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Need help on building a new system! [noobie]

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March 28, 2013 4:01:00 PM

Hey guys, I am kind of new to customized computers. I know the main parts and I know what they're for. However, making a good price/value comparison is still a little tricky, even with benchmarking.

I am NOT building it myself, will have a webshop do that for me. I know it's cheaper, but I don't want to take any risks. And I am willing to pay a little extra for that;)

So here are some questions I have, if you can help me, please do!

1. Case: I chose the Cooler Master Silencio 550. I read that it has built-in sound-dampening foam layers and quiet fans. I chose this because, in my logic, it would allow me to use a standard processor cooler, instead of a quiet one, which is a lot more expensive. Furthermore, I like the simple, stylish look of it. I am not one for the LED-light and rambadoo around a computer;) So my question is, choosing that case, will my computer be silent? (Let's say, under 25dB?)

2. GPU: I am doubting between the ''GTX 660 Ti 2GB'' and the ''AMD Radeon HD 7870 XT jokerCard 2GB''. My main focus for the computer will be Skyrim on max settings (okay, AA can be 4x if it has to) + some visual mods to make it look better. Of course I play other games too, but Skyrim is my main focus for it. Games like Farcry 3 or other games that require more power, I don't play on PC. Will the AMD Radeon 7870 be enough for me?

3. CPU: Again, AMD or Intel? As far I could conclude from research, the AMD is again doing better price/performance, but the performance is in general lower. I am doubting between
-''AMD Zambezi X8 FX-8320, Eight-Core''
-''AMD Zambezi X8 FX-8350, Eight-Core''
-''Intel Core i5-3350P 3.10 GHz''
-''Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40 GHz''
(Again, Skyrim and lower-requiring games on max, nothing fancier than Skyrim really). Same question, what would you guys recommend? Maybe I need an even less fancy one than those above to play Skyrim on max? If so, tell me please!~

4. Motherboard: This is where my knowledge ends. Knowing which motherboards can handle which cards is above me. I know some stuff about the USB 3.0 etc. but that's all. So the motherboards I am doubting between if I choose AMD-based computer:
-''MSI 760GA-P43FX ''
-''Asus M5A78L-M/USB3''

and if I choose an Intel-based computer:
-''MSI B75MA-E33''
-''Asus Motherboard P8H77-V LE''

5. Working storage (if that is the correct English term): I take it 8GB DDR3 Corsair will be enough? I am not planning on overclocking or anything, so I won't need Vengeance right?

6. Power: 500W enough?

Let me stress this again: I would like to play Skyrim + Enhancement mods on max (except for AA if it requires too much) with at least 40 fps! Any games that are even fancier and require more power, I don't have to play on max, or might not play at all.

I guess that's it! Please include the number before your answer, will make it a lot easier for me!

And thanks in advance!

EDIT; oh one last thing, if what I listed here goes way above that which is required, please do tell me alternatives that are cheaper but still provide what I am looking for.

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March 28, 2013 5:12:50 PM

GPU - Definatly the gtx 660 ti

cpu - normaly i am amd fan but for those it goes to intel 3570k. the standard cpu for medium/high budget builds

motherboards don't really matter too much unless you plan to overclock big time. and seeing as you are not building at home, i'm guessing your not going to want to do that.

5) RAM - Definatly. again a lovely standard module from a high-reputation seller.

6) This is complicated because the overall wattage is not really very great indicator of well, anything. not even total wattage with budget psu sellers. go with a corsair 500w builder like this
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500
Psus is an area with many scams. look over previous posts here for any other reccomendations, but i have always used corsair.

Skyrim is a very well-coded bit of sofware and as such this system should be overkill but i am not sure of the particular modification's effect. i however would say plan for the future and if you can afford this kit go for it, if its overkill you can have a system to play most games you choose on your terms so long as you keep it working well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b52d_FaOlyY
this guy has the 660ti and a worse processor that you and hes maxed out at 90 fps
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March 28, 2013 5:29:23 PM

The 7950 is an amazing card, especially for AA. It can easily max out Skyrim with a good amount of mods.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNsymXutCp4

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($97.14 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($97.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($61.24 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1083.26
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-28 20:27 EDT-0400)

Remove the SSD, if you do not want fast boot times, to save some money.





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March 29, 2013 12:57:26 PM

Thanks for the help guys!

Let's say I wanted skyrim on max with the most extreme visual mods (I would say, the highest quality ENB?) and I went with the AMD FX 8320 and the GTX 660Ti. That should be enough right? I personally already find 40 fps enough, but the more the better. It might be overkill, but that's better than underestimation ;) 
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March 29, 2013 2:08:15 PM

I have a fx8350 and a hd 7870. my brother playes skyrim with alot of mods. Its around 30-55 fps ...
So you'll be fine with a gtx660ti or a hd 7950.
But i suggest you to buy a hd 7950 becuse can be overclocked to a hd 7970 and it has 3gb
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