What the best gtx 680 non reference to buy??
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IMASHERIFF
April 3, 2013 1:18:31 AM
Well i'm looking at this PNY but i cant find any reviews on it, the only ones i can find are just from Newegg. Should i get it or are there any cards better that this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I was also looking at a 7970: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The only way i would get the gtx 680 would be if you guys/girls told me 3D and physx are gimmicky, which i have read but never experienced. So please share you opinion, all are accepted.
Oh and i will be mainly gaming
Thanks.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I was also looking at a 7970: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The only way i would get the gtx 680 would be if you guys/girls told me 3D and physx are gimmicky, which i have read but never experienced. So please share you opinion, all are accepted.
Oh and i will be mainly gaming
Thanks.
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IMASHERIFF
April 3, 2013 1:32:13 AM
If you must get Nvidia I would go for a GTX670 given the price to performance it is the best one out of the two. Between a GTX 670 and a 7970 well from what I have found out in order to get the same performance I got with my Sapphire HD 7970 I had to go SLI with my GTX 670 other wise the GTX 670 just did not cut it.
Do not get me wrong the GTX 670 is a nice card it is just that I found the 7970 to be faster however going SLI change that and it is now really nice setup.
I now have all of my rigs on a SLI/Crossfire setup which I do not think I would have done had I not tried the GTX670 because I never really needed it with my AMD cards at the time but now I run a 3x Asus 27" Eyefinity/Surround setup and for that you really need SLI/Crossfire for a 5760x1080 resolution.
For a single card setup go for the 7950/7970 AMD cards you will not go wrong. There are really very few games that take advantage of Physx to make it worth while as the main choose in choosing Nvidia over AMD. Lastly if you must choose Nvidia get a GTX 670 as the performance is really close to the GTX680 that the price difference is to much to make the GTX680 worth it.
Do not get me wrong the GTX 670 is a nice card it is just that I found the 7970 to be faster however going SLI change that and it is now really nice setup.
I now have all of my rigs on a SLI/Crossfire setup which I do not think I would have done had I not tried the GTX670 because I never really needed it with my AMD cards at the time but now I run a 3x Asus 27" Eyefinity/Surround setup and for that you really need SLI/Crossfire for a 5760x1080 resolution.
For a single card setup go for the 7950/7970 AMD cards you will not go wrong. There are really very few games that take advantage of Physx to make it worth while as the main choose in choosing Nvidia over AMD. Lastly if you must choose Nvidia get a GTX 670 as the performance is really close to the GTX680 that the price difference is to much to make the GTX680 worth it.
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IMASHERIFF
April 3, 2013 3:34:42 PM
bryonhowley said:
If you must get Nvidia I would go for a GTX670 given the price to performance it is the best one out of the two. Between a GTX 670 and a 7970 well from what I have found out in order to get the same performance I got with my Sapphire HD 7970 I had to go SLI with my GTX 670 other wise the GTX 670 just did not cut it.Do not get me wrong the GTX 670 is a nice card it is just that I found the 7970 to be faster however going SLI change that and it is now really nice setup.
I now have all of my rigs on a SLI/Crossfire setup which I do not think I would have done had I not tried the GTX670 because I never really needed it with my AMD cards at the time but now I run a 3x Asus 27" Eyefinity/Surround setup and for that you really need SLI/Crossfire for a 5760x1080 resolution.
For a single card setup go for the 7950/7970 AMD cards you will not go wrong. There are really very few games that take advantage of Physx to make it worth while as the main choose in choosing Nvidia over AMD. Lastly if you must choose Nvidia get a GTX 670 as the performance is really close to the GTX680 that the price difference is to much to make the GTX680 worth it.
The only reason i would be getting an nvidia card would be for the 3D. Is the 3D worth buying a worse card, If it is what non reference gtx 670 would you recommend. But if it is not then im definitively going with the sapphire vapor-x 7970
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3D is 100% worth it, much better to actually put that power to use rather than have a card that destroys everything. You just have to be aware of the downfalls, namely, the games that don't work, the crosstalk, the pains of setting it up, the performance hit etc. All worth it ten-fold if you have the patience to do it, if you go through with it make sure you head over to the site Helix mods, its a community run site that produces fixes for broken 3D games.
