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March 25, 2013 12:20:11 PM

My friend recently gave me his Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT when he upgraded. I uninstalled the drivers from my own graphics card, and then used driver sweeper to clean out registry entries even though both cards are Nvidia. Afterwards I properly seated the new card, and turned the computer on. It goes to the post screen and then BSODs with no mouse pointer or text or anything.
March 25, 2013 12:28:33 PM

I don't know that much about POST but does it make one beep or nothing at all?
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a c 218 U Graphics card
a b B Homebuilt system
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March 25, 2013 12:30:28 PM

What make/model of Nvdia video card did you upgrade to? If applicable, did you connect the PCIe power (external power) to the new video card?
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March 25, 2013 12:35:35 PM

I dont know much about post either, but from what I do know, no beeps. Upgrading from a GeForce 6200 to Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT from Zotac. Theres no ports for external power on the card, I checked.

My motherboard is an ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe, with no onboard GPU. The card and mobo are compatible if thats worth mentioning.
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March 25, 2013 12:52:38 PM

Icecastle said:
I dont know much about post either, but from what I do know, no beeps. Upgrading from a GeForce 6200 to Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT from Zotac. Theres no ports for external power on the card, I checked.

My motherboard is an ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe, with no onboard GPU. The card and mobo are compatible if thats worth mentioning.


then that means the culprit is either (in the most probable order) PSU > Mobo > CPU
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a b U Graphics card
March 25, 2013 12:53:48 PM

give us your system specs...cpu,ram,motherboard,psu,etc..
We will try and figure this out.
JQ

update:
Sometimes the card is inadvertently shocked by static electricity when handled and can kill the card.. but we won't go there yet!
Your system works fine with your old card even now?
I would... clean the contacts of the card with an electrical contact clear and cue-tips.
Then I would spray the PCI-E slot with the contact cleaner and insert - remove, insert - remove the card a few times and finally insert an leave the card in place for a half hour.
Then I would try powering up again and see if that helped.
Otherwise, try the card in another system and see if the card is infact dead or working!!
JQ
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March 25, 2013 1:15:37 PM

hmm, dont know the specs exactly but...

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ running at 2.2 GHz
RAM: 4x 1GB Kingston DDR RAM
PSU: Antec SL400 400W Output
MB: ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
Monitor: Sony Playstation Monitor

GPU I am using: EVGA Nvidia GeForce 6200
GPU I am upgrading to: Zotac Nvidia Geforce 8600 GT
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March 25, 2013 1:20:38 PM

Icecastle said:
hmm, dont know the specs exactly but...

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ running at 2.2 GHz
RAM: 4x 1GB Kingston DDR RAM
PSU: Antec SL400 400W Output
MB: ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
Monitor: Sony Playstation Monitor

GPU I am using: EVGA Nvidia GeForce 6200
GPU I am upgrading to: Zotac Nvidia Geforce 8600 GT


maybe your PSU can't support that extra power consumption?
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March 25, 2013 1:28:24 PM

Cyanide I was looking around the Nvidia specs for the different cards and the PSU should only majorly affect the card if theres external power going to the card I believe. There is no external power going to it.

I can also hear the fan on the card running, if that makes a difference.
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March 25, 2013 1:30:40 PM

johnnyq1233 said:
give us your system specs...cpu,ram,motherboard,psu,etc..
We will try and figure this out.
JQ

update:
Sometimes the card is inadvertently shocked by static electricity when handled and can kill the card.. but we won't go there yet!
Your system works fine with your old card even now?
I would... clean the contacts of the card with an electrical contact clear and cue-tips.
Then I would spray the PCI-E slot with the contact cleaner and insert - remove, insert - remove the card a few times and finally insert an leave the card in place for a half hour.
Then I would try powering up again and see if that helped.
Otherwise, try the card in another system and see if the card is infact dead or working!!
JQ


Where can I get this contact cleaner/how much? And yes the system runs just fine with the old card. I also made sure to ground myself before handling the card to make sure it wouldnt fry, unless it sometimes happens out of the blue?

