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March 31, 2013 1:01:44 PM

My current dated system is a i3-3.2ghz, 4gb 1600mhz ddr 3ram , radeon hd 4670 , 500gb hdd with a single 24 inch monitor i use at 1920x1080

i keep a computer and do not upgrade for about 3-4 years


i use this system for gaming fps/mmo and League/Dota
heavy heavy photoshop/editing work ( that's how i make my money).

i am gonna be building a new rig i will not be overclocking just as an fyi

i love the intel line but cant decide on a couple things
i can save just a little money and go this setup:

amd fx 3850 liquid cooled
Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 - motherboard
radeon 7870 or 7970
8gb (4gbx2)1600 mhz ddr3 ram [ but was told the fx3850 does not work well with 1600mhz ram so i should go with a higher frequency]
2tb hdd - need a crap ton of space
850w corsair psu- have alot of peripherals needing power
24 inch monitor i use at 1920x1080

or i can stay with what i know intel:

i7-3770k or i7-3820 liquid cooled
mother board- P9X79 LE for the 3820 or the Fatal1ty Z77 for the 3770k
radeon 7870 or 7970
8gb (4gbx2) 1600mhz ddr3 ram
2tb hdd - need a crap ton of space
850w corsair psu - have alot of peripherals needing power
24 inch monitor i use at 1920x1080

again i will not be overclocking and i keep a system for about 3-4years
will use it for fps/mmo/mobas and heavy heavy photoshop/editing.

any help will be appreciated

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March 31, 2013 3:00:14 PM

I'd recommend going for Intel LGA 1155, given the usage. Why a K series if you won't overclock though? Simply go for a 3770 and a H77 motherboard. Also really no need for the liquid cooler. That would easily save you enough money to put the build more on par with the price of the AMD one.

How many peripherals do you have? In order to use up the ~300W extra power you have there you'd need 120 or so USB devices. If you want to keep it for 3-4 years, probably best going with the 7970, or at least a 7950.

Why no SSD? It makes an AMAZING difference, esp. given the fact that you're doing heavy PhotoShop on it, and playing MMOs (which tend to have slow loading times). You definitely seem to have the budget for one.

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March 31, 2013 4:55:10 PM

Just trying trying to make sure my pc underload and all my externals have power. I have lots of different Usb goodies that rotate out daily depending on what i'm doing but mostly what always stays plugged in is a couple different kinds of USB power charging attachments, blue ray burner, storage drives, usb mic and a camera, turntable. - extra 300w would probably be overkill

the liquid cooling is only like 60 bucks from newegg and its in both my builds so im ok with that.
I can get my hands on a 3770k for the same price as a 3770 thanks to my friend at a mom and pop shop
just cant decide if i should... or just go with the amd or the i7-3820.
I will have to look into the SSD and the overall advantage per cost it would bring.

thanks for the info guys.
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March 31, 2013 6:24:23 PM

Here's how these threads work:
You ask us questions and we give you answers based on what we THINK you need. Then you correct us and tell us you don't need that and give us a little more info... So we try again and the same thing happens, over and over.
OR
You give us all the info we need up front so that we can help you make good decisions. The first method chews up a lot of time, days usually. The second method gets you a lot of replies quickly and makes everyone happy.

So, I will ask the questions more directly.

1. Where do you live? What country? You said "newegg" at one point so that probably means the US or Canada.

2. Do you have a preference for shopping? What website?

3. What is your budget?

4. What things are important to you? Quiet? Style? Performance?

5. What other professional programs are you using besides PS?

6. What advantages are you looking for with a closed loop liquid cooler? How do you see this as helping you?

7. Do you know what CUDA is?

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March 31, 2013 8:34:59 PM

Proximon said:
Here's how these threads work:
You ask us questions and we give you answers based on what we THINK you need. Then you correct us and tell us you don't need that and give us a little more info... So we try again and the same thing happens, over and over.
OR
You give us all the info we need up front so that we can help you make good decisions. The first method chews up a lot of time, days usually. The second method gets you a lot of replies quickly and makes everyone happy.

So, I will ask the questions more directly.

1. Where do you live? What country? You said "newegg" at one point so that probably means the US or Canada.

2. Do you have a preference for shopping? What website?

3. What is your budget?

4. What things are important to you? Quiet? Style? Performance?

5. What other professional programs are you using besides PS?

6. What advantages are you looking for with a closed loop liquid cooler? How do you see this as helping you?

7. Do you know what CUDA is?



1. US
2. Whatever has the best price/user rating on good delivery
3. 1500 max
4. Quiet/Performance
5. I use alot of the tools that come in the adobe creative cloud / i also use Audio and Mastering Software
6. Iv been told time-under pc load that it will keep the quietest.
7. Yes


thanks for these fast replies, i will follow up more tomorrow.
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March 31, 2013 8:41:57 PM

You're wrong about pre-filled loops being quiet. Perhaps they meant a custom water loop (as these are indeed dead silent). Noctua's coolers (such as the NH-D14) always beat the pre-filled solutions on the quietness front though (look at the last graph, and remember a difference of 7 dB is pretty big because it's a logarithmic scale): http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/h100i-elc240-seidon...

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March 31, 2013 10:23:46 PM

Your optimal CPU choice is dependent on the specific programs you are running. Some programs utilize multiple cores better than other programs.

You make a living with these professional programs, so understanding how they interact with your hardware is important. In some cases people doing work like yours benefit significantly by using say, an i7 3930K.

Other times CUDA can be the greatest source of performance boost.

You probably will benefit from CUDA, to some degree. How much I can't say because it would require more detail of your usage than you want to get into. However, you want to game as well, so that pretty much settles matters. Also your budget does not really fit an LGA 2011 system. You need to look at Nvidia GPUs, probably a GTX 660ti or 670

You can achieve a very quiet system with a Corsair H100 + 4 low speed fans in a push/pull config. This adds expense though, that is not warranted.

Do you intend to re-use your case?

Here are a few parts suggestions

  • MSI N660Ti PE 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
  • NVIDIA $150 value in-game coin coupon
  • SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
  • SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
  • CORSAIR Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M2A1600C10
  • ASUS P8H77-V LE LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    TOTAL: $878.95
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    April 1, 2013 11:01:59 AM

    @proximon- yes i will be reusing my case its an older thermaltake atx full tower case.
    I'm going to stick with my amd cards its what i know/favor but thanks for the input on those 2 nvidia cards.

    I was talking to my friend who uses the ssd/hd setup for his work, using PS with a ssd really doesn't improve performance enless your using it as a scratch disk... yeah start up loading times are faster but even with my current setup PS still loads fast enough for me so it doesn't warrant me using an SSD i can spend the extra 200+ somewhere else or decide if i want the luxury of the SSD for my scratch disk.

    16gb sounds good to me will change from 8gb to 16gb

    @marshallbradley- will look into that thank for the info.



    thanks for the help, you guys gave me alot to think about.
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