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I can't get a 16x pci graphics card to fit into the 16x slot in my dell 470

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April 1, 2013 8:56:18 AM

It's a puzzle as both the specs on the dell 470/670
ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_desktop/...
say that the slot is 16x and the specs on the Sapphire X1650 card
http://www.cnet.com/graphics-cards/sapphire-radeon-x165...
say that they are both 16x, but the card is just a little too long and I can't get it into the slot. It's like the card is a little too long. Anyone have any ideas?

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a b U Graphics card
April 1, 2013 9:04:33 AM

sorry to tell you this but the 16x slot is just the bus speed for the card and the 16x is not a size indicator for what will fit there are so many cards out there and not all of them are the same size but all will work on a 16x slot so its not a size indicator. in order to use that card you will have to do one of two things modify your case so that it will fit .. or get a new case and just reinstall all the parts into the new case . or return the graphics card and get something based off of your own measurements that will fit.
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a b U Graphics card
April 1, 2013 9:06:17 AM

a lot of online vendors have product size descriptions along with the item they are selling. seeing as how that's a lower end card you may possibly want to look into a low profile card instead.
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a b U Graphics card
April 1, 2013 9:14:19 AM

You might be trying to get pci-e card into pci connector. 16x is just ''speed''. Try finding pci-e slot/pci card.
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April 1, 2013 9:21:17 AM

Thanks, it's actually an old card I had laying around, but I had the same problem with another card as well. I thought that the motherboard had been shoved out of position through heavy handling (I got the computer out of Harvards trash/recycle section) but the rest of it looked ok. I'll measure and check around to see if I can find a card that will fit.
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April 1, 2013 9:25:55 AM

That is a really old card, why would you want to stick it in your machine? You can get a really budget modern PCIe card that would be small enough to drop in that slot and be far better than that old x1650.
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April 1, 2013 9:29:43 AM

Flying-Q said:
That is a really old card, why would you want to stick it in your machine? You can get a really budget modern PCIe card that would be small enough to drop in that slot and be far better than that old x1650.


True, but like I said it was the first one handy and I've never had trouble fitting a card into a slot when they match up in the specifications. What card would you recommend? This is going to my brother and he's only going to use it for email, itunes, maybe a bit of youtube... no games or anything.
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April 1, 2013 9:31:25 AM

just to clarify:

is the card physically too long to fit in the case?

or

is the card's connector not fitting in the PCIe slot on the motherboard?
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April 1, 2013 10:23:02 AM

Flying-Q said:
just to clarify:

is the card physically too long to fit in the case?

or

is the card's connector not fitting in the PCIe slot on the motherboard?


It's not fitting into the PCIe slot. I press the face of the card against the opening as far as I can but the other end of the card where it fits into the slot sticks out just about a eighth of an inch past the slot itself.
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a c 154 U Graphics card
April 1, 2013 1:09:16 PM

It really does sound like you're trying to insert a PCI-Ex16 card into a PCI slot. Note the differences in this image:



If you look at Page 23 of the manual you linked, it shows the PCI-Ex16 slot as the most left expansion slot. This is the slot you should be trying to install the card into.

-Wolf sends
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a c 154 U Graphics card
April 1, 2013 1:48:06 PM

That's an AGP graphics card. Not PCI-E. In the image I linked above, that card would be installed in the third slot down. Your motherboard does not have an AGP slot and you cannot use that card.

-Wolf sends

Edit: Just for clarification, back at the time those cards were being produced, some manufacturers built both versions (PCI-E and AGP).

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April 1, 2013 1:52:37 PM

That would explain it, thanks a lot. Now that I know none of the cards I have will work I'll get a new one.

Thanks again.
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