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New gaming PC for 1000-1200 Euros. Will buy Today or Tomorrow.

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March 31, 2013 5:28:04 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: 01.04. - 02.04.

Budget Range: About 1000 for a PC and little extra for mouse, keyboard and speakers

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, movies, music, internet

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: Yes Win 7

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: www.pixmania.ie www.dabs.ie www.komplett.ie

Location: City, State/Region, Country: Ireland

Overclocking: Never done before so Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Yes in the future

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: GPU should be GTX 670 and CPU i5 3570k
And also... it would be great if everything comes from one store so I don't have to pay extra delivery charges.
March 31, 2013 11:53:07 AM

Would something like this work?

Intel Core i5-3570K S1155 3.4GHz 6MB
Asus P8Z77-V LX S1155 Intel Z77 DDR3 ATX
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo - 4 Heatpipe, Tower CPU Cooler
Patriot Memory 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1866MHz Viper 3 Black Mamba DIMM CL9
Seagate 2TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 64MB 7200RPM Hard Drive
Crucial 128GB m4 SATA 6Gb/s 2.5" Solid State Drive
Corsair Carbide Series 400R Mid-Tower Gaming Chassis, Black
Corsair 600W Builder Series CX Series CX 80+ Bronze ATX Power Supply
LiteOn IHAS124-04 24x SATA DVDRW HH Internal Drive - Black
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional w/SP1 64-bit

All these are from www.dabs.ie and costs 920 Euros


Would 600W be enough when I decide to go SLI?
All feedback is welcome.
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April 1, 2013 3:47:37 AM

reality615 said:
Would something like this work?

Intel Core i5-3570K S1155 3.4GHz 6MB
Asus P8Z77-V LX S1155 Intel Z77 DDR3 ATX
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo - 4 Heatpipe, Tower CPU Cooler
Patriot Memory 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1866MHz Viper 3 Black Mamba DIMM CL9
Seagate 2TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 64MB 7200RPM Hard Drive
Crucial 128GB m4 SATA 6Gb/s 2.5" Solid State Drive
Corsair Carbide Series 400R Mid-Tower Gaming Chassis, Black
Corsair 600W Builder Series CX Series CX 80+ Bronze ATX Power Supply
LiteOn IHAS124-04 24x SATA DVDRW HH Internal Drive - Black
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional w/SP1 64-bit

All these are from www.dabs.ie and costs 920 Euros


Would 600W be enough when I decide to go SLI?
All feedback is welcome.


No, SLI will require at least 850w or higher
but i have a question, where is your GPU mate ??
the build doen't have one
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April 1, 2013 4:06:55 AM

@yasserBasha Your build is kinda strange. You don't need a 3770K for gaming (the OP even mentions he wants a 3570K), 16gb of RAM is just too much and overpriced, and your build is about 400 over budget (probably more once you convert it to Euros).

@reality615 your build is good but you do need a graphics card for gaming. Something like a 7870 XT would suit you well (though you'd need to shift around some of your budget), and can easily be CrossFired on a 750W power supply.

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April 1, 2013 4:50:37 AM

marshallbradley said:
@yasserBasha Your build is kinda strange. You don't need a 3770K for gaming (the OP even mentions he wants a 3570K), 16gb of RAM is just too much and overpriced, and your build is about 400 over budget (probably more once you convert it to Euros).

@reality615 your build is good but you do need a graphics card for gaming. Something like a 7870 XT would suit you well (though you'd need to shift around some of your budget), and can easily be CrossFired on a 750W power supply.

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Marshall ... my friend whom I argued with before about gtx570 vs gtx660 welcome back pal
i wish that you could just FOCUS FOCUS little bit ... my build in pcpartpicker has CORE i5 3570K and i swear about it
plus the price is - as GOD as my witness - with EURO which is 985 shipping included
AS for 16gb of ram i'm sure you know that recent games started to require 8gb for optimal play ( see FAR CRY 3 & CRYSiS 3 for example ) so thinking about future proofing your build at least 4 years ahead 16gb of ram is enough to make you focus on upgrading other parts (CPU .. VGA etc ..) when you plan to
hope to see you again my friend
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April 1, 2013 7:40:45 AM

yasserBasha said:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

this should help you, mate :) 

best wishes


For some reason I can't see the list you put together, can you copy it or something?