For a 670 the best two are the Gigabyte Windforce and Asus DirectCUII, take your pick. You only need a 2GB model as 3D is limited to 1080p, which doesn't need more than 2GB.
For a 670 the best two are the Gigabyte Windforce and Asus DirectCUII, take your pick. You only need a 2GB model as 3D is limited to 1080p, which doesn't need more than 2GB.
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IMASHERIFF
April 3, 2013 3:50:04 PM
cookybiscuit said:
3D is 100% worth it, much better to actually put that power to use rather than have a card that destroys everything. You just have to be aware of the downfalls, namely, the games that don't work, the crosstalk, the pains of setting it up, the performance hit etc. All worth it ten-fold if you have the patience to do it, if you go through with it make sure you head over to the site Helix mods, its a community run site that produces fixes for broken 3D games.For a 670 the best two are the Gigabyte Windforce and Asus DirectCUII, take your pick. You only need a 2GB model as 3D is limited to 1080p, which doesn't need more than 2GB.
is the 3D for a monitor like the 3D for a tv, i only ask because i want to try it out before i dump a grand in a monitor and a card, and do you know where i can try it, the only place i could think of was best buy but they only have 3D tv's
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If you have an Nvidia graphics card already (or know someone that does) you can use the 3D Vision Discover utility in the control panel. Its a crappy anaglyph system but allows you to get a idea of the way the 3D works. Films and console games usually just split the image into two, which doesn't produce the same effect. The Nvidia drivers render the game world from two different viewpoints, one for each eye, it produces an effect as though your monitor is a window into the game world, where-as the movie style 3D just looks like a pop-up book, because you don't get depth on an object (usually), for example if someone were to point at you, you can tell the end of their finger is closer than their head, but with the crap 3D they look flat, and the only indication it is 3D is that they are separate to the background.
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Airm3n
April 3, 2013 4:14:28 PM
The 3d on a half decent monitor looks great even more than a regular 3d tv. I am using 3x 24 inch 3d monitors with a titan and games like tomb raider (problem with shooting in the game its off a bit but I don't care) look great almost seem like the water and stuff is running down your screen in front of your face. I really enjoy the games even some that i normally probably would not play seem more exciting to me. Personally I liked the 670 I tried before from asus. The Direct CU cooler is very quiet and a lot smaller in size than in the 5xx series. The reason i switched out from that card was because it just wasn't enough to run 3 monitors at a time for gaming.
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Airm3n said:
The 3d on a half decent monitor looks great even more than a regular 3d tv. I am using 3x 24 inch 3d monitors with a titan and games like tomb raider (problem with shooting in the game its off a bit but I don't care)That problem is apparently fixed in the newest update, should be really amazing now.
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IMASHERIFF
April 3, 2013 4:19:42 PM
IMASHERIFF
April 3, 2013 4:23:56 PM
Airm3n
April 3, 2013 4:28:48 PM
For a single monitor I wouldn't even bother with a 680 then for the difference in price its not gonna give you any different experience just drain your pocket book more. I have always had good luck with the Asus DirectCU and for the last two generations i've bought a couple of those cards with no problems at all. They are quiet and efficient in my experience. EVGA though from what i hear has really good customer service but aside from my current evga titan card I have no experience with them. For that reason I would recommend the Asus 2 gb 670 version.
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IMASHERIFF
April 3, 2013 4:32:23 PM
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IMASHERIFF
April 3, 2013 4:41:12 PM
IMASHERIFF
April 3, 2013 5:01:22 PM
Best cooler by a long shot.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-tes...
Speed is utterly random, just like overclocking. The (crappy) Nvidia boost thing clocks the card to whatever is stable based on a power envelope, speed will vary from card to card, even of the same brand.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-tes...
Speed is utterly random, just like overclocking. The (crappy) Nvidia boost thing clocks the card to whatever is stable based on a power envelope, speed will vary from card to card, even of the same brand.
