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March 26, 2013 10:16:21 AM

Hey , I'm trying to build my own new computer! And I'm actually a beginner in this field , so any help would be highly appreciated!

Here's my specs:-

1) Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme6 LGA1155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
2) Processor: Intel Core i5-3570k 3.4GHz LGA1155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
3) RAM: G.Skill RipjawsZ 16gb Kit (4x4) Quad Channel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
4) CPU Cooler:Noctua NH-D14
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
5) Power Supply Unit: Silverstone Strider 850W 80Plus Gold
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
6) Case:Thermaltake Chase MK-l
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
7) Storage: CrucialM4 128GB SSD & WD 1TB Black Caviar
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-148-...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
8) Sound Card: Asus Xonar Essence STX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
9) Wifi & Bluetooth Card : Gigabyte GC-WB300D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
10) Graphic Card: Sapphire HD7970 Vapor-X 3GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Question:-
1) Any other Mobo better than Extreme6 at the same price range?
2) Would it make a difference if the RAM is Quad Channel while the Mobo is Dual?
3) Should I choose GTX 670 over HD7970?
4) 1 SSD = 256GB or 1SSD=128GB + 1HDD=1TB?
5) Better case than what I had listed but around the same price range
6) Should I change the Noctua to Hydro H80? or Hyper Evo 212?

I'm sorry if it is too long , I really hope all of you would comment on my specs and tell me the Pros and Cons!
(I only use newegg sites as references as I live in Asia)

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March 26, 2013 10:35:46 AM

This is a very good build overall. I'd recommend a good Asus Z77 board though.

You should get this memory instead, 8GB is more than enough and less sticks is always good:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Choose the 7970 GHz.

Case: Haf X or Haf 922

1 SSD + 1TB is optimal for you until SSD prices drop.

Noctua is good, but I would say Hydro H80 so you don't have something heavy hanging off motherboard.

For motherboards, any would be great:

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77
ASUS P8Z77-V (More Budget Friendly)
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March 26, 2013 11:11:59 AM

edogawa said:
This is a very good build overall. I'd recommend a good Asus Z77 board though.

You should get this memory instead, 8GB is more than enough and less sticks is always good:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Choose the 7970 GHz.

Case: Haf X or Haf 922

1 SSD + 1TB is optimal for you until SSD prices drop.

Noctua is good, but I would say Hydro H80 so you don't have something heavy hanging off motherboard.

For motherboards, any would be great:

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77
ASUS P8Z77-V (More Budget Friendly)


So,
1) 1SSD+1HDD it is !
2) My choice of graphic card is ok? or nvidia better?
3) I might go with the Asus P8Z77-V PRO
4) Why is the ram you suggested is better?
5) The case you suggested have good reviews?
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March 26, 2013 2:32:56 PM

Sorry for late reply.

AMD has fantastic graphics cards. Some games may perform better Nvidia or AMD cards, but only by a small margin.

8GB is plenty, and it's better to run less sticks such as 2x4 or 2x8, plus these are low voltage.

Yes, both of those cases are highly rated and loved by many.

Choosing a case is a bit personal, preference for case design is up to the buyer for the most part.

Various HAF series cases:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
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March 26, 2013 2:43:32 PM

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1) Any other Mobo better than Extreme6 at the same price range?
2) Would it make a difference if the RAM is Quad Channel while the Mobo is Dual?
3) Should I choose GTX 670 over HD7970?
4) 1 SSD = 256GB or 1SSD=128GB + 1HDD=1TB?
5) Better case than what I had listed but around the same price range
6) Should I change the Noctua to Hydro H80? or Hyper Evo 212?


1. Only one I would consider otherwise would be the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 but the Extreme 6 is a pretty solid board.

2. Yes - quad channel is meant for X79 systems. Z77 systems use dual channel.

3. Depends. If you're going for gaming both are excellent choices. But some coolers are better than others. For NVIDIA go with the Gigabyte Windforce 3X. For 7970 go with the Sapphire Vapor X.

4. Definitely go the 128GB SSD + 1TB route. Go with an OCZ Vector and a Western Digital Caviar Blue. Extremely efficient cost per GB ratio and you get the single fastest SSD on the market (currently).

5. The aforementioned HAF X is a good choice but it's huge. Thermaltake I wouldn't recommend. Around that price range I'd *HIGHLY* recommend checking out the Fractal Design Define R4: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

6. No - stick with the Noctua. An H80 is not a recommended purchase. I'd also drop the sound card - it's incredibly expensive and you don't need it. Spend that money elsewhere.

