 128gb version of the SSD.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($195.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($70.00 @ Foxcomp)
Storage: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Other: GTX 660 Ti ($291.00)
Total: $900.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-26 00:57 EST+1100)


Nice, cheers man! That seems like a real solid build, and it has that GTX 660 Ti I was drooling over, downside is, that price doesn't include shipping I'd be looking at an extra $150 for shipping alone :( 

Thanks for sharing the PC part picker app with me though, wish I found that a week ago lol


That's unfortunate, for most other countries those prices include the cost of shipping, don't know why it doesn't for Australia. Hopefully at the very least the Pcpartpicker website will help you out.
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March 25, 2013 7:42:05 AM

mikerockett said:
FanboyJorEl said:
mikerockett said:
Had to downgrade a few components to compensate but this will be a solid rig, i would highly recommend squeezing a little more budget for the 128gb version of the SSD.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($195.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($70.00 @ Foxcomp)
Storage: Crucial M4 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Other: GTX 660 Ti ($291.00)
Total: $900.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-26 00:57 EST+1100)


Nice, cheers man! That seems like a real solid build, and it has that GTX 660 Ti I was drooling over, downside is, that price doesn't include shipping I'd be looking at an extra $150 for shipping alone :( 

Thanks for sharing the PC part picker app with me though, wish I found that a week ago lol


That's unfortunate, for most other countries those prices include the cost of shipping, don't know why it doesn't for Australia. Hopefully at the very least the Pcpartpicker website will help you out.


Yeah, it is unfortunate, but it's a big help with compatibility and what not. I'm actually playing with it now lol, switching out some parts you suggested with some of mine etc. Thanks heaps for the help though mate :) 
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March 25, 2013 8:29:17 AM

You're more than welcome, any more help you need let me know.
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