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March 25, 2013 10:14:42 AM

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COOLER MASTER Storm Enforcer

Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 1tb 3.5 inch

MSI R7950 Twin Frozr 3GD5/OC Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

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GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K

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COOLER MASTER R4-L2R-20AC-GP 120mm Blue LED Case cooler

COOLER MASTER Megaflow 200 R4-LUS-07AB-GP 200mm Blue LED Case cooler




I have heard that the cooler master hyper 212 evo is the best aftermarket cpu cooler, but do I need one besides the one that comes with the cpu? I have heard that you don't need one unless you overclock your cpu, which I don't plan to do initially, but if the cpu falls behind in the future I might.
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March 25, 2013 10:25:03 AM

cooler master hyper 212 is a good value cooler but its not the best cooler out there. since you picked an unlocked cpu yea i would advise to get a cooler so you can overclock it when you feel like tinkering with your pc. best air coolers are noctua, look into enclosed water coolers such as h80i or h100i....I'm using the h100 and I love it
you can also save some money by downgrading the psu to 650w~
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March 25, 2013 10:25:24 AM

Yup, If you don't plan on overclocking then you probably won't need it.
I have a Hyper 212 evo and I OC'ed my i5-3570k to 4.5ghz.
Max temps are 65 Celsius.

Really good cooler
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March 25, 2013 10:25:43 AM

It's not critical, your system will run fine. But:
They're inexpensive and it is much easier to install it now, than to take everything apart later.
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March 25, 2013 10:31:12 AM

USAFRet said:
It's not critical, your system will run fine. But:
They're inexpensive and it is much easier to install it now, than to take everything apart later.


+1 ^

Need... no.

But I would recommend a cm hyper212. It is<$30. Even without overclocking, the larger 120mm fan will be much quieter and get some of the graphics card heat out of the case more directly.
The backplate mount will be easier too. The Intel pushpin mount can be tricky to do well.

Also, the 7950 only needs a 500w psu, or 700w if you plan on crossfire which I rarely recommend.
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March 25, 2013 10:33:40 AM

alvine said:
cooler master hyper 212 is a good value cooler but its not the best cooler out there. since you picked an unlocked cpu yea i would advise to get a cooler so you can overclock it when you feel like tinkering with your pc. best air coolers are noctua, look into enclosed water coolers such as h80i or h100i....I'm using the h100 and I love it
you can also save some money by downgrading the psu to 650w~


Is the 650w psu enough power for this build? because if so, you just saved me about $60 :D 
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March 25, 2013 10:38:24 AM

xXThe Noob Zombie Z Xx said:
alvine said:
cooler master hyper 212 is a good value cooler but its not the best cooler out there. since you picked an unlocked cpu yea i would advise to get a cooler so you can overclock it when you feel like tinkering with your pc. best air coolers are noctua, look into enclosed water coolers such as h80i or h100i....I'm using the h100 and I love it
you can also save some money by downgrading the psu to 650w~


Is the 650w psu enough power for this build? because if so, you just saved me about $60 :D 

That is about the size I would buy.
Here is a chart of recommendations: http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm
Above all, buy only a quality unit. Here is a list for that: http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

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March 25, 2013 10:42:03 AM

If you are not going to SLI/CF, 650W is a little overkill but not terribly so (520-550 is fine). If you think you *might* ever SLI/CF, I'd go at least 750W.

Edit: and I would agree that putting the Evo on when you initially build it is easiest. Since you have an unlocked CPU and mobo to support it, kind of a waste not to (given how insanely easy and safe it's become - 20%/4.2GHz overclock without any effort).
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March 25, 2013 10:48:16 AM

Headbomb said:
Yup, If you don't plan on overclocking then you probably won't need it.
I have a Hyper 212 evo and I OC'ed my i5-3570k to 4.5ghz.
Max temps are 65 Celsius.

Really good cooler


+1 for headbomb

If you are overclocking you should get a 3rd party HSF to deal the increased temperatures.

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March 25, 2013 10:50:34 AM

geofelt said:
USAFRet said:
It's not critical, your system will run fine. But:
They're inexpensive and it is much easier to install it now, than to take everything apart later.