Also I know this is the worst idea ever, but if its a driver issue, could I put both cards in, and download and install drivers for the upgrade, and then shutdown take the old card out, and reboot with the new one?
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a b U Graphics card
March 25, 2013 3:07:50 PM

Icecastle said:
johnnyq1233 said:
give us your system specs...cpu,ram,motherboard,psu,etc..
We will try and figure this out.
JQ

update:
Sometimes the card is inadvertently shocked by static electricity when handled and can kill the card.. but we won't go there yet!
Your system works fine with your old card even now?
I would... clean the contacts of the card with an electrical contact clear and cue-tips.
Then I would spray the PCI-E slot with the contact cleaner and insert - remove, insert - remove the card a few times and finally insert an leave the card in place for a half hour.
Then I would try powering up again and see if that helped.
Otherwise, try the card in another system and see if the card is infact dead or working!!
JQ


Where can I get this contact cleaner/how much? And yes the system runs just fine with the old card. I also made sure to ground myself before handling the card to make sure it wouldnt fry, unless it sometimes happens out of the blue?

Also I know this is the worst idea ever, but if its a driver issue, could I put both cards in, and download and install drivers for the upgrade, and then shutdown take the old card out, and reboot with the new one?

no youll be asking for more trouble then. with sli drivers and more headaches. your 6200 plays fine right....you can swap it in and out? you did a bios upgrade for your mobo? go to igp make sure its not a monitor problem? is your friend a good mate? did he sell you a dead card?

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March 25, 2013 3:31:12 PM

Icecastle said:
Cyanide I was looking around the Nvidia specs for the different cards and the PSU should only majorly affect the card if theres external power going to the card I believe. There is no external power going to it.

I can also hear the fan on the card running, if that makes a difference.


Ah right :p  sorry I didn't read it as well then but you should follow the suggestions given by jonnyq, and don't forget to check the PSU > Mobo > CPU
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March 25, 2013 3:32:45 PM

ARICH5 said:
Icecastle said:
johnnyq1233 said:
give us your system specs...cpu,ram,motherboard,psu,etc..
We will try and figure this out.
JQ

update:
Sometimes the card is inadvertently shocked by static electricity when handled and can kill the card.. but we won't go there yet!
Your system works fine with your old card even now?
I would... clean the contacts of the card with an electrical contact clear and cue-tips.
Then I would spray the PCI-E slot with the contact cleaner and insert - remove, insert - remove the card a few times and finally insert an leave the card in place for a half hour.
Then I would try powering up again and see if that helped.
Otherwise, try the card in another system and see if the card is infact dead or working!!
JQ


Where can I get this contact cleaner/how much? And yes the system runs just fine with the old card. I also made sure to ground myself before handling the card to make sure it wouldnt fry, unless it sometimes happens out of the blue?

Also I know this is the worst idea ever, but if its a driver issue, could I put both cards in, and download and install drivers for the upgrade, and then shutdown take the old card out, and reboot with the new one?

no youll be asking for more trouble then. with sli drivers and more headaches. your 6200 plays fine right....you can swap it in and out? you did a bios upgrade for your mobo? go to igp make sure its not a monitor problem? is your friend a good mate? did he sell you a dead card?



He's a good mate, he didn't make me pay for the card, it may be dead, don't have another computer to test it on, the 6200 runs fine, and I tried to update the mobo bios, but it wouldnt let me. And I'm not sure how to check if its a monitor problem.
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March 25, 2013 3:35:09 PM

Icecastle said:
ARICH5 said:
Icecastle said:
johnnyq1233 said:
give us your system specs...cpu,ram,motherboard,psu,etc..
We will try and figure this out.
JQ

update:
Sometimes the card is inadvertently shocked by static electricity when handled and can kill the card.. but we won't go there yet!
Your system works fine with your old card even now?
I would... clean the contacts of the card with an electrical contact clear and cue-tips.
Then I would spray the PCI-E slot with the contact cleaner and insert - remove, insert - remove the card a few times and finally insert an leave the card in place for a half hour.
Then I would try powering up again and see if that helped.
Otherwise, try the card in another system and see if the card is infact dead or working!!
JQ


Where can I get this contact cleaner/how much? And yes the system runs just fine with the old card. I also made sure to ground myself before handling the card to make sure it wouldnt fry, unless it sometimes happens out of the blue?

Also I know this is the worst idea ever, but if its a driver issue, could I put both cards in, and download and install drivers for the upgrade, and then shutdown take the old card out, and reboot with the new one?

no youll be asking for more trouble then. with sli drivers and more headaches. your 6200 plays fine right....you can swap it in and out? you did a bios upgrade for your mobo? go to igp make sure its not a monitor problem? is your friend a good mate? did he sell you a dead card?



