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Computer wont screen doesn't start up on first boot, is it because the graphics card sin't installed?

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March 25, 2013 9:33:40 AM

I have just built my first gaming computer. I hooked everything up and when I go to turn it on an led on the motherboard lights up but nothing else sstarts, the screen doesnt start up the fans don't turn on and the led's on the case don't turn on either. I have no clue what to do is it because the graphics card isn't installed on the motherboard? and if so how would I install it? because the motherboard doesnt have an integrated graphics card

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March 25, 2013 9:38:50 AM

full spec?
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March 25, 2013 9:39:13 AM

we need more info about your parts.....what type of motherboard, cpu, ram, power supply, graphics card, etc

one suggestion though is to not put your motherboard in the case...put it on the static paper it came with and build the pc on it....see if it boots if so....then stick it in the case. this helps make sure your motherboard is not grounded which can happen when you screw it down.
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March 25, 2013 9:40:14 AM

If the motherboard doesn't have integrated graphics you need a graphic card. What did you even connect the monitor to then?
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March 25, 2013 9:44:15 AM

holdingholder said:
If the motherboard doesn't have integrated graphics you need a graphic card. What did you even connect the monitor to then?


i was trying so hard to be quiet tell he gave us full specs. lol..but yeah what did you hook up to?
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March 25, 2013 9:48:51 AM

When you say the graphics card isn't installed, do you mean that you don't have one plugged into the PCIe slot, or do you mean that you don't have drivers installed yet.

If it's the first scenario, the obvious solution would be to install one.

However if you mean you have one plugged in, but you new build isn't POSTing, that's a whole different situation. Basic tips for troubleshooting a non-POSTing computer:

1. Double and triple check that you've plugged everything into the motherboard that needs to be, 20/4 ATX power connector, 12V CPU connector, RAM is fully inserted and installed in the correct slots, video card is fully inserted into the correct slot for a single card configuration and it's PCIe power connectors are plugged into it.

2. Check case connections especially power switch and reset switch.

3. Reset BIOS as per instructions in motherboard manual.

4. Be sure you used the motherboard standoffs, and only used the ones indicated in your motherboard manual.

5. If there was protective plastic protecting pre-applied TIM on your heatsink, be sure that you removed it prior to affixing the HSF.

To get more specific help, you need to post your computer details, motherboard, CPU, RAM, PSU, case, and anything else that might be important.
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March 25, 2013 9:50:56 AM

Asus M5A97 LE R2.0
Sapphire Radeon HD 7850
AMD FX 8350 Vishera 8-core
top power 800w
Corsair RAM 2 4GB

I am plugging the screen into the graphics card
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March 25, 2013 9:51:58 AM

techgeek said:
When you say the graphics card isn't installed, do you mean that you don't have one plugged into the PCIe slot, or do you mean that you don't have drivers installed yet.

If it's the first scenario, the obvious solution would be to install one.

However if you mean you have one plugged in, but you new build isn't POSTing, that's a whole different situation. Basic tips for troubleshooting a non-POSTing computer:

1. Double and triple check that you've plugged everything into the motherboard that needs to be, 20/4 ATX power connector, 12V CPU connector, RAM is fully inserted and installed in the correct slots, video card is fully inserted into the correct slot for a single card configuration and it's PCIe power connectors are plugged into it.

2. Check case connections especially power switch and reset switch.

3. Reset BIOS as per instructions in motherboard manual.

4. Be sure you used the motherboard standoffs, and only used the ones indicated in your motherboard manual.

5. If there was protective plastic protecting pre-applied TIM on your heatsink, be sure that you removed it prior to affixing the HSF.

To get more specific help, you need to post your computer details, motherboard, CPU, RAM, PSU, case, and anything else that might be important.


The graphics card is in the slot and everything but its not installed
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March 25, 2013 9:55:41 AM

techgeek said:
When you say the graphics card isn't installed, do you mean that you don't have one plugged into the PCIe slot, or do you mean that you don't have drivers installed yet.

If it's the first scenario, the obvious solution would be to install one.