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IMASHERIFF
April 3, 2013 5:31:55 PM
cool well i looked on newegg and found these cards (sorry there is so many):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
For some reason they dont have the ASUS TOP
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
For some reason they dont have the ASUS TOP
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IMASHERIFF
April 3, 2013 5:50:27 PM
o dang, well what is the diffrence between
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AND
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and where there any better cards on the list that i posted that were better than these two. (sorry for talking in circles)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AND
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and where there any better cards on the list that i posted that were better than these two. (sorry for talking in circles)
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IMASHERIFF
April 3, 2013 6:04:54 PM
RussK1
April 3, 2013 6:48:12 PM
cookybiscuit said:
The Asus TOP is a rip off, just get the non-TOP, exact same card.Wrong... Asus uses higher binned chips in the TOP version. I have two DC2T's and ASIC quality is 86/83%... meaning higher OC's on stock VID. Even reviews show the Top version having higher quality chips vs the GTX 680 MSI Lightning.
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o dang, well what is the diffrence between http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AND
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and where there any better cards on the list that i posted that were better than these two. (sorry for talking in circles)
One comes with a Diablo III mouse pad like the Maximus V Formula/ThunderFX and is clocked higher being a TOP selection GPU.
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RussK1 said:
cookybiscuit said:
The Asus TOP is a rip off, just get the non-TOP, exact same card.Wrong... Asus uses higher binned chips in the TOP version. I have two DC2T's and ASIC quality is 86/83%... meaning higher OC's on stock VID. Even reviews show the Top version having higher quality chips vs the GTX 680 MSI Lightning.
It doesn't make a blind bit of difference. Theres plenty of people that have gotten crappy TOP's, and plenty that have gotten amazing non-TOP's, and vise versa. Either is a gamble and I sure as hell wouldn't pay more for a TOP, unless it was like $15.
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RussK1
April 3, 2013 7:31:14 PM
cookybiscuit said:
RussK1 said:
cookybiscuit said:
The Asus TOP is a rip off, just get the non-TOP, exact same card.Wrong... Asus uses higher binned chips in the TOP version. I have two DC2T's and ASIC quality is 86/83%... meaning higher OC's on stock VID. Even reviews show the Top version having higher quality chips vs the GTX 680 MSI Lightning.
It doesn't make a blind bit of difference. Theres plenty of people that have gotten crappy TOP's, and plenty that have gotten amazing non-TOP's, and vise versa. Either is a gamble and I sure as hell wouldn't pay more for a TOP, unless it was like $15.
So there's no difference between TOP and non-TOP? So your position is that it's a farce? You must know something that numerous review sites don't.
The GTX 680 DC2T is guaranteed 1200MHz on the core +, not including very easy to reach 1800MHz on the memory.
You think the average Kepler card is going to OC +200MHz on the core considering Kepler is voltage locked?
The only other 680's I'd consider are the Gigabyte Super Overclock (which is $479 after rebate although it's cooling is questionable) and the MSI Lightning.
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Airm3n
April 3, 2013 8:18:56 PM
IMASHERIFF
April 3, 2013 8:38:52 PM
hmm well sorry to change all the sudden but i found these cardd but they're 680's, what one is best?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ------- i sorta like it cuz it mathes my board (asrock extream 4)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ------- i sorta like it cuz it mathes my board (asrock extream 4)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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Airm3n
April 3, 2013 9:42:40 PM
Depends on whether you plan to overclock it or not? I'm sure they would all work just fine for normal use and for a single monitor any of them will provide a good gaming experience as well. Personally i'm not too picky about looks since i don't use windowed cases and prefer everything to be as silent as possible.
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IMASHERIFF
April 3, 2013 9:53:44 PM
Airm3n said:
Depends on whether you plan to overclock it or not? I'm sure they would all work just fine for normal use and for a single monitor any of them will provide a good gaming experience as well. Personally i'm not too picky about looks since i don't use windowed cases and prefer everything to be as silent as possible.well im still skeptical about over clocking (i dont know how), i will be play 1920x1080p on a single monitor. I was also wondering if the nvidia 3d vision is worth it because that would be the only reason i would buy this card, otherwise i would buy a sapphire vapor-x 7970
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RussK1
April 4, 2013 4:24:34 AM
IMASHERIFF said:
hmm well sorry to change all the sudden but i found these cardd but they're 680's, what one is best?http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ------- i sorta like it cuz it mathes my board (asrock extream 4)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Out of those the Gigabyte SOC is easily the best choice.