+1 ^

Need... no.

But I would recommend a cm hyper212. It is<$30. Even without overclocking, the larger 120mm fan will be much quieter and get some of the graphics card heat out of the case more directly.
The backplate mount will be easier too. The Intel pushpin mount can be tricky to do well.

Also, the 7950 only needs a 500w psu, or 700w if you plan on crossfire which I rarely recommend.


well, if it needs 500w, it only leaves 150w free, also if I overclock that will take some more power, so isn't that a lot for the psu? Aren't you not supposed to run you psu at near its max capacity, or am I wrong?
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March 25, 2013 11:15:36 AM

xXThe Noob Zombie Z Xx said:
geofelt said:
USAFRet said:
It's not critical, your system will run fine. But:
They're inexpensive and it is much easier to install it now, than to take everything apart later.


+1 ^

Need... no.

But I would recommend a cm hyper212. It is<$30. Even without overclocking, the larger 120mm fan will be much quieter and get some of the graphics card heat out of the case more directly.
The backplate mount will be easier too. The Intel pushpin mount can be tricky to do well.

Also, the 7950 only needs a 500w psu, or 700w if you plan on crossfire which I rarely recommend.


well, if it needs 500w, it only leaves 150w free, also if I overclock that will take some more power, so isn't that a lot for the psu? Aren't you not supposed to run you psu at near its max capacity, or am I wrong?


Overclocking a cpu does not significantly increase the power required. It is the graphics configuration that is most important.
A bit of overprovisioning for a psu is fine. A psu operates most efficiently and quietly in the middle third of it's range. It will consume only the power demanded of it, regardless of it's maximum capability.
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March 25, 2013 12:22:44 PM

geofelt said:
xXThe Noob Zombie Z Xx said:
geofelt said:
USAFRet said:
It's not critical, your system will run fine. But:
They're inexpensive and it is much easier to install it now, than to take everything apart later.


+1 ^

Need... no.

But I would recommend a cm hyper212. It is<$30. Even without overclocking, the larger 120mm fan will be much quieter and get some of the graphics card heat out of the case more directly.
The backplate mount will be easier too. The Intel pushpin mount can be tricky to do well.

Also, the 7950 only needs a 500w psu, or 700w if you plan on crossfire which I rarely recommend.


well, if it needs 500w, it only leaves 150w free, also if I overclock that will take some more power, so isn't that a lot for the psu? Aren't you not supposed to run you psu at near its max capacity, or am I wrong?


Overclocking a cpu does not significantly increase the power required. It is the graphics configuration that is most important.
A bit of overprovisioning for a psu is fine. A psu operates most efficiently and quietly in the middle third of it's range. It will consume only the power demanded of it, regardless of it's maximum capability.


ok, thanks i will go with the 650w and save myself some money
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March 25, 2013 12:58:13 PM

Should be fine - says it has two 6+2 pin PCI-E connectors and the two you need for the mobo.
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March 25, 2013 1:20:57 PM

J_E_D_70 said:
Should be fine - says it has two 6+2 pin PCI-E connectors and the two you need for the mobo.


ok, thanks, im just kinda freaking out, because i've never even installed ram in a computer, much less completely built one. :??: 
But, I think with these forums, and a little help from youtube videos, i should be able to pull it off :D 
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March 25, 2013 2:12:15 PM

Should toss in a $5 anti-static wrist strap to the order. Better safe than sorry. If you need the $5 for a latte, at least touch the metal frame inside the case periodically while working and don't drag your socked feet around on the carpet...
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March 25, 2013 2:17:55 PM

xXThe Noob Zombie Z Xx said:
wait a minute, correct me if i'm wrong, but this psu ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ) doesn't have all of the connections needed for this motherboard and graphics card combo

Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



So, i need the hx850 right?

You are good. The graphics card goes into the pci/e x16 slot. It will get 75w from the motherboard without any other connections.
The psu has a pair of aux p6/8 pin power connectors. The 6 pin part of each goes into the graphics card. Leave the +2 pins dangling; they are there in case your graphics card needed a 8 pin connector. Each one supplies up to 75w of added power for the graphics card.

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