Highly Upgradeable $400 First Gaming PC Build

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Hello! I'm 14, and just finished saving up (for about a year) to build a pc. I plan on upgrading it soon after i build it, just want something that can hold me over until I upgrade it into an awesome gaming pc. Being able to upgrade it very extensively, and having a good motherboard, are my top priorities, since the motherboard is the only part of the build I dont plan on upgrading regularly. I have the rest of the information below. Thanks!

Request: A pc build that is very upgradeable, can work with an hdtv, with not too great graphics or other parts, just a computer that can hold me over until I can afford a better graphics card and cpu. Hopefully can play most, if not all games on low settings. (games such as planetside 2, portal 2, starcraft 2, Skyrim, and FarCry 3, even on low settings)

Approximate Purchase Date: Between this month and the summer

Budget Range: $400 (approximately)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (I know you cant get a good gaming pc for 400, but just something to keep and be able to upgrade), Movies and videos, and surfing the web.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes, but I am pretty much decided on that, I took 200 out of the build so I could buy it, but if you have any suggestions, keep the whole build at about 600.



Parts to Upgrade: Everything. 4 or more gigs of ram, other than that, stuff can really be changed. Just want stuff that can play all current games up until about 6 months to a year. Can get about a $480+ upgrade in a year, just stuff that can last until that time, or even later.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes. Windows 7, can't stand windows 8, I feel like it is slowly becoming a closed system.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg,
Location: California (USA) I live near the center of california, kind of near sacremento.

Parts Preferences: Intel and Nvidia

Overclocking: The motherboard should be able to handle it, but I dont necessarily need it right now, just want the option when I upgrade later on.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe, Just want the option, so I can upgrade to it later possibly.

Your Monitor Resolution: 16:9 1366 x 768 (HDTV, don't have it yet though)

Additional Comments: Quiet, Very upgradeable. I dont want to have to upgrade the motherboard for another 4-5 years. Other things can be upgraded periodically after I build it. Works with an HDTV.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Really Bad computer cant run games at all. Half of them I cant even run on low settings.

Thank you!
 

CaptainTom

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Start with an AMD APU and later you can add a full graphics card. Sorry a $400 build ain't happening with Nvidia, maybe intel but I think an APU build would be the most upgradeable.
 

CarterFizzy

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I was originally going to use an APU, but I perfer Intel. I don't need a Nvidia graphics card though, I can get one of those afterwards. I just want something to be able to use as the base for all the upgrades I'm going to make. I'm not sure about using a AMD processor, but it's something I would be open to. Thanks!
 

CaptainTom

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Intel doesn't offer any good choices in your price range period. I have an intel, they are great! But my laptop has AMD and it is also great!

Having a preference makes no sense anyways. It should always be taken on a product by product basis since all CPU's are different no matter the manufacturer.
 

CarterFizzy

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Yeah, I was just kind of skeptical of AMD (and I shouldn't be) because I'm more familliar with Intel. I can go with an AMD, Now I just dont know what to do next really.

I don't really know what APU to get. I could get a trinity, but I'm not sure.
 

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Here is my build, the key word is "Upgradeable":

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113281

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130661

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231634

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811208056

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151256

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-171-645&IsVirtualParent=1

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICROSOFT-WINDOWS-7-HOME-PREMIUM-64BIT-FULL-VERSION-/310216331063?pt=US_Operating_Systems_Software&hash=item483a558f37

It costs $389.40 and allows a later upgrade to 8GB of ram, a hard drive for storage, and a full sized graphics card like a 7750.
 

thehiddenlotus

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Best I could do with $400 including OS which is really tight... http://pcpartpicker.com/user/thehiddenlotus/saved/1qCG

1 stick of DDR3 1600MHz RAM so you can upgrade to 8GB easily later.
A decent Mid-Tower that will fit your future upgrades.
And Windows 7.
No optical drive though, but you don't really need one these days.

