Please explain the difference in thse cards compared to my system

wenonah

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Ok..So I had purchased a XFX R6770 core edition DDR5 card last year and it didn't work in the other computer..long story. Anyway after calling the manufacturer I was told it would not work in my computer even though i was told from another company that it would. Now dell and several other individuals say I should get Radeon 7750 HD. What is the difference between the 2 cards and can I be assured that it will work? I dont want another psychotic episode, lol! I thought another possible card to get may be GeForce GTX280? any opinion about that card? Here is my system so far:

windows 7 home premium 32 bit

AMD Athlon 64x2dual core processor 440+

4gb ram

1Tb Western Digital hard drive

600W TR2 Thermaltake PSU

1 PCI Express 1.0 slot
 

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The 6770 is a rebranded HD 5770, which is from the AMD's HD 5000 series. The 7750 is based on the newer (current generation) technology from AMD. The HD 7750 is NOT backwards compatible with PCi-E 1.0 on your motherboard with the first generation Socket 939 Athlon 64 X2. This is not due to PCi-E specifications but due to the way the cards are designed to draw less power. I have heard of several cases of HD 7000 series not backwards compatible with PCi-E 1.0. The 6770 *should* be compatible with your motherboard, although I can't guarantee that, because every GPU board maker (in your case XFx) may or may not guarantee backwards compatibility despite what the GPU chip maker (AMD in your case) says.

For the record, I have used the HD 4000 series on a system nearly identical to yours, and it was perfectly compatible. I would venture to guess that MOST HD 5000/6000 series should run fine too.

If you want to try a Nvidia, the equivalent to the HD 7750 is the GTX 650. That has a better chance to work on your older PCI-e 1.0 board, because Nvidia supposedly sacrifices power draw optimizations for back-wards compatibility.

Compatibility issues of PCI-e 3.0 cards with older gen PCI-e boards summarized here:

http://www.overclock.net/a/the-final-answer-to-the-controversial-pcie-x16-version-compatibility

Most relevant section quoted:

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While it is true that PCI SIG while developing PCI express slots made sure that they remain compatible with each other, it is the GRAPHIC CARD manufactures (i.e Nvidia & AMD) and the sub vendors (Saffire, Zotac, EVGA etc) that really make the difference!
We all know that the AMD Radeon HD 7000 series is extremely power efficient. Having said that it comes at a cost. This power efficiency comes due to the new electrical interface featured in PCIe v3.0 and 2.0 slots and is ABSENT in PCIe v1.1 slots. Hence they are NOT COMPATIBLE.
Sources of proof: Online interaction with Sapphire technical staff
Online interaction with AMD technical staff
Personal interaction with technical staff from MSI
They all clearly stated that that PCIe v3.0 cards are not compatible with v1.1
Further to prove their point MSI was even kind enough to provide a reference card they had with them, i.e the HD 7850 and it did not work on my computer's motherboard featuring PCIe x16 v1.1 slot. Just to make sure I installed the card correctly I placed another card from Nvidia i.e GTX 560 onto the board that I got from a friend and everything worked flawlessly."
 

oddlyinsane

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All the cards will be severely bottlenecked by your CPU and motherboard. You could get the 7750 over the 6770, the difference being the former is newer, therefore more power efficient, as well as being a more powerful.

What I recommend is getting the Intel Core i3 3220 ($120), Gigabyte B75M ($80) and 4GB RAM ($20). This equates to $220. You can then get the AMD Radeon HD 7770 for $100.

If this is out of reach however, then the 7750 is probably a good choice. Every other component is fine.

P.S. don't get the GTX 280: old, hungry and hot.
 

wenonah

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Well tons of thanks to both of you! The 6770 was not recognized by my system no matter what I did! Being Easter weekend I kept trying everything that I could to make it work but to no avail :( So I finally called XFX and found it was not compatible and he stated i was because of the 1.0 and then didn't really explain it at all. So that leaves me feeling apprehensive about purchasing anything not nvidia given the comps integrated graphics is nvidia 6150LE and it is an older model. Tech at XFX said it may be in my best interest to stick with NVIDIA for those reasons. Im just a woman who prefers to do things myself and learn in the process...prissiest tomboy you'll ever meet...LOL! I started working on a broken laptop with the mindset that since it was already broken then me taking it apart and figuring it out wasn't going to hurt anything. Imagine my shock when I actually got it working when I had never touched anything but a keyboard in my life! But while most things come easy for me, this one has me a bit stumped since so many people have their own opinion. Its kind of like the Ford/Chevy debate....lots of answers there too (btw....hands down I do love Chevy trucks) ;) Sooo I guess I will check into the GTX 650 because I am just not in the mood to keep up the graphics gig any longer.