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April 3, 2013 1:47:45 PM

I am going to be buying or building a pc here very soon, but I am looking for one that will render very well, and will also put up with capturing and playing 60 fps(min.) I understand it will be a good chunk of change. But thought I would come here and ask before I buy a PC, and I would build a PC, but i know nothing about the parts would need, or making sure that they work well together, please help. - Thanks :) 

I WILL BUILD ONE if i can get one cheaper than a prebuilt one.
If i do decide to build one, it will be my first time.

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a b 4 Gaming
April 3, 2013 5:47:19 PM

Whats your budget?

Whats your monitor resolution?
What are the games and quality settings you like?

Which parts do you need? (PSU, GPU, CPU, MB, RAM, HDD, SSD[dependent on budget], CASE, OPTICAL DRIVE, OS, CPU COOLER)

Are you considering OC?

Are you considering CFX and SLI in the future?

Which country are you buying from and when will you buy it?

Here is a guide to DIY a rig
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2011/04/how-to-build-you...
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2011/04/a...
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April 3, 2013 5:51:39 PM

$800 to $900 including that I would have to buy a moniter, I live in PA, USA. Do you think i should get OC, CFX, or SLI?
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April 3, 2013 5:53:59 PM

I will be getting i as soon as I know what you guys think i need. lol
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a b 4 Gaming
April 3, 2013 6:07:52 PM

This an OC build, non SLI/CFX
Rendering is only GPU accelerated only for OpenCL and DXVA. (CUDA is specific to Nvidia cards)[change to same priced 660ti (weaker card) if you want CUDA support]

OC 8320 is good chip compared to a stock 8350 or even an OC 8350
For recording/Rendering, I would take an FX CPU over an i5

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($172.97 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: LG EB2242T-BN 22.0" Monitor ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $918.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-03 21:06 EDT-0400)

OS build with an FX6300

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: LG EB2242T-BN 22.0" Monitor ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $920.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-03 21:08 EDT-0400)
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April 3, 2013 6:18:32 PM

Thank you so much, i will probably go and buy the monitor in one of my local stores, so just the computer i guess would be $793.86. Which is awesome. Will I need anything else like wires or will i need to sodder? It is probably in the DIY you listed. But just so I know as to when I buy the parts, and will the computer parts you listed, will hey be easy to replace in the future?. As well, will I need more fans, or just the one you listed?, Sorry if I asked to many questions.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 3, 2013 6:22:23 PM

Andrew Falcon said:
Thank you so much, i will probably go and buy the monitor in one of my local stores, so just the computer i guess would be $793.86. Which is awesome. Will I need anything else like wires or will i need to sodder? It is probably in the DIY you listed. But just so I know as to when I buy the parts, and will the computer parts you listed, will hey be easy to replace in the future?. As well, will I need more fans, or just the one you listed?, Sorry if I asked to many questions.


You should be fine with just the fans the case comes with (several nice cases with more fans is $5-10 more)

No you won't need to solder anything and the builds should have everything you need to build it. Be sure to have a screwdriver arround.

The parts are all replaceable in the future with other parts generally.
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April 3, 2013 6:27:28 PM

Thank you so much, I really do appreciate it. Um, also which build do you think i should do, as well will the parts be able to achieve the 60 fps whenever i play games while capturing them? And will rendering be pretty fast with the stuff as well?, because i heard they are two completely different things.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 3, 2013 6:31:22 PM

Which apps do you plan to use to do your rendering?

If you need to buy an OS, then get the second build. If not, get the first build.

Can't say as to how well they will handle recording but they are the best you can get with your budget really.
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April 3, 2013 6:37:21 PM

I am thinking Sony Vegas Pro 11, because I havent really used any other ones, as well I do not have an OS, but which build do you feel is better even if the OS will cost a little bit more money.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 3, 2013 6:46:55 PM

Sony Vegas Pro 11 and 12 both use OpenCl so you're good there

The first non-OS build is obviously better build with a better MB and CPU that can OC better (second mb is okay for OC but not as good). The first MB also can handle more ram, something you'll want when you're doing large rendering projects.


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April 3, 2013 6:52:18 PM

Ok, I will get the first build, but what OS should I get with it?, and I thought the CPU was for rendering...
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April 3, 2013 6:53:58 PM

And it will let me play games at 60 fps right?
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a b 4 Gaming
April 3, 2013 7:00:35 PM

Andrew Falcon said:
And it will let me play games at 60 fps right?


The rig should let you play at 1080p 60fps+ in most games (crysis 3 being the exception), recording will drop your fps by about 10-25%?

Rendering is done on the CPU but can be GPU assisted in some apps. The GPU assist will do a lot to boost your speed in rendering when it is being used.

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April 3, 2013 7:02:59 PM

Awesome, um and one more thing, what OS should I get with the first build? SHould I just get the Windows 7 like you put in the second one?
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April 3, 2013 7:05:48 PM

Idk if you would know this or not. But if I were to buy this all prebuilt from a manufacturer, which im not going to, how much do you think im saving by doing it myself?
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a b 4 Gaming
April 3, 2013 7:08:53 PM

You can get windows7 or windows 8 (get the 64bit version)

Best thing to do is go into a store and try both of them out and see which one you like better.

I would say you save about 10% but you get to choose your parts and get higher quality than a pre-built unit might give you.

Quick check shows a comparable cyberpwoerpc customs built rig by them with an monitor would cost about $1150

Yours will cost about $1000
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April 3, 2013 7:13:24 PM

hopefully im not keeping you up or anything, but one more question, all the parts work together nicely right?, like there isnt one part that is really holding behind all of the rest right?
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a b 4 Gaming
April 3, 2013 7:17:12 PM

Yep, everything should work fine together

West coast so it isn't that late yet :p 
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April 3, 2013 7:23:40 PM

Lucky, lol and thanks again, I appreciate it. :) 
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a b 4 Gaming
April 3, 2013 7:37:33 PM

No problem :) 
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April 3, 2013 7:48:47 PM

One more question if you are still there. Do you think any of the computers on cyberpowerpc even on sale, would be better than the components you selected?, or are these parts better? jw
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a b 4 Gaming
April 3, 2013 7:59:46 PM

No, nothing is better on cyberpowerpc IMO, at least not for your budget. On sale, the cyberpowerpc would match this rig IMO

Building it yourself also gives you experience to troubleshoot/upgrade/replace it in the future :) 
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a b 4 Gaming
April 3, 2013 8:12:08 PM

In My Opinion
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April 3, 2013 8:14:50 PM

Lol I asked a stupid question, sorry, lol. Thank you very much once again :) 
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