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(I only use newegg sites as references as I live in Asia)


What country are you buying from and what store are you planning to use? Posting that will help to suggest a system. If you don't know a store the link in my signature will point you in the right direction (I use Google Chrome for translation and XE.com for currency conversion). What's available on Newegg and what's available where you live may not always work out.

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8GB is plenty, and it's better to run less sticks such as 2x4 or 2x8, plus these are low voltage.


NO. Stay away from low voltage RAM on Ivy Bridge builds. 1.5V only!

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For motherboards, any would be great:

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77
ASUS P8Z77-V (More Budget Friendly)


No, the Sabertooth is not a good choice. It's expensive, overrated, and the thermal armor traps more heat than it's supposed to prevent. And then the only thing Asus has done to combat this issue is to include two cheap plastic 80mm fans which only recirculate the already hot air underneath the board. It's not worth the money.
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March 26, 2013 3:09:08 PM

Low voltage ram is fine for ivy bridge, set it to 1.35v.

Sabertooth isn't a bad board, it may be slightly over priced.

The HAF X is big, but worth it, fantastic case. HAF 922 if you want smaller size.

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March 26, 2013 3:11:53 PM

edogawa said:
Low voltage ram is fine for ivy bridge, set it to 1.35v.

Sabertooth isn't a bad board, it may be slightly over priced.

The HAF X is big, but worth it, fantastic case. HAF 922 if you want smaller size.


If it didn't have that crappy thermal armor I'd agree it's not a bad board, but the thermal armor ruins it - it's a heat trap. I don't know why they continue to use that design - it's failed on Z68 and Z77. The 990FX and X79 variations don't have it and they're solid boards.
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March 26, 2013 3:16:27 PM

g-unit1111 said:
edogawa said:
Low voltage ram is fine for ivy bridge, set it to 1.35v.

Sabertooth isn't a bad board, it may be slightly over priced.

The HAF X is big, but worth it, fantastic case. HAF 922 if you want smaller size.


If it didn't have that crappy thermal armor I'd agree it's not a bad board, but the thermal armor ruins it - it's a heat trap. I don't know why they continue to use that design - it's failed on Z68 and Z77. The 990FX and X79 variations don't have it and they're solid boards.


I agree, but I think the thermal armor idea could have potential if done right.
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March 26, 2013 3:35:31 PM

edogawa said:
g-unit1111 said:
edogawa said:
Low voltage ram is fine for ivy bridge, set it to 1.35v.

Sabertooth isn't a bad board, it may be slightly over priced.

The HAF X is big, but worth it, fantastic case. HAF 922 if you want smaller size.


If it didn't have that crappy thermal armor I'd agree it's not a bad board, but the thermal armor ruins it - it's a heat trap. I don't know why they continue to use that design - it's failed on Z68 and Z77. The 990FX and X79 variations don't have it and they're solid boards.


I agree, but I think the thermal armor idea could have potential if done right.


Yeah they'd have to figure out someway to insulate the hardware underneath or keep the hot air from circulating. That goes way beyond my abilities. :lol: 
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March 27, 2013 8:40:28 AM

g-unit1111 said:
Quote:

1) Any other Mobo better than Extreme6 at the same price range?
2) Would it make a difference if the RAM is Quad Channel while the Mobo is Dual?
3) Should I choose GTX 670 over HD7970?
4) 1 SSD = 256GB or 1SSD=128GB + 1HDD=1TB?
5) Better case than what I had listed but around the same price range
6) Should I change the Noctua to Hydro H80? or Hyper Evo 212?


1. Only one I would consider otherwise would be the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP4 but the Extreme 6 is a pretty solid board.

2. Yes - quad channel is meant for X79 systems. Z77 systems use dual channel.

3. Depends. If you're going for gaming both are excellent choices. But some coolers are better than others. For NVIDIA go with the Gigabyte Windforce 3X. For 7970 go with the Sapphire Vapor X.

4. Definitely go the 128GB SSD + 1TB route. Go with an OCZ Vector and a Western Digital Caviar Blue. Extremely efficient cost per GB ratio and you get the single fastest SSD on the market (currently).

5. The aforementioned HAF X is a good choice but it's huge. Thermaltake I wouldn't recommend. Around that price range I'd *HIGHLY* recommend checking out the Fractal Design Define R4: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

6. No - stick with the Noctua. An H80 is not a recommended purchase. I'd also drop the sound card - it's incredibly expensive and you don't need it. Spend that money elsewhere.

