Buying a new stable router for 100% uptime

vileguy

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I'm very experienced and skilled with computers, but finding quality hardware seems to be a problem for me. I've been getting headaches from the past 2 routers I've purchased, and I'm sick of it. A few years ago I was using an old Linksys router (the square blue/black one with 2 antennae) that worked great as far as I can remember and didn't give me any problems, but it eventually died outright. I replaced it with a new Linksys router (the thin black ones that sit at an angle), and this had major issues. After using the router for an extended period, the connection would drop and the router would be unresponsive to http access. I had to power cycle it before it would work again, and this only started the timer for when it locked up again.

My current router is a Netgear WNR3500 I believe (not at home atm). It works fine but has 2 major problems. 1st, the wireless network becomes unusable occasionally. Attempts to connect to it fail until I power cycle the router. 2nd, the connection drops anywhere from 1-3 times a day for about 15 seconds. I know it's the router's fault, as it doesn't occur when I connect directly to my modem, and windows shows that I am not attached to any device for the duration.

I'm now convinced that the current generation of wireless routers are just too faulty. I'm sure there's a chance I can get a good one, but I don't want to deal with sending back bad eggs repeatedly. My current plan is to find a fast and most importantly stable router without wireless. I need wireless in my house, so I plan on using my current router as an access point for whatever new router I get. I don't need a router with many LAN ports as I already have a switch waiting to be used. Can anyone please give me some solid advice as to which direction to go?

1. Which wired only router best fits my needs? I have a 20mbps internet connection and rarely work across my LAN, but I do need support for a lot of bandwidth up or down. I don't really care about QoS, but I do need basic port-forwarding capabilities. I am comfortable spending no more than $300.

2. Should I install custom firmware on current router? I'm not confident it will solve my problem.

3. Should I use a linux machine as a router? Seems unnecessary and more problematic.

4. Or should I just buy another wireless router and hope for the best. This is my last resort at this point.
 
I feel for you.. I am in similar situation..
My Linksys WRT54GL with tomato firmware was rock solid...
but I relegated that to an access point when my ISP gave me free upgrade to a Netgear CG3101D Wireless router
which seemed nice - as it had Gigabit for my LAN (which is Nice - I often pump around lots of data on my LAN)
The new router is def much more flakey.. like you I get some strange drops which I never saw on the old router.
Also - for some unexplained reason - my daughters Blackberry would crash the router when connected via wireless (just hers.. my wifes and other daughter blackberries were fine... luckly she dropped it down toilet so changed it!!!).
So sorry I don't have a recommendation.. but I will be tempted if someone gives you a good recommendation.

Cheers
 

McLeanIT

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I used to have the same issue. All of my routers would poop their pants after about 6 months. I think over two years I'd spent over $800 on routers.

Eventually got fed up and bought a Cisco 871W. Downloading and streaming habits actually increased probably tenfold since, and it has never gone down even once.

Configuring it is no joke - it literally took me three days to program the darn thing due to my lack of expertise with Cisco IOS command-line software. But if you want something that isn't unstable, go with something that isn't consumer-grade crap.

The 871W is a few years old now, but the 881W might work for you. It's roughly $900.

Another possibility would be to separate the routing and wireless functions. Buy a nice business-class wired router and add an access point as a separate device. I find it's trying to do both that usually contributes to the instability.

It may or may not be a possibility, but nothing beats a wired connection, especially for things like torrents. If traditional wired is not an option for those downloader computers, consider using a PowerLine Ethernet solution. It's like wired without the wires. It uses your home's electrical system to communicate. Trust me it's awesome. I keep wireless for my laptops and phones, but the desktops I try to keep wired as much as possible, some through PowerLine.
 

vileguy

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I'm on a wired connection, I just need wireless for the rest of my household. I would love to have a wired router with a separate wireless access point. Can you recommend a wired router? I don't want to spend $900 on a router, but maybe $300 or less is reasonable.

Also, I recently purchased a Netgear R6300 and haven't had any problems so far. The issue was definitely my previous router. Thus, I won't be replacing this new one until something goes wrong that the warranty won't fix.
 

McLeanIT

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The stability often depends greatly on the processor. It seems like the R6300 has a decent one. Consumer D-Link and Linksys ones tend to underpower their hardware for the tasks they're meant to perform. Netgear in my experience has a better track record.
 
When you only need wired router and stability and reliability are you key performance factors I would look at used commercial equipment. I would look for something like a old cisco 2811. Also thing like 1800 series would work fine also. The newer stuff like 1900 or 2900 series will cost you more because they are current routers where the other are 1 generation back.
I run many of these and we run then for many years without turning them off. I have many that have not been rebooted for 3 or 4 years. We mostly replace them because the vendor drops support.
They also have many more features than consumer routers but that means little since you don't need those feature in most households.
These are getting pretty cheap on ebay lately.

Wireless also works this way. Commercial AP run for many years but most these systems are still too expensive even buying used. They tend to require a controller device also since the AP are generally centrally controlled. Here I think you will just have to tolerate consumer grade equipment.

Most consumer gear and cheaper commercial stuff the failures you see is the power supply or something related to the power.
 

WafflesTheDog

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I have had the same problems with Netgear and Linksys. They have to be restarted once a week, at the least. I found the most stable to be Apple's Airport extreme, but it's low on features. I have the last version, can anyone comment on the current airport?