However if you mean you have one plugged in, but you new build isn't POSTing, that's a whole different situation. Basic tips for troubleshooting a non-POSTing computer:

1. Double and triple check that you've plugged everything into the motherboard that needs to be, 20/4 ATX power connector, 12V CPU connector, RAM is fully inserted and installed in the correct slots, video card is fully inserted into the correct slot for a single card configuration and it's PCIe power connectors are plugged into it.

2. Check case connections especially power switch and reset switch.

3. Reset BIOS as per instructions in motherboard manual.

4. Be sure you used the motherboard standoffs, and only used the ones indicated in your motherboard manual.

5. If there was protective plastic protecting pre-applied TIM on your heatsink, be sure that you removed it prior to affixing the HSF.

To get more specific help, you need to post your computer details, motherboard, CPU, RAM, PSU, case, and anything else that might be important.


+ 1 this is a good way to go...

but as i also said i find it helps to "build" you pc on static paper first. you know its not grounded that way and if anything doesn't work or is defective....no need to get your screw driver out and pull it out of the case.
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March 25, 2013 9:58:08 AM

So this is you first boot. The card is physically installed and that's all that matters for POSTing, driver installation is moot until you get it to POST.

Start with the steps I laid out. This covers the obvious missteps and problems. Hopefully one of these will get you home.

Does you case have a speaker? If so make sure it's plugged into the header on your motherboard so you can hear any POST beeps, these might help determine what is going wrong.
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March 25, 2013 10:00:29 AM

techgeek said:
So this is you first boot. The card is physically installed and that's all that matters for POSTing, driver installation is moot until you get it to POST.

Start with the steps I laid out. This covers the obvious missteps and problems. Hopefully one of these will get you home.

Does you case have a speaker? If so make sure it's plugged into the header on your motherboard so you can hear any POST beeps, these might help determine what is going wrong.


So even though the graphics card isnt installed the bios should still come up on screen?
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March 25, 2013 10:02:02 AM

Nick Sumbot said:
techgeek said:
So this is you first boot. The card is physically installed and that's all that matters for POSTing, driver installation is moot until you get it to POST.

Start with the steps I laid out. This covers the obvious missteps and problems. Hopefully one of these will get you home.

Does you case have a speaker? If so make sure it's plugged into the header on your motherboard so you can hear any POST beeps, these might help determine what is going wrong.


So even though the graphics card isnt installed the bios should still come up on screen?


as long as its plugged in a pcie slot and has power yes it should
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March 25, 2013 10:05:15 AM

atomicWAR said:
Nick Sumbot said:
techgeek said:
So this is you first boot. The card is physically installed and that's all that matters for POSTing, driver installation is moot until you get it to POST.

Start with the steps I laid out. This covers the obvious missteps and problems. Hopefully one of these will get you home.

Does you case have a speaker? If so make sure it's plugged into the header on your motherboard so you can hear any POST beeps, these might help determine what is going wrong.


So even though the graphics card isnt installed the bios should still come up on screen?


as long as its plugged in a pcie slot and has power yes it should


ok so it must be that I don't have something else pluggied in right? I am not completely sure how the front panel connectors plug into the motherboard and how the fans plug in
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March 25, 2013 10:07:02 AM

Nick Sumbot said:
Ths is the enclosure and I am not completely sure how the power and reset buttons plu in
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


If you don't have the power switch from your case wired to the header on your motherboard, it's not going to come on. There should be a bunch of wires coming from your case. One will be power, one will be reset, one for HDD LED, one for front USB ports, one for front panel audio, etc. At a minimum you need the power one plugged into the motherboard. The power switch on the PSU isn't going to turn your computer on. The motherboard monitors the switch and when it's closed, it will allow power to supply the rest of the motherboard.
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March 25, 2013 10:09:30 AM

techgeek said:
Nick Sumbot said:
Ths is the enclosure and I am not completely sure how the power and reset buttons plu in
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


