New Internet connection... How fast of router needed?

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Moving out the country and into a huge city and cannot wait for faster Internet. Getting 30mbps set up through charter but only a modem... I need to supply my own wireless router. Wondering what speed I need to take full advantage of this 30mbps?

I'll be using wired for my desktops and the rest wireless - ps3, 360, wii U, iPad, iPhones, and my laptop. Not sure how fast the wireless cards are of the items I'm using wirelessly, I suppose that matters too.

Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks in advance!
 

john-b691

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I would suspect even the cheapest routers will be able to do 30m. Since you have some older 802.11g equipment the wireless speed is going to be limited by that. Even the fanciest router will run in compatibility mode and run everything at the slower speed. That is not to say I am recommending buying a 802.11g router just be aware a 802.11n that says 600m or 900m will not be any faster than a base model 802.11n because both are slowing down.

Look to spend between $50 and $75 and you should have no issues. There are many very powerful routers in that price bracket, you will have to read the reviews since every router seems to be hated by some and praised by others. There does not appear to be any "best" router.
 

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negative wireless g peeks at 20mbps real world...

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=726&Itemid=70&limit=1&limitstart=4
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=875&Itemid=70&limit=1&limitstart=3

needs wireless n 150 min as i said if he want to use all his speed...

 

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You are missing the point and contributing to much of the confusion. Yes is is a fact that 802.11n will run faster than 802.11g that is obvious. BUT according the the 802.11n standard you can not use the addition feature like 40mhz bands..which is all 150m is..when you have 802.11g device to support. In fact the only way to force the router to run the higher speed is to disable the support for the older protocols.

So until he can completely get rid of all this old 802.11g equipment it will make little difference which router he buys.

On top of this I did clearly state he should not buy a 802.11g router.
 

atomicWAR

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not missing the point i see exactly what you are saying...he asked what the speed ROUTER he needed to not bottle kneck his connection....while he other equipement may or may not have wireless n....he asked about the router he should get.

yes if he runs a wireless g device on a wireless n router said device peaks at g speeds....but his wireless n devices will get wireless n speeds.
 

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Since you are now the expert show me what the IEEE standard for 802.11n says the router should do if it detects 802.11g signals.....will his 802.11n devices be able to use 150m or not......

This is why the industry recommendation is to run different wireless devices one for 802.11g and a different one for 802.11n.
 

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I guess I will just give up. Go read the actual IEEE standard or at least a paper written that is reviewed by some standards boards. The thing you post is not even on the 802.11n standard it discusses draft n proposals. The compatibility mode you see discussed is talking about narrow channels. And yup the speed only drops from 72.2 max to 57 or so. There really is no such thing as compatibility mode when you are talking 40mhz channels.