Would this be good?

Intel Core i5-3570K S1155 3.4GHz 6MB €219.24
Asus P8Z77-V LX S1155 Intel Z77 DDR3 ATX €99.54
EVGA GeForce GTX 670 1006MHz 2GB PCI-Express HDMI FTW €396.81
Seagate 2TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 64MB 7200RPM Hard Drive €84.23
Crucial 128GB m4 SATA 6Gb/s 2.5" Solid State Drive €105.95
Corsair Carbide Series 400R Mid-Tower Gaming Chassis, Black €106.86
Corsair 750W Enthusiast Series TX750 Modular Power Supply €110.06

I need help picking the Memory and CPU cooler, should be IN STOCK ( www.dabs.ie ) Is that SSD any good or can I get something better for that money?
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April 1, 2013 7:54:10 AM

reality615 said:
yasserBasha said:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

this should help you, mate :) 

best wishes


For some reason I can't see the list you put together, can you copy it or something?



CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor £166.79 FREE £166.79 Amazon UK
CPU Cooler

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler £24.99 FREE £24.99 Amazon UK
Motherboard

Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard £163.99 £1.99 £165.98 Dabs
Memory

Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory £99.98 FREE £99.98 Novatech
Add Additional Memory
Storage
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £67.60 £67.60 Amazon UK
Video Card

MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card £289.98 £289.98 Scan.co.uk
Case

Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case £65.99 £65.99 Aria PC
power supply Corsair Builder 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply £64.62

Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) £104.35 £104.35 CCL

total : £1050.28 shipping included ( the price raised because psu i put became out of stock so i had to replace it )
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April 1, 2013 9:49:13 AM

@yasserBasha Ahh OK this was my mistake. You confused me because you haven't actually properly linked your build above. You need to go to the "perma-link" field (it's in the top left corner I think), otherwise it will just show the last build that whoever opens the link was looking at, not the one you created. It seemed to me as though the build you were linking was just some random one that I had opened earlier that day.

Please don't harbor hate or whatever from other threads. The point is to have a discussion and back our suggestions up with proper facts, just because I disagreed with you in another thread shouldn't cause any unfriendliness (I hope!). I wasn't trying to insult you or anything, and it was my mistake for thinking it was your build that I was looking at for which I apologise (do please try and link stuff properly though in the future).

Your actual build is good (and so is reality615's). It would be a bit more expensive in Euros though (I see that this is due to the PSU going out of stock though).

@reality615 Your SSD is fine and very reliable. A good pick, I don't think it needs to be changed. Same for the rest of your build really.

This is the best priced, decent memory I could find on that website: http://www.dabs.ie/products/patriot-memory-8gb--2-x-4gb...

This is the best air cooler out there (though it is a tad pricey, you get what you pay for!): http://www.dabs.ie/products/noctua-dual-radiator-and-fa...

Both were 'In Stock' when I checked. If you want a slightly cheaper CPU cooler, a Hyper 212 would be a solid choice.

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April 1, 2013 10:07:31 AM

Here's what I would suggest:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus - €79.95
PSU: Corsair TX650M - €99.95
Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 - €129.95
CPU: 3.4GHz Intel Core i5-3570K - €224.95
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - €34.95
RAM: Corsair 8GB Vengeance 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600MHz 1.5V - €59.95
SSD: 120GB Samsung 840 - €94.95
HD: 1TB Seagate Barrauda - €72.95
Optical: Asus DVD Burner - €27.95
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT - €224.95

Total €1,050.50

I couldn't find a Windows OEM listing on this website - try Amazon for that.
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April 1, 2013 11:30:51 AM

marshallbradley said:
@yasserBasha Ahh OK this was my mistake. You confused me because you haven't actually properly linked your build above. You need to go to the "perma-link" field (it's in the top left corner I think), otherwise it will just show the last build that whoever opens the link was looking at, not the one you created. It seemed to me as though the build you were linking was just some random one that I had opened earlier that day.

Please don't harbor hate or whatever from other threads. The point is to have a discussion and back our suggestions up with proper facts, just because I disagreed with you in another thread shouldn't cause any unfriendliness (I hope!). I wasn't trying to insult you or anything, and it was my mistake for thinking it was your build that I was looking at for which I apologise (do please try and link stuff properly though in the future).