If you don't have the power switch from your case wired to the header on your motherboard, it's not going to come on. There should be a bunch of wires coming from your case. One will be power, one will be reset, one for HDD LED, one for front USB ports, one for front panel audio, etc. At a minimum you need the power one plugged into the motherboard. The power switch on the PSU isn't going to turn your computer on. The motherboard monitors the switch and when it's closed, it will allow power to supply the rest of the motherboard.


ehhhh not totally true. you can short the leads by hand with a bit of wire on the power switch pins on the motherboard...but i usually do that if i suspect my power switch is broken. which it might be worth checking!
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March 25, 2013 10:13:05 AM

atomicWAR said:
techgeek said:
Nick Sumbot said:
Ths is the enclosure and I am not completely sure how the power and reset buttons plu in
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


If you don't have the power switch from your case wired to the header on your motherboard, it's not going to come on. There should be a bunch of wires coming from your case. One will be power, one will be reset, one for HDD LED, one for front USB ports, one for front panel audio, etc. At a minimum you need the power one plugged into the motherboard. The power switch on the PSU isn't going to turn your computer on. The motherboard monitors the switch and when it's closed, it will allow power to supply the rest of the motherboard.


ehhhh not totally true. you can short the leads by hand with a bit of wire on the power switch pins...but i usually do that if i suspect my power switch is broken. which it might be worth checking!


Well is there a schematic or something I could look at that shows how to plug everything in? I am just really new at all of this. I plugged in the power, reset, speaker, hdd led, and the usb and audio but im not sure if the power and such are plugged in right
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March 25, 2013 10:16:18 AM

Nick Sumbot said:
atomicWAR said:
Nick Sumbot said:
techgeek said:
So this is you first boot. The card is physically installed and that's all that matters for POSTing, driver installation is moot until you get it to POST.

Start with the steps I laid out. This covers the obvious missteps and problems. Hopefully one of these will get you home.

Does you case have a speaker? If so make sure it's plugged into the header on your motherboard so you can hear any POST beeps, these might help determine what is going wrong.


So even though the graphics card isnt installed the bios should still come up on screen?


as long as its plugged in a pcie slot and has power yes it should


ok so it must be that I don't have something else pluggied in right? I am not completely sure how the front panel connectors plug into the motherboard and how the fans plug in


You will see a bunch of cables hanging inside your case coming from the things I indicated in my last post. The ones that plug into the motherboard header should be labelled on them, something like PW SW for power switch, HDD for hard drive LED, RESET for reset, SPKR for speaker if your case has one. The header connector on most motherboards will be on the bottom right corner of the motherboard. The manual will show you what pins go with which connector.

As for the fans, depending on the connectors for the fans will dictate where you can plug them. If they are 3 pin connectors and your motherboard has fan connectors you can plug them into them. Make sure your heatsink fan is plugged into the CPU FAN connector (usually near the CPU socket). If the case fans are molex connectors then you will plug them directly to your power supply.

Sort out the case connectors that plug into your motherboard, then sort out the fans. Unplug your computer from the wall until this is all sorted though.
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March 25, 2013 10:19:18 AM

techgeek said:
Nick Sumbot said:
atomicWAR said:
Nick Sumbot said:
techgeek said:
So this is you first boot. The card is physically installed and that's all that matters for POSTing, driver installation is moot until you get it to POST.

Start with the steps I laid out. This covers the obvious missteps and problems. Hopefully one of these will get you home.

Does you case have a speaker? If so make sure it's plugged into the header on your motherboard so you can hear any POST beeps, these might help determine what is going wrong.


So even though the graphics card isnt installed the bios should still come up on screen?


as long as its plugged in a pcie slot and has power yes it should


ok so it must be that I don't have something else pluggied in right? I am not completely sure how the front panel connectors plug into the motherboard and how the fans plug in


You will see a bunch of cables hanging inside your case coming from the things I indicated in my last post. The ones that plug into the motherboard header should be labelled on them, something like PW SW for power switch, HDD for hard drive LED, RESET for reset, SPKR for speaker if your case has one. The header connector on most motherboards will be on the bottom right corner of the motherboard. The manual will show you what pins go with which connector.