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IMASHERIFF
April 4, 2013 9:07:21 PM
RussK1 said:
IMASHERIFF said:
hmm well sorry to change all the sudden but i found these cardd but they're 680's, what one is best?http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ------- i sorta like it cuz it mathes my board (asrock extream 4)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Out of those the Gigabyte SOC is easily the best choice.
is it better than the ASUS DCU2 TOP
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Airm3n
April 4, 2013 9:26:18 PM
IMASHERIFF
April 4, 2013 9:29:13 PM
Airm3n said:
No I would take the ASUS DCU2 TOP over the gigabyte. Better design and very quiet. If you are gonna use single monitor you won't be able to tell the difference between them so i'd choose the one that runs the coolest. Will probably last the longest.is the ASUS THE best non reference gpu out so far?
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Airm3n
April 4, 2013 9:38:01 PM
From the ones I have seen yes. Its quiet and runs very cool. Though best get some other opinions before making a final decision i've only tried the Asus and MSI ones before. Be aware that the Asus 680 i believe has the huge cooler on it so if you don't have lots of space between pci-e slots you might not fit more than one or if you do it might block the fans right off which would be bad. Take that into account. The asus 670 directcu version I had was a 2 slot cooler (still very good but a lot smaller) and it would more likely be able to accomodate 2 cards on the majority of boards.
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gridironcj
April 4, 2013 9:47:31 PM
The EVGA Classified 680 is the most powerful of the bunch in terms of out-of-the-box clock speeds and has 4GB of vram. However, this card is $600 on Amazon currently, so you're paying about $150 more than you would for a regular 680. If you want the most powerful 680, this is the one to get. I'm not sure how well this one overclocks, but you could always go with liquid cooling solution, although that would require modification. If you're playing on high resolutions (2560x1440 or more), then you HAVE to get a 4GB 680. 2GB will not cut it, as most of these games either run a little over 2GB or completely blow past that (Hitman Absolution on 2560x1440 with MSAA x8 will hit over 3GB on some levels).
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Airm3n
April 4, 2013 9:54:08 PM
Yea thats true gridironcj I have had my titan crash from too high aa settings at 5760x1080 when trying to run valley benchmark unless i ran it wrong. It said AA was too high and you have been automatically downgraded or something like that. I think though that at 2560x1440 4gb like you said would not be a bad decision. Although going to any higher resolutions than that as in spanning multiple monitors the bus size is going to start to be a tad limiting on the cards. Only nvidia card that would handle bigger is the titan with i think 384-bit bus?
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IMASHERIFF
April 4, 2013 10:09:26 PM
Airm3n said:
Yea thats true gridironcj I have had my titan crash from too high aa settings at 5760x1080 when trying to run valley benchmark unless i ran it wrong. It said AA was too high and you have been automatically downgraded or something like that. I think though that at 2560x1440 4gb like you said would not be a bad decision. Although going to any higher resolutions than that as in spanning multiple monitors the bus size is going to start to be a tad limiting on the cards. Only nvidia card that would handle bigger is the titan with i think 384-bit bus?Hmm well im running at 1920x1080, is there any better card than the ASUS at this resolution.
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Airm3n
April 4, 2013 10:18:26 PM
IMASHERIFF
April 4, 2013 10:29:03 PM
RussK1
April 5, 2013 3:47:54 AM
gridironcj said:
The EVGA Classified 680 is the most powerful of the bunch in terms of out-of-the-box clock speeds and has 4GB of vram. However, this card is $600 on Amazon currently, so you're paying about $150 more than you would for a regular 680. If you want the most powerful 680, this is the one to get. I'm not sure how well this one overclocks, but you could always go with liquid cooling solution, although that would require modification. If you're playing on high resolutions (2560x1440 or more), then you HAVE to get a 4GB 680. 2GB will not cut it, as most of these games either run a little over 2GB or completely blow past that (Hitman Absolution on 2560x1440 with MSAA x8 will hit over 3GB on some levels).You might want to check clock speeds again with the classified vs the Gigabyte SOC.
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IMASHERIFF
April 5, 2013 1:34:03 PM
i checked out benchmarks for the classified, DCU2 TOP, and the Gigabyte SOC and the gigabyte beat the ASUS by about 1-5 fps and about the same for the classified. The gigabyte is $479.99 after rebate on newegg, the ASUS is $519.99, and the EVGA is 599.99 with no rebate. So i think im just gunna stick with my favorite the Gigabyte
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