Your actual build is good (and so is reality615's). It would be a bit more expensive in Euros though (I see that this is due to the PSU going out of stock though).

@reality615 Your SSD is fine and very reliable. A good pick, I don't think it needs to be changed. Same for the rest of your build really.

This is the best priced, decent memory I could find on that website: http://www.dabs.ie/products/patriot-memory-8gb--2-x-4gb...

This is the best air cooler out there (though it is a tad pricey, you get what you pay for!): http://www.dabs.ie/products/noctua-dual-radiator-and-fa...

Both were 'In Stock' when I checked. If you want a slightly cheaper CPU cooler, a Hyper 212 would be a solid choice.

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Marshall my friend ... there is absolutely no hate or unfriendliness whatsoever, like you said the goal is to have a productive discussion and i'll try to post links properly in the future, hope to see you in other threads my friend
great posting by the way
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April 1, 2013 12:33:51 PM

OK cool, was just making sure :) 

All the best with the build reality615,

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April 1, 2013 12:37:32 PM

Changed the SSD and GPU
Any further thoughts? Otherwise I will go with that.


Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus - €79.95
PSU: Corsair TX650M - €99.95
Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 - €129.95
CPU: 3.4GHz Intel Core i5-3570K - €224.95
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - €34.95
RAM: Corsair 8GB Vengeance 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600MHz 1.5V - €59.95
SSD: Crucial M4 SSD 128GB 2.5" - €114.95
HD: 1TB Seagate Barrauda - €72.95
Optical: Asus DVD Burner - €27.95
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 - €367.00

Total €1,212.55

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April 1, 2013 1:04:29 PM

Looks great to me, no qualms here.

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April 1, 2013 1:10:16 PM

Thank you for your time.
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April 1, 2013 2:32:39 PM

reality615 said:
Changed the SSD and GPU
Any further thoughts? Otherwise I will go with that.


Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus - €79.95
PSU: Corsair TX650M - €99.95
Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 - €129.95
CPU: 3.4GHz Intel Core i5-3570K - €224.95
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - €34.95
RAM: Corsair 8GB Vengeance 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600MHz 1.5V - €59.95
SSD: Crucial M4 SSD 128GB 2.5" - €114.95
HD: 1TB Seagate Barrauda - €72.95
Optical: Asus DVD Burner - €27.95
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 - €367.00

Total €1,212.55



I'd suggest getting the Vertex 4 instead of the M4, and the Gigabyte Windforce over the EVGA but otherwise that looks really good, I say go for it.
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April 9, 2013 9:40:01 AM

I got my delivery and for some reason they sent me a single memory module.
Since sending it back and waiting for another one to arrive will take weeks then I would like to get a same module but not sure where to get one because the site where I ordered it from don't have it in they'r list and haven't found it any of those sites: www.dabs.ie www.pixmania.ie
I'm guessing it would be easiest to order it from UK but I don't know any decent retailers so I'm open to suggestions.

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP - 8GB 1600MHz PC3-12800 DDR3 - 240 pin - 1,5 V - CL9
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April 9, 2013 4:25:20 PM

Amazon are your best bet (assuming it's Black): http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Vengeance-Performance-M...

You could also just order a dual module kit from then, and return the original when it arrives. As long as it's within 7 days they legally have to accept it as a return, though you'll want to make sure on their website.

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April 10, 2013 9:52:50 AM

Thanks, that's the one :) 
And also... How much do I actually gain by running dual channel memory?
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April 10, 2013 10:12:49 AM

Honestly not much. Maybe 5% in most games, 10-15% at the very most in some extreme cases (PlanetSide 2 is a great example). It's not going to kill your frame rate. It's mostly just recommended because it's better and really the same price as getting a single module. Here's an article which reviews this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/memory-bandwidth-la...

I personally wouldn't stand for them sending me not what I ordered though. I'd just order another set, and demand a refund on the original when the new set arrives. It depends what you prioritise though, keeping your computer running or getting what you paid for.

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April 11, 2013 9:58:54 AM

Okay, Thank You all who found time to reply here.
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