As for the fans, depending on the connectors for the fans will dictate where you can plug them. If they are 3 pin connectors and your motherboard has fan connectors you can plug them into them. Make sure your heatsink fan is plugged into the CPU FAN connector (usually near the CPU socket). If the case fans are molex connectors then you will plug them directly to your power supply.

Sort out the case connectors that plug into your motherboard, then sort out the fans. Unplug your computer from the wall until this is all sorted though.


I plugged the fans into my power supply and at the end of the cord there is a four pin connecter do I plug that into the motherboard?
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March 25, 2013 10:22:37 AM

Nick Sumbot said:
atomicWAR said:
techgeek said:
Nick Sumbot said:
Ths is the enclosure and I am not completely sure how the power and reset buttons plu in
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


If you don't have the power switch from your case wired to the header on your motherboard, it's not going to come on. There should be a bunch of wires coming from your case. One will be power, one will be reset, one for HDD LED, one for front USB ports, one for front panel audio, etc. At a minimum you need the power one plugged into the motherboard. The power switch on the PSU isn't going to turn your computer on. The motherboard monitors the switch and when it's closed, it will allow power to supply the rest of the motherboard.


ehhhh not totally true. you can short the leads by hand with a bit of wire on the power switch pins...but i usually do that if i suspect my power switch is broken. which it might be worth checking!


Well is there a schematic or something I could look at that shows how to plug everything in? I am just really new at all of this. I plugged in the power, reset, speaker, hdd led, and the usb and audio but im not sure if the power and such are plugged in right


Well the power switch is just a switch, it isn't polarity sensitive, as long as you have it connected to the right two pins on the header it should work. That said, atomicWar could be right and you have a bum switch. His troubleshooting step is a bit more advance than your experience allows. You need to be sure which pins are the power switch pins before you go shorting stuff or you could wreck you motherboard and/or more. Look at your motherboard manual, it should have a section on connectors and it will cover all the connectors on the motherboard. It will clearly show you which pins on the header are meant for which cables from your case.
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March 25, 2013 10:23:49 AM

Nick Sumbot said:
atomicWAR said:
techgeek said:
Nick Sumbot said:
Ths is the enclosure and I am not completely sure how the power and reset buttons plu in
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


If you don't have the power switch from your case wired to the header on your motherboard, it's not going to come on. There should be a bunch of wires coming from your case. One will be power, one will be reset, one for HDD LED, one for front USB ports, one for front panel audio, etc. At a minimum you need the power one plugged into the motherboard. The power switch on the PSU isn't going to turn your computer on. The motherboard monitors the switch and when it's closed, it will allow power to supply the rest of the motherboard.


ehhhh not totally true. you can short the leads by hand with a bit of wire on the power switch pins...but i usually do that if i suspect my power switch is broken. which it might be worth checking!


Well is there a schematic or something I could look at that shows how to plug everything in? I am just really new at all of this. I plugged in the power, reset, speaker, hdd led, and the usb and audio but im not sure if the power and such are plugged in right


this is from your manual....it is just that.

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March 25, 2013 10:28:46 AM

atomicWAR said:
Nick Sumbot said:
atomicWAR said:
techgeek said:
Nick Sumbot said:
Ths is the enclosure and I am not completely sure how the power and reset buttons plu in
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


If you don't have the power switch from your case wired to the header on your motherboard, it's not going to come on. There should be a bunch of wires coming from your case. One will be power, one will be reset, one for HDD LED, one for front USB ports, one for front panel audio, etc. At a minimum you need the power one plugged into the motherboard. The power switch on the PSU isn't going to turn your computer on. The motherboard monitors the switch and when it's closed, it will allow power to supply the rest of the motherboard.


ehhhh not totally true. you can short the leads by hand with a bit of wire on the power switch pins...but i usually do that if i suspect my power switch is broken. which it might be worth checking!


Well is there a schematic or something I could look at that shows how to plug everything in? I am just really new at all of this. I plugged in the power, reset, speaker, hdd led, and the usb and audio but im not sure if the power and such are plugged in right


this is from your manual....it is just that.



