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April 3, 2013 5:43:01 PM

I need help with my gamin Build. I plan on playing current and future games(as far as about a year from now) on mid-high non HD settings and some ps2/psp emulators, so i need to know if this is an acceptable build that will get the job done

CPU-AMD FX-4300 Vishera 3.8GHz (4.0GHz) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4300WMHKBOX $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard- ASRock 970DE3/U3S3 AM3+ AMD 770 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM-CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 already bought
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE

COOLER MASTER Elite 431 Plus RC-431P-KWN2 Black Steel Body (0.5mm SECC), ABS plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $40

I also need a compatible power supply(thecheaper the better) that will efficently get the job done and a graphics card(the cheaper the better) that will get the job done
PS. please no trying to sell me on intel cpu/mobos(i've got my reasons) or overly expensive parts and builds, other than that any help is welcome

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April 3, 2013 5:54:33 PM

I'm not to experienced with FX CPUs, but from some reviews people were really unhappy and said that the phenom 965 BE is better than some FX CPUs, especially since it is quad core like the 4300 plus its cheaper...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Here is a good and quality PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And for GPU what is you budget? A 7870 is the best for the money but a 7770, or the new 650ti boost might be better for super low budget...
A budget would be nice to know.
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April 3, 2013 6:02:28 PM

First, that MOBO doesn't have there greatest VRM only 4+1 phases meaning it may not handle an overclock well, something you may consider if you want to play new games at higher settings. As far as a good GPU I would look at this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... . One thing to keep in mind is that if you go by base prices AMD is cheaper than Intel, but to effectively get good scores and fps with an FX processor you need to overclock them which builds a lot of heat and requires a really good MOBO, so you would be looking at doubling your MOBO budget and adding atleast $30 for a CM Hyper 212 cooler for the CPU, the stock cooler really can't handle any OC. Boards I would suggest for FX processors, of which I would recommend the 6300 or 8350, are any of the Gigabyte 990fxa-UD series, the ASUS sabertooth or crossfire, or the MSI 990FXA boards.
As for the rest of your build a good PSU would be http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... .
The RAM looks good.
The case will give you problems with cable management as there is little space on the back side to run cables. If you want a good case you are probably going to have to look at least at spending $80 to $100. I personally like the look and features of the Corsair C70 but cases are very much a personal choice.

Good luck with your build.
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April 3, 2013 6:03:45 PM

For a graphics card $150 would be a doable extreme for me, but id feel better with $100-$130.
With your suggested CPU what mobo would you suggest?
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April 3, 2013 6:07:14 PM

As far as my overall budget really low, so im willing to only play games on mid non Hd(dont care all that much about graphics any way) if it can keep the price on the lower side.
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April 3, 2013 6:16:15 PM

Grab the phenom II x4 965 and cooler that is same price as the FX4300 and OC it to match a stock FX4300
Then upgrade the CPU in the future and you get a cooler for that then :) 
Put in a 7790 ($150 GPU)but the saved money from the mb offsets the price on the GPU

This mb i chose might look cheap and only 4+1 phases but is actually a decent overlcoker despite its price. The most important thing is that they are real phases (some mb makers add doublers which inflates the number of phases) and that they are quality ones
Link to VRM info
http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($92.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7790 1GB Video Card ($146.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $380.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-03 21:13 EDT-0400)
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April 3, 2013 6:17:59 PM

Blue_Toaster said:
Here is a cheap 7770 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
For MOBO there might be combos out there, but if you dont plan on OCing, than this might work http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


THanks but I have a few question
1) i noticed and (OC) next to the 1600 for the compatible ram, will my above list ram (which is 1600) be able to run properly?
2)without over clocking and with you sugested MObo(its for the Phenom right?) will I be able to play a game like Crysis or other online Shooter without have bag frame drops and lagging?
thanks
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April 3, 2013 6:20:00 PM

Nin10dawg64 said:
Blue_Toaster said:
Here is a cheap 7770 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
For MOBO there might be combos out there, but if you dont plan on OCing, than this might work http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


THanks but I have a few question
1) i noticed and (OC) next to the 1600 for the compatible ram, will my above list ram (which is 1600) be able to run properly?
2)without over clocking and with you sugested MObo(its for the Phenom right?) will I be able to play a game like Crysis or other online Shooter without have bag frame drops and lagging?
thanks


The ram you have will down clock itself to 1333mhz but you can OC it to 1600mhz yourself if you want

