Mobo has trouble with amount of RAM

quixoticduck

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Hello :) I'm hoping the lovely people of this forum can help me again. I've learnt so much in the past weeks, part of it from here.

I've installed a new SSD, HDD, RAM, graphics card and OS so I am happy with my computer, I will say that first before anybody tells me to give up on my ageing machine. It is working perfectly and much better than before (even if it is very old/rubbish compared to most people's. I almost like how I had a slight challenge to get my old machine running ship-shape when some people were telling me to move on). :)

Anyhoo, I have one last problem. I installed some RAM and began to get freezes (which were un-un-freezable) and BSODs. I thought it was that stick of RAM despite it seeming ok in the PC I removed it from. When I remove the RAM the computer works fine, but just to be sure I tried putting it back in and removing the matching stick of RAM. Again the computer worked fine. It seems the RAM slot/RAM stick is not the problem but there is something about having 4GB of RAM which is the problem.

My options are
a) fix this problem
b) don't fix this problem. Is it best to have 2GB dual channel RAM, 3.5GB single channel RAM or 3GB single channel RAM? (I assume not the last one).

I am running 64-bit Windows 7 which I have just switched to (annoyingly, if I can't get 4GB RAM). My mobo is an old ASUS A8N-SLI. :) The RAM sticks are two Corsair 1GB PC3200 and two Micron 1GB PC3200.

When I do have 4GB installed it works fine for a little while. I had to turn off memory remapping in the BIOS and then turn it on again to get it to notice my memory (before that it said 4GB installed by 3GB usable). I cannot remember if I got any crashes before enabling memory remapping. Possibly there might be option c) which is to have 4GB installed without memory remapping, perhaps it would run 3GB usable memory as dual channel, I could check (though possibly it would still have crashes and may be no help).

Thank you for any help. :) Its' been a fun month but I'll be happy when my computer is 'done' and I can put the room back to normal instead of it being a computer workshop in here!

I have done some research (but still would appreciate advice) and
these say it's something to do with the BIOS:
http://www.sevenforums.com/bsod-help-support/215127-4gb-memory-2-75-gb-usable-memory-remapping-bios-causes-bsod.html
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/237858-44-working-properly-vista
and these say something complicated (which I don't understand) about the RAM settings:
http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=108982
http://forums.hexus.net/pc-hardware/70793-anyone-have-4gb-asus-a8n-sli-premium.html

and this thread seems to have a ton of confusing/conflicting info: http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php/t-284263.html

Somebody says this:
"I've been trying to make sense of this issue as well. It seems that the ASUS A8N-SLI Premium still has some sort of issue though with running 4GB (or sticks) of RAM, despite the processor revisions. I'm running 4gb no problem at 400.

Easy way to do this, put in 2 sticks, boot, go into bios and write down the memory settings it shows.
Shut down, install additional memory and boot again.
go into bios and just manually set the ram.
All done. You will now show memory running at full speed."

So…

I do not know about flashing the BIOS (I hear it is serious) or changing RAM settings, though I do know some BIOS stuff.

I realise this thread is very long but I thought I may as well include the research I'd done if I'm asking for help, plus there's always the chance someone else will need help and find the info all grouped together. Thanks. :)
 

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try setting your bios to default and work from there if that don't work try setting bios to default and do a clean install ya I know why but if you want it to work proper give it a chance to do so before hunting for the real problem this is to isolate any after a already installed system my guess!
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quixoticduck

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Well I hadn't changed anything much in the BIOS before I did the clean install (unless the person before me did) and I don't think I can do another clean install of the OS if that's what you mean.

One of the links said something about leaving only two sticks in and checking what the BIOS is saying about the RAM, then put the other two back in and set the BIOS to what the RAM said with the two sticks in. But idk if I have that correct... :S
 

quixoticduck

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Does anybody know more about this?

"With that MB when you fill all four Slots you may have to run the memory at DDR333 and I would set the memory Voltage to 2.75 Volts at Cas 2.5-3-3-7 and make sure that Command Rate is at 2T as well. But officially we do not suggest or support mixing memory like this."

Or this:

""Originally Posted by arthurleung
Try set memory to 2T. If that doesn't work, try reduce speed to DDR333, 3-4-4-8, to see if its memory problem.


I had problems getting 4 sticks to work with my A8N-SLI Deluxe&Premium. (4x512, had to use DDR266-3-4-4-8 to be stable, where the stick ran rock stable DDR470-2.5-4-3-7 on DFI)

I was also running Corsair Valueselect 4x1GB (not anymore) on my DFI NF4 SLI-D at DDR500-3-4-4-8-2T."

Aha, you star!
As it wasn't even getting to the POST I figured the board (or a slot) might be screwed, but I set the memory timings back to Auto, inserted the modules and now it's up with 4GB

Seems to auto-detect the RAM at DDR400 if there are 2 modules in dual channel, but DDR333 if all 4 slots are in use... I had the memory settings tuned manually to the ratings on the modules (DDR400 2-3-3-6 1T) which works perfectly for 2x1GB.

Cheers, from one very happy Paul ""

Thanks.