What is the PLED? do I need that becase my case doesnt have a cord for that
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March 25, 2013 10:30:29 AM

do you have the switch on the power supply on? Is it set to the right voltage (110/220 etc?)

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March 25, 2013 10:33:19 AM

Power LED is not needed for booting. Odd that your case doesn't have one. It's just an LED on the case that indicates that the computer is on.

Good job with the manual atomicWar, I was trying to do that just now, but I am in Yemen on a slow-assed satellite connection.
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March 25, 2013 10:37:33 AM

techgeek said:
Power LED is not needed for booting. Odd that your case doesn't have one. It's just an LED on the case that indicates that the computer is on.

Good job with the manual atomicWar, I was trying to do that just now, but I am in Yemen on a slow-assed satellite connection.


So how would I fix my power switch? or how would I turn on the system without the switch
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March 25, 2013 10:39:46 AM

see the two pin on the bottom middle right of the diagram that say PWRSW touch a wire to both of them and it will turn on (assuming it just your power switch that is broken)
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March 25, 2013 10:44:17 AM

atomicWAR said:
see the two pin on the bottom middle right of the diagram that say PWRSW touch a wire to both of them and it will turn on (assuming it just your power switch that is broken)


Yeah that's the thing though is I am not sure if it is broken or not because I have everything plugged in the way the manual says it should be yet nothing turns on besides the LED on the motherboard
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March 25, 2013 10:46:36 AM

well touching a wire to them will rule out a bad power switch. did it work?

its a good sign your seeing an led lit up!
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March 25, 2013 10:53:15 AM

atomicWAR said:
well touching a wire to them will rule out a bad power switch. did it work?

its a good sign your seeing an led lit up!


I think that's the same LED he indicated was on in his first post.
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March 25, 2013 10:56:38 AM

atomicWAR said:
well touching a wire to them will rule out a bad power switch. did it work?

its a good sign your seeing an led lit up!


I touched the wires to the two pins and it made a sound not through the speaker though but still nothing turned on how long would I normall have to wait for something to happen?
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March 25, 2013 11:04:26 AM

it would only have to be touched for about a second maybe two.
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March 25, 2013 11:05:45 AM

is your motherboard in your case? or did you try the static paper thing i told you about?
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March 25, 2013 5:32:03 PM

Well I went through made sure everything was plugged in correctly and somehow it worked and I was able to get to the BIOS
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March 25, 2013 8:29:10 PM

good to here. everything working good now?
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March 25, 2013 10:51:42 PM

Nick Sumbot said:
Well I went through made sure everything was plugged in correctly and somehow it worked and I was able to get to the BIOS


Usually that's what it is, something not seated correctly, that's always a good place to start. Well good luck and let us know how you make out.
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March 25, 2013 10:57:40 PM

be sure to pass the solution love on to one of us....flip a coin if need be i know we all helped a lot.
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March 25, 2013 11:02:36 PM

atomicWAR said:
techgeek said:
Nick Sumbot said:
Ths is the enclosure and I am not completely sure how the power and reset buttons plu in
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


If you don't have the power switch from your case wired to the header on your motherboard, it's not going to come on. There should be a bunch of wires coming from your case. One will be power, one will be reset, one for HDD LED, one for front USB ports, one for front panel audio, etc. At a minimum you need the power one plugged into the motherboard. The power switch on the PSU isn't going to turn your computer on. The motherboard monitors the switch and when it's closed, it will allow power to supply the rest of the motherboard.


ehhhh not totally true. you can short the leads by hand with a bit of wire on the power switch pins on the motherboard...but i usually do that if i suspect my power switch is broken. which it might be worth checking!


When I first put my system together, I didn't get the wires quite right, and it didn't power on, and noticed my motherboard came with a power button on the motherboard itself, and to my surprise, my system powered up using that button. It helped me realize exactly what the problem was so I could fix the wire setup.
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March 25, 2013 11:05:50 PM

i am happy to receive the solution love then :) 
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