I would go with my mb as it is a decent OC mb and depends on which crysis you're talking about :p 
You'll be fine with most online shooters with a decent OC
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April 3, 2013 6:26:18 PM

stickmansam said:
Nin10dawg64 said:
Blue_Toaster said:
Here is a cheap 7770 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
For MOBO there might be combos out there, but if you dont plan on OCing, than this might work http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


THanks but I have a few question
1) i noticed and (OC) next to the 1600 for the compatible ram, will my above list ram (which is 1600) be able to run properly?
2)without over clocking and with you sugested MObo(its for the Phenom right?) will I be able to play a game like Crysis or other online Shooter without have bag frame drops and lagging?
thanks


The ram you have will down clock itself to 1333mhz but you can OC it to 1600mhz yourself if you want

I would go with my mb as it is a decent OC mb and depends on which crysis you're talking about :p 
You'll be fine with most online shooters with a decent OC


by crysis i mean 3 and with shooters i mean BF3 planetside 2 and Tribe:ascened
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April 3, 2013 6:28:07 PM

They are a bit CPU dependent but if you play on small servers maybe there wont be any hiccups, even without that it will be less noticeable as long as the graphics are turned down a little maybe.
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April 3, 2013 6:33:59 PM

Blue_Toaster said:
They are a bit CPU dependent but if you play on small servers maybe there wont be any hiccups, even without that it will be less noticeable as long as the graphics are turned down a little maybe.


crysis 3 if you play on 1080p low/medium

In planetside 2, avoid the massive 500 player battles and you should be fine
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April 3, 2013 6:39:02 PM

What is your screen resolution?
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April 3, 2013 6:49:09 PM

stickmansam said:
Blue_Toaster said:
They are a bit CPU dependent but if you play on small servers maybe there wont be any hiccups, even without that it will be less noticeable as long as the graphics are turned down a little maybe.


crysis 3 if you play on 1080p low/medium

In planetside 2, avoid the massive 500 player battles and you should be fine

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($92.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7790 1GB Video Card ($146.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply

I'll take the mobo if i have to, but id prefer regular ATX if at all possible
ill probably substitute the 7770
for I finally check of my capabilites here are the games ill most be playing (on a non-Hd monitor)
Tribe acended
TERA
Street fighter X tekken
skull girls
Planetside 2
Bioshock infinite
Tombraider(2013)
League of legends and maybe other simislar mmo's
How can I do with these games(i only used crysis 3 as abenchmark because iv hear that its a graphics heavy game
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April 3, 2013 6:51:25 PM

Blue_Toaster said:
What is your screen resolution?


1440 by 990
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April 3, 2013 6:55:56 PM

Yeah you'll be able to run them pretty good, Here is a board a mentioned earlier, it's ATX and looks cool. Might want to get red ram if you want it to look super BA. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MMOs will run fluidly at high settings even. The other games you could tweak the settings to mid or low but you will have a stable FPS.
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April 3, 2013 6:57:22 PM

bioshock will likely be the most demanding game on your GPU, likley only run low/medium in that game, 7790 for medium

Your CPU should handle everything fine

ATX is useful only if you plan to add more ram in the future and/or wish to add expansion cards



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April 3, 2013 6:59:53 PM

You can see even at ultra it runs alright, if you lower a little bit it will look nice and run smooth. Also your res is lower and will help a bit.
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April 3, 2013 8:46:42 PM

SO i can Overclock
PU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($92.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.99 @ Microcenter) or the other suggested MOBO
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7790 1GB Video Card ($146.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply
and ill be good for all my games at around mid setting? Thank both of you very much(sorry it took so long to reply back)
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April 3, 2013 8:53:53 PM

SO i can Overclock
PU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($92.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.99 @ Microcenter) or the other suggested MOBO
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7790 1GB Video Card ($146.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply
and ill be good for all my games at around mid setting? Thank both of you very much(sorry it took so long to reply back)
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April 3, 2013 9:35:39 PM

Yeah that should run most of your games at med or higher
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April 3, 2013 10:18:55 PM

stickmansam said:
Yeah that should run most of your games at med or higher


I've got on final question. I looked up a few of the cards listed on the tombraider and bioshock charts, and im curious why didnt you recommend something like a 650 ti(like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...) that higher up for around the same price? is it a compatibility issue or something
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April 3, 2013 10:29:25 PM

Because the 7790 prefers better than the 650ti overall in other games not bioshock and tomb raider :p 

7850 > 650ti boost >= 7790 > 650ti > 7770 generally

Games will favour 1 brand or the other around launch time but as drivers get more mature, the cards will fall more or less into the tiers I have placed above
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