Need Advice: Haven't built a new system for 10+ years

uclatommy

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It's been more than 10 years since I've built a system. There's all this new tech I'm not familiar with. I plan on developing for the Oculus Rift and have a developer kit coming in the mail so I need a gaming rig. Can I get some feedback on my planned build?

Here's my component list:
Case: BitFenix Prodigy Midnight Black ($89.99 @ newegg)
Case Fans: (2 Qty) Noctua NF-S12B ($22.79 ea. @ amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z77IA-E53 ($149.99 @ newegg)
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4 GHz ($219.99 @ newegg)
CPU Cooling: Corsair Hydro H50 ($59.99 @ newegg)
Radiator Fans (Push/Pull config): (2 Qty) Noctua NF-P12 ($17.99 ea. @ amazon)
Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB ($119.99 @ newegg)
PSU: Rosewill Fortress 550W ($99.99 @ newegg)
HD: Crucial m4 256GB 2.5" SSD ($187.86 @ amazon)
OS: Windows 8 System Builder OEM 64-Bit ($95.88 @ amazon)
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660Ti 2GB OC ($299.99 @ newegg)

Questions/Concerns:

    ■ The psu might be a tight fit. Anyone know if this is going to fit this case?
    ■ This build seems a bit expensive. Am I spending too much for the amount of performance I'm getting?
    ■ Any additional advice?


Thanks!
 
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I don't know if you are the developer or the tester, but here's a tester's build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)...

robthatguyx

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I would use a hyper 212 evo,unless you want to upgrade to an h80i or h100i for cooling.Also 16gb is massive overkill in a gaming rig. 8 is more than sufficient.Your going to want to go with something like a 450-500w seasonic or corsair powersupply.
 

SHORYUKEN

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I don't know if you are the developer or the tester, but here's a tester's build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.81 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1146.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-31 22:33 EDT-0400)

Here's one for development:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($117.06 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($195.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.81 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1081.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-31 22:36 EDT-0400)
 
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kylerg

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As robthatguyx stated, 16GB is pretty overkill for a gaming rig. But you said that you'd be developing for Oculus Rift so the 16GB may be the right way if you'll be rendering/compiling things (I don't know the terminology) on the computer as well. If not then I would recommend getting 8GB of RAM.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231460

Also I would recommend a Modular PSU considering you're working with a smaller case and some cables may not be used.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119
 

uclatommy

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Thanks for the feedback so far. I'll be developing but at a hobbyist level. I'll be using UDK to basically build and explore models and maybe setup some custom physics with UDK scripting. My day job is not a game developer, although it does involve programming in C++.

It sounds like the hyper 212 evo is a more efficient cooling solution than the H50. But I do have a concern about fan noise, which is why I'm planning to replace fans with noctuas. Do you guys know how the 2 noctua setup in push/pull config on the H50 would compare to the hyper 212 evo?
 

marshallbradley

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Why not just get a Noctua U9B SE2, and not have to spend money buying extra fans from the start. It's perfect for mITX builds like the Bitfenix Prodigy (I assume you want to stay with this form factor). It performs the same as if not better than the H50 as well, IIRC.

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uclatommy

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Hmm.. good point.

 

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I would not bother with closed liquid loops honestly. They're cheap plastic toys compared to what a real liquid cooler will do.

Why not just get a Noctua U9B SE2, and not have to spend money buying extra fans from the start. It's perfect for mITX builds like the Bitfenix Prodigy (I assume you want to stay with this form factor). It performs the same as if not better than the H50 as well, IIRC.

A standup cooler for an mITX build? I don't think there would be any room left in the case. Maybe a top down cooler like the Noctua NH-L12 would be a better option.
 

marshallbradley

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No trust me, with Bitfenix Prodigy the U9B is an amazing cooler. It's make the airflow nearly perfect in the case. You have air coming in through the front 200mm, then a push-pull on the U9B which exhausts it out the back. If you have a blower type graphics card as well and the PSU the right way around, all your components are on separate 'air supplies' so to speak (the graphics can bring in air from the mesh on the side-panel of the Prodigy. My friend has this exact setup on his LAN machine.

Here's a random picture I found online showing how you can orientate the U9B inside the Prodigy (you have to imagine it with the fans installed though):

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If he went for another case though, he might have space issues though it's true.

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g-unit1111

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Interesting, I would have thought there would be clearance issues. The Prodigy is a different league of case - I guess I'm not used to it. I'd personally go for the Fractal Design Node 304 if I was doing such a build.