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March 31, 2013 8:18:40 PM

This system will be used for gaming whilst video recording so needs the highest frame rates. Which one is better for this?
cheers.

system one: costs £529

Processor
3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i5-3350P processor (6M Cache, up to 3.3 GHz)
Operating System
Windows 8 64bit, English
Memory
8GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
Hard Drive
1TB Serial ATA (7,200 rpm)
Video Card
AMD Radeon™ HD 7570 1GB DDR5 Graphics Card
Optical Drive
16x DVD +/- RW Drive (read/write CD & DVD)
Wireless
Dell Wireless 1703 802.11b/g/n, Bluetooth v4.0+LE



system two: costs £699

Processor
Intel® Core™ i5-3330 (6M Cache, up to 3.2GHz)
Operating System
Windows 8 64bit, English
Memory
6GB Dual Channel at 1600MHz
Hard Drive
1TB Serial ATA (7,200 rpm)
Video Card
1GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 640
Optical Drive
DVD+/-RW (Read/Write)
Wireless
Integrated 802.11 a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Wireless LAN

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a c 409 4 Gaming
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March 31, 2013 8:21:49 PM

Both of the GPUs are pretty weak. At 1080p don't expect to be past low settings with playable FPS in new games.
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March 31, 2013 8:31:41 PM

tiny voices said:
Both of the GPUs are pretty weak. At 1080p don't expect to be past low settings with playable FPS in new games.

trying not to break the £700 mark but i could stretch if this is better ?
costs £749
Processor
3rd gen Intel® Core™ i7-3770 Processor (3.40GHz, 8MB)
Operating System
Windows 8 64bit, English
Memory
12GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
Hard Drive
2TB (7,200rpm) SATA Hard Drive + 32GB mSATA SSD (Intel SRT)
Video Card
AMD Radeon™ HD 7770 2GB DDR5 Graphics Card
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a c 409 4 Gaming
a c 123 U Graphics card
March 31, 2013 8:33:42 PM

This will play new games at medium settings tops. The GPU is still not the best. Its better by a lot compared to the other two, but it will only really get you medium settings in new games at best.
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March 31, 2013 8:35:41 PM

I dont know my conversions. Yes, americans are lazy. But for under 700 american you can get a gtx 660 build. Gtx 600 blows the radeon 7770 out of the water. Though for the price the radeon 7770 is great.
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March 31, 2013 8:38:02 PM

What id do though, is instead of 3770 processor, grab the 3570 (make sure you get 3570k if youre gonna oc) then take the hundred bucks you just shaved off and throw it on a "good" radeon 7870 or gtx 660.
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a c 409 4 Gaming
a c 123 U Graphics card
March 31, 2013 8:39:10 PM

tidwellt said:
What id do though, is instead of 3770 processor, grab the 3570 (make sure you get 3570k if youre gonna oc) then take the hundred bucks you just shaved off and throw it on a "good" radeon 7870 or gtx 660.


He is selecting between prebuilts.
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March 31, 2013 8:40:24 PM

And also get dual channel 8gb ram instead of 12. Save a few bucks there too.
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March 31, 2013 8:42:12 PM

Oooooih prebuilt. Go to a site like ibuypower then. Can get a decent "custom" build put together for like 800-850 american. Again, sorry i dont know my conversions.
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March 31, 2013 8:49:10 PM

You should really order the parts and put it together yourself though. Otherwise anything decent is gonna be too expensive. Its not hard, watch a couple videos.
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a c 278 4 Gaming
a b U Graphics card
March 31, 2013 9:09:10 PM

ambertr7rt5 said:
tiny voices said:
Both of the GPUs are pretty weak. At 1080p don't expect to be past low settings with playable FPS in new games.

trying not to break the £700 mark but i could stretch if this is better ?
costs £749
Processor
3rd gen Intel® Core™ i7-3770 Processor (3.40GHz, 8MB)
Operating System
Windows 8 64bit, English
Memory
12GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
Hard Drive
2TB (7,200rpm) SATA Hard Drive + 32GB mSATA SSD (Intel SRT)
Video Card
AMD Radeon™ HD 7770 2GB DDR5 Graphics Card


First off that RAM is triple channel X58 RAM and won't work on a dual channel system.

