PC no longer boots with NEW video card :-(

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Clay Campbell

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Hi all. I'm hoping someone can tell me they've dealt with a situation like this:

Bought a PNY gtx 660ti off of ebay recently in a sweet deal. Have played on it over the last month without a hitch (except with Tomb Raider). Though it would appear to be unrelated to my problem, I installed a beta driver from nvidia last night, and have since rebooted several times without any problems.

When I got home from work today and turned the machine on it hung on the motherboard's (MSI 890fxa gd-65) intro screen. This has been happening occasionally lately; bothersome, but nothing I'd tried to conquer just yet, as it normally boots successfully on second try. This time, however, rebooting didn't work - it perpetually hangs.

I tried everything from reseating EVERYTHING to changing out power connectors to removing components to swapping ram to resetting bios to.... The one thing that finally got the thing to boot was when I installed my old graphics card. Easy enough, I thought, this MUST have something to do with the driver from last night. I booted in with the old card (a radeon) and thoroughly uninstalled all things nvidia, followed by a Ccleaner broken registry search. Still no dice...

Here's what I'm praying for: that the occasional failure to boot that I've been seeing has to do with a dying power supply. The radeon that works requires only one 6-pin power connector, undoubtedly drawing less power. I remember having a power supply crap on me long ago that would cause a reboot every time I opened a game, thus throwing the graphics into 3d mode and causing just that little bit of extra draw that would kill it. Replacing that power supply fixed the problem.

What I'm terrified of: that this one-month old graphics card just died on me all of a sudden! The power draw theory seems like it may fall flat in light of the fact that I've tried to unhook all non-critical system fans and remove all unnecessary components (sound card, wireless card, etc) during this nightmare.

Throughout all of this I've been unable to get into bios or safe mode - there's just that initial nvidia ID screen, then the stupid MSI logo, and then it sits...and sits...

Phenom II x6 1045t
MSI 890fxa gd-65
2x4 GB of G Skill somethinorother ram sticks ddr3
PNY gtx 660ti
Rocketfish 500 Watt Power supply (about 2 yrs old)

Hopefully I've not forgotten any critical bits of info. I hope someone has some ideas that help me to keep from wasting more time and $$$.

Thanks so much for any and all advice!
 
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one of two things come to mind....both capacitor related...if your board is getting old and your caps are wearing out it can cause uneven power and kill system stability. the other is the same but in regards to you PSU which is not a good one. i suggest getting a better PSu by seasonic, xfx or corsair. also if u have a spare psu around try swapping it out and see if it helps.
 
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Hey atomic - thanks for your reply.

Funny you mention caps - my mobo, which is about 2 yrs old also, is touted as having "Hi-c CAP Tantalum core" caps, rated for a 10 year lifetime. This leads me away from the mobo and back toward to PSU.

Do you think it would suddenly become 100% unable to boot with this card overnight like that, while able to boot with the old radeon? It just seems so bizarre to me, like it would've gotten part way in at least once today.

Anyway, I don't have any spare PSUs around here that aren't from the stone age - they don't have all the required connections for mobo + the video card. I'm gonna see if my work's IT dept has anything I can borrow for tomorrow night.

The fact that you're leaning away from the video card (at least enough to entertain that it may be a power related issue) gives me hope. Single parents don't mix well with expensive problems... ;-)

Thanks so much for your input!
 
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Well I'd even gladly replace a mobo in favor of this video card! If I just sank $240 into maybe 5 hours worth of gaming, well, I'll just start crying...

I'll definitely keep up with this thread throughout this adventure/nightmare.

Thanks again!
 
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Aright, I vowed to keep up with the progress in my adventure, so here I am again.

Finally decided I had enough money to drop on a new psu, so I just tried it...with no success. Again, I put the older video card in and it boots right up. I guess the hope that the issue was a dying power supply is bunk, as a new and even beefier 600 watter won't bring it to life.

I'd still even love to lean in the direction of a new mobo, as it would be cheaper than this damned video card, but the fact that everything works with the older one makes it seem unlikely(?)

I don't know how these forums work exactly, like if anyone will get to read this, but I hope and pray someone has a magic solution out there. I just can't swallow the fact that I may have dropped $240 on a month's worth of joy...

:-(
 
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sorry i been sick...if one video card is working and another is not i don't think your board is the issue. With the new PSU you know your new card is getting enough power but not working...while your other card works fine on the board...its got get the new GPU. Have you been able to test it in another mother board to be certain?
 
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