He's a good mate, he didn't make me pay for the card, it may be dead, don't have another computer to test it on, the 6200 runs fine, and I tried to update the mobo bios, but it wouldnt let me. And I'm not sure how to check if its a monitor problem.


if its dead then I think you can do a couple of searches on google to find out how to check it.
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March 25, 2013 3:45:39 PM

Cyanide Reverse said:
Icecastle said:
ARICH5 said:
Icecastle said:
johnnyq1233 said:
give us your system specs...cpu,ram,motherboard,psu,etc..
We will try and figure this out.
JQ

update:
Sometimes the card is inadvertently shocked by static electricity when handled and can kill the card.. but we won't go there yet!
Your system works fine with your old card even now?
I would... clean the contacts of the card with an electrical contact clear and cue-tips.
Then I would spray the PCI-E slot with the contact cleaner and insert - remove, insert - remove the card a few times and finally insert an leave the card in place for a half hour.
Then I would try powering up again and see if that helped.
Otherwise, try the card in another system and see if the card is infact dead or working!!
JQ


Where can I get this contact cleaner/how much? And yes the system runs just fine with the old card. I also made sure to ground myself before handling the card to make sure it wouldnt fry, unless it sometimes happens out of the blue?

Also I know this is the worst idea ever, but if its a driver issue, could I put both cards in, and download and install drivers for the upgrade, and then shutdown take the old card out, and reboot with the new one?

no youll be asking for more trouble then. with sli drivers and more headaches. your 6200 plays fine right....you can swap it in and out? you did a bios upgrade for your mobo? go to igp make sure its not a monitor problem? is your friend a good mate? did he sell you a dead card?



He's a good mate, he didn't make me pay for the card, it may be dead, don't have another computer to test it on, the 6200 runs fine, and I tried to update the mobo bios, but it wouldnt let me. And I'm not sure how to check if its a monitor problem.


if its dead then I think you can do a couple of searches on google to find out how to check it.


Alright, if its not dead and I have to follow JQ's directions, where do i get the spray he was talking about?

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March 25, 2013 3:49:57 PM

Hmm, found a page on the techspot forums with the same type of problem I'm having, and the problem was either the PSU or GPU, and he bought a new PSU and it didnt work, so I think the card might be faulty. I'll try to find a computer to test it on, and if that works, I'll follow JQ's idea.

I also have only tested the card in one of the PCIe slots, I will give the other one a try and post results.

UPDATE: The second port gave the same results, I'm thinking its something to do with the card. I will test it in a different computer, and follow JQ's directions regardless.
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March 25, 2013 5:09:51 PM

Icecastle said:
Hmm, found a page on the techspot forums with the same type of problem I'm having, and the problem was either the PSU or GPU, and he bought a new PSU and it didnt work, so I think the card might be faulty. I'll try to find a computer to test it on, and if that works, I'll follow JQ's idea.

I also have only tested the card in one of the PCIe slots, I will give the other one a try and post results.

UPDATE: The second port gave the same results, I'm thinking its something to do with the card. I will test it in a different computer, and follow JQ's directions regardless.


I found some of the sprays on amazon, you can have a look here
http://tinyurl.com/cgehqmc
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March 25, 2013 10:33:58 PM

Thank you everyone for all your help, it means a lot to know there are people who not only know how to fix these problems, but will help other people as well.
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March 26, 2013 11:20:54 AM

So have you solved your problem or is something still the matter?
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a c 218 U Graphics card
a b B Homebuilt system
a b Î Nvidia
March 26, 2013 11:25:34 AM

Welcome to Tom's Forums. This is a great community, as you have noted, and now you are part of the team. Good luck!
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March 27, 2013 2:04:27 AM

Cyanide Reverse said:
So have you solved your problem or is something still the matter?


I currently have no money for the spray or another computer to test this card on, so for now it is unresolved. I'm quite sure the card is fried, I just need another computer to test it it on. I have another desktop but it's only PCI.

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March 29, 2013 6:13:03 PM

Icecastle said:
Cyanide Reverse said:
So have you solved your problem or is something still the matter?


I currently have no money for the spray or another computer to test this card on, so for now it is unresolved. I'm quite sure the card is fried, I just need another computer to test it it on. I have another desktop but it's only PCI.



Not sure if those who have helped me are still monitoring this thread, but I tested the card on a different computer and it worked. I believe the problem was my PSU isn't strong enough to run it, so I'm saving my pennies, or rather nickels, for a 750W PSU. Thank you for all your help, hope to see you elsewhere on the forums.

Cheers,
Icecastle

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March 31, 2013 7:15:14 AM

Don't forget to get a PSU with an efficiency of at least 80% Bronze, this will lengthen the life of your PSU.
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