Quote:
(I only use newegg sites as references as I live in Asia)


What country are you buying from and what store are you planning to use? Posting that will help to suggest a system. If you don't know a store the link in my signature will point you in the right direction (I use Google Chrome for translation and XE.com for currency conversion). What's available on Newegg and what's available where you live may not always work out.

Quote:
8GB is plenty, and it's better to run less sticks such as 2x4 or 2x8, plus these are low voltage.


NO. Stay away from low voltage RAM on Ivy Bridge builds. 1.5V only!

Quote:


For motherboards, any would be great:

ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77
ASUS P8Z77-V (More Budget Friendly)


No, the Sabertooth is not a good choice. It's expensive, overrated, and the thermal armor traps more heat than it's supposed to prevent. And then the only thing Asus has done to combat this issue is to include two cheap plastic 80mm fans which only recirculate the already hot air underneath the board. It's not worth the money.


1) I think I would pick the Asus P8Z77-V-PRO
2) 8GB of 1.5v ram is enough right? G.Skill Ripjaws ram is excellent right?
3) I currently living in Malaysia , I most buy my parts from local dealers as its easier
4) So, the Noctua is better than H80? I'm a lil bit confuse ..
5) The ssd you recommend , is it as good as Crucial M4 ( or better? )
6) I'll go with Sapphire Vapor-X for the graphics

Thanks for a quick reply , although I'm the one who's replying late ~
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March 27, 2013 9:32:23 AM

Miyuu said:

1) I think I would pick the Asus P8Z77-V-PRO
2) 8GB of 1.5v ram is enough right? G.Skill Ripjaws ram is excellent right?
3) I currently living in Malaysia , I most buy my parts from local dealers as its easier
4) So, the Noctua is better than H80? I'm a lil bit confuse ..
5) The ssd you recommend , is it as good as Crucial M4 ( or better? )
6) I'll go with Sapphire Vapor-X for the graphics

Thanks for a quick reply , although I'm the one who's replying late ~


1. That is a good choice.
2. Plenty. G.Skill is a good choice, Samsung makes some of the best RAM around.
3. Could you link to the store you are buying from?
4. Yes. Air is always better than closed liquid loops. If you're going to do liquid cooling use the real thing or not at all.
5. The M4 is a good choice but the Vector beats it in read - write tests: www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/425?vs=744
6. Good choice.
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March 27, 2013 9:57:32 AM

g-unit1111 said:
10564672,0,1116029 said:

1. That is a good choice.
2. Plenty. G.Skill is a good choice, Samsung makes some of the best RAM around.
3. Could you link to the store you are buying from?
4. Yes. Air is always better than closed liquid loops. If you're going to do liquid cooling use the real thing or not at all.
5. The M4 is a good choice but the Vector beats it in read - write tests: www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/425?vs=744
6. Good choice.
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1)Is it ok if I overclock on this board? Or can you suggest a good mobo for me to overclock i5-3570k
2)G.Skill it is! They look awesome to me than other rams
3)http://cyntrixtech.blogspot.com/ < they got most of my item (my friend recommend this dealer to me)
4)So Noctua NH-D14? How about Hyper 212? or any other cooling method that is around the same price?
5)I'll look into it!
6)I know right.. but should I change to Nvidia instead??
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March 27, 2013 10:08:55 AM

Miyuu said:
g-unit1111 said:
10564672,0,1116029 said:

1. That is a good choice.
2. Plenty. G.Skill is a good choice, Samsung makes some of the best RAM around.
3. Could you link to the store you are buying from?
4. Yes. Air is always better than closed liquid loops. If you're going to do liquid cooling use the real thing or not at all.
5. The M4 is a good choice but the Vector beats it in read - write tests: www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/425?vs=744
6. Good choice.
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1)Is it ok if I overclock on this board? Or can you suggest a good mobo for me to overclock i5-3570k
2)G.Skill it is! They look awesome to me than other rams
3)http://cyntrixtech.blogspot.com/ < they got most of my item (my friend recommend this dealer to me)
4)So Noctua NH-D14? How about Hyper 212? or any other cooling method that is around the same price?
5)I'll look into it!
6)I know right.. but should I change to Nvidia instead??
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That Asus board will overclock a 3570K without any effort.

Both the GTX 670 and Radeon 7970 are solid choices, you can't go wrong with either.
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