Second you don't need an i7. Spend less on the CPU and more on the GPU. Try something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£139.41 @ Dabs)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£68.33 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£45.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£55.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card (£212.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.84 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£75.96 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.13 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £654.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-01 05:08 BST+0100)

That gives you an extra £100 to play with if you need an OS license, monitor, or want to upgrade your CPU or GPU.

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Otherwise this is the best prebuilt i can find for the price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


You can build your own for less than that and get a better system.
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March 31, 2013 9:36:05 PM

tiny voices said:
This will play new games at medium settings tops. The GPU is still not the best. Its better by a lot compared to the other two, but it will only really get you medium settings in new games at best.


g-unit1111 said:
ambertr7rt5 said:
tiny voices said:
Both of the GPUs are pretty weak. At 1080p don't expect to be past low settings with playable FPS in new games.

trying not to break the £700 mark but i could stretch if this is better ?
costs £749
Processor
3rd gen Intel® Core™ i7-3770 Processor (3.40GHz, 8MB)
Operating System
Windows 8 64bit, English
Memory
12GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
Hard Drive
2TB (7,200rpm) SATA Hard Drive + 32GB mSATA SSD (Intel SRT)
Video Card
AMD Radeon™ HD 7770 2GB DDR5 Graphics Card


First off that RAM is triple channel X58 RAM and won't work on a dual channel system.

Second you don't need an i7. Spend less on the CPU and more on the GPU. Try something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£139.41 @ Dabs)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£68.33 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£45.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£55.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card (£212.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£45.84 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£75.96 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.13 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £654.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-01 05:08 BST+0100)

That gives you an extra £100 to play with if you need an OS license, monitor, or want to upgrade your CPU or GPU.

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Otherwise this is the best prebuilt i can find for the price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


You can build your own for less than that and get a better system.


it seems to me that i ll be doing my first build then, would you definitely suggest that this list is what suits my needs the best to my budget? and i ll definitely need an operating system license
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March 31, 2013 10:06:54 PM

Building your own is always best. If you cant shove an oem OS into your budget, maybe downgrade to a radeon 7859 but thats really as weak a card as i would get in your position.
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a c 278 4 Gaming
a b U Graphics card
March 31, 2013 10:10:01 PM

ambertr7rt5 said:

it seems to me that i ll be doing my first build then, would you definitely suggest that this list is what suits my needs the best to my budget? and i ll definitely need an operating system license


I generally pick the best components you can get for the price. That will be a really solid system.
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March 31, 2013 10:22:04 PM

g-unit1111 said:
ambertr7rt5 said:

it seems to me that i ll be doing my first build then, would you definitely suggest that this list is what suits my needs the best to my budget? and i ll definitely need an operating system license


I generally pick the best components you can get for the price. That will be a really solid system.


brilliant, cheers :) 
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March 31, 2013 10:24:13 PM

tidwellt said:
Building your own is always best. If you cant shove an oem OS into your budget, maybe downgrade to a radeon 7859 but thats really as weak a card as i would get in your position.


just seen that i can get a 7 home premium for 75% off with my uni student discount so it should be okay :) 
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March 31, 2013 10:44:45 PM

ambertr7rt5 said:
tidwellt said:
Building your own is always best. If you cant shove an oem OS into your budget, maybe downgrade to a radeon 7859 but thats really as weak a card as i would get in your position.


just seen that i can get a 7 home premium for 75% off with my uni student discount so it should be okay :) 


Awesome (: on youtube, newegg tv and ncix / linustechtips have good videos on how to build a pc. Good luck!
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