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March 30, 2013 6:03:35 AM

Hi everyone!
I have a question, is posibble to use AMD Phenom X4 9850 2.5 GHz Quad-Core (HD9850XAJ4BGH) Processor, with ASRock 970 Extreme3 Motherboard SOCKET AM3+ AMD 970 ATX, or with any motherboard that support am3? also i want to know witch is the better DDR3 mobo for this CPU.

I know here exist lot of similar questions about Phenom X4 compatibility but in no one i got clear about in witch mobo I cant use my CPU, as i understood AM2, AM2+, AM3, and Am3+ are same socket but i don't know if i can use my CPU in am3 or am3+ mobo.

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March 30, 2013 6:11:03 AM

A Phenom X4 9850 only has a DDR2 memory controller, so it won't work with a DDR3 motherboard. The sockets aren't quite the same, but there's some cross compatibility, mostly backward compatibility for newer processors in old sockets, rather than older processors in new sockets.
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March 30, 2013 6:11:46 AM

ASRock didn't include AM2/+ backwards compatibility with that motherboard. Since it's not on their CPU Support List, I would say that it wont work on that motherboard.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/970%20Extreme3/?cat=CPU

Best RAM depends on which chip you are going to use. For a Phenom II I would stick with 1333MHz/1600MHz, with a AM3+ chip you could benefit slightly from 1866MHz. AMD chips typically benefit more from tighter timings than higher RAM speeds. Get a good quality CL8 1600MHz kit if you can.
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March 30, 2013 6:15:53 AM

ok, guys but what would be the best and newest mobo i can get for this CPU?
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March 30, 2013 6:25:40 AM

Well you'll have a hard time finding a new AM2+ motherboard. Best bet is finding one in the classifieds or on eBay.

I have one or two AM2+ boards around here somewhere I could possibly sell. PM if you're interested.

But more importantly, which parts do you already have and which parts do you need?
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March 30, 2013 6:43:23 AM

stickg1 said:
Well you'll have a hard time finding a new AM2+ motherboard. Best bet is finding one in the classifieds or on eBay.

I have one or two AM2+ boards around here somewhere I could possibly sell. PM if you're interested.

But more importantly, which parts do you already have and which parts do you need?


I have a AMD Phenom X4 9850 2.5, and everything for pc except MOBO that i would like to get the better choice possible even if i have to buy DDR3 memory, i would like to get this MOBO http://www.msi.com/product/mb/NF750-G55.html but i cant find it anywhere, I think i gonna have to buy a newest CPU :( 
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March 30, 2013 6:47:07 AM

stickg1 said:
ASRock didn't include AM2/+ backwards compatibility with that motherboard. Since it's not on their CPU Support List, I would say that it wont work on that motherboard.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/970%20Extreme3/?cat=CPU

Best RAM depends on which chip you are going to use. For a Phenom II I would stick with 1333MHz/1600MHz, with a AM3+ chip you could benefit slightly from 1866MHz. AMD chips typically benefit more from tighter timings than higher RAM speeds. Get a good quality CL8 1600MHz kit if you can.


I'm also interested in "backward compatibility", because that mean i would use newest MOBO but how can i know for witch one is this option available for the model i want?
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March 30, 2013 7:00:20 AM

bunbury911 said:
stickg1 said:
ASRock didn't include AM2/+ backwards compatibility with that motherboard. Since it's not on their CPU Support List, I would say that it wont work on that motherboard.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/970%20Extreme3/?cat=CPU

Best RAM depends on which chip you are going to use. For a Phenom II I would stick with 1333MHz/1600MHz, with a AM3+ chip you could benefit slightly from 1866MHz. AMD chips typically benefit more from tighter timings than higher RAM speeds. Get a good quality CL8 1600MHz kit if you can.


I'm also interested in "backward compatibility", because that mean i would use newest MOBO but how can i know for witch one is this option available for the model i want?


It doesn't work like that. You can use an AM3 chip in an AM2+ motherboard if you have the BIOS flashed for compatibility. You can't take an AM3 board and use an AM2 chip. AM2 and AM3 CPUs have a built in memory controller. The AM2 chips work with DDR2 memory, AM3 boards use DDR3 memory. You won't find a board that can do this. You can find a AM2+ board that will work with an AM3 chip though. A lot of the AM3 chips were built to handle DDR2 and DDR3, but AM2 chips were not built to run DDR3.
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March 30, 2013 7:07:29 AM

Well thanks all u guys, now i have to get a new CPU and new MOBO with just US$140 i hope i can get something cool arround, again thanks for ur time.
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