CPU AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Combo or $119.99
Motherboard Biostar Hi-Fi A85W ATX FM2 Combo or $62.00
Memory Corsair XMS3 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $25.72
Storage Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM $54.99
Case Raidmax Super Hurricane (Black) ATX Mid Tower $23.25
Power Supply Corsair 430W ATX12V $30.98
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98

Total=$404.90
 

thehiddenlotus

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A 64GB SSD is hardly large enough for Windows 7 and basic applications. Where will he store his games? This build needs to be able to last him while he gathers money to upgrade. I don't think an SSD is a good choice within his budget.
 

CarterFizzy

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Thank you! I looked at the parts, and I like everything about it, except I might need to add more storage, but other than that, its great! Thanks!
 

CarterFizzy

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Thanks for the feedback, I like that you put a midtower, and the 500GB of storage, and than later I can get an ssd. I Also like that there are 4 ram slots instead of 2, so I can upgrade it even further.
 

CaptainTom

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You know what? I was $10 under budget and this $40 HDD would put you $30 over. If you want storage now, get it! Otherwise you can definately fit a couple games on a 64GB. But I would go with an SSD and add storage as you go IMO...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-320GB-5400RPM-8MB-2-5-Notebook-SATA-Hard-Drive-PS3-/130385166592?pt=US_Internal_Hard_Disk_Drives&hash=item1e5b8fc100
 

thehiddenlotus

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I also fit the A10 APU in the $400 budget which will get you better gaming from the get go
 

CaptainTom

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Do not buy Raidmax! I hate sweeping statements but they always have the most DOA's I have ever seen. Also why would you put an APU in a massive case?
 
You should get the 500gb Hard Drive now and add a SSD at a later date. A 64gb drive will fill up very fast and in no time at all you will be out of drive space.

A Mid Tower case in my opinion is a must for one when you upgrade to a good GPU you will need a quality PSU so you need a case that can fit a standard PSU that will handle it and that 300 watt PSU in that first case would not cut it when you do your upgraded.
 

CarterFizzy

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Yeah, read the newegg reviews of raidmax. Not good, neither is the one you reccomended me though too. I went for a gigabyte case that was cheaper and generally had better reviews.

This is what I think I might go with, Give some feedback please.

Dvd Drive: Samsung dvd burner SATA Model 17.99 (dont really need it, but i kind of do need it a little, so whatever)
Case: Gigabyte Gz-f3heb black secc steel/abs atx mid tower computer case 23.99
Motherboard:Gigabyte GA-F2A85X-UP4 FM2 AMD A85x (Hudson D4) SATA 6gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard 114.99
PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX430 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply 39.99
RAM: G.SKILL Value 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) DEsktop Memory Model F3- 1600C11A-4GNT 28.99
CPU: AMD A8-5600K Trinity 3.6GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) SOcket FM@ 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU with directX11 graphic amd Radeon HD 7560D AD560KWOHJBOX 109.99


Total: 335.94 (didnt add OS yet, but it would be around $415, which is cloce enough to my price range) Any suggestions? are these all compatible? Thanks!


Oh yeah, and I think he added the APU in a larger case because I plan on upgrading to a better graphics card, and making use of as much as I can (Plus, bigger cases are more upgradeable)
 

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http://pcpartpicker.com/user/oblivionage/saved/1qDu

imo having an intel upgrade path is better but you could do this same thing with amd. integrated graphics isn't great but hey you get lots of room for upgrade both with cpu and gpu. little bit down the road get a 7850 and maybe a 3570k or 2500k and you're solid.

note: the motherboard has a great upgrade path and is very inexpensive even if you decide not to go with this build picking this motherboard would be pretty smart.

edit: okay so i realize it went over a bit because i didn't get rebate parts with ridiculous savings like the rest did. if you can find savings on these parts then that would cut it under 400.
 

CarterFizzy

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You made a good build too, but I need quad core to play some of the games I want to play with little lag on low.
 

thehiddenlotus

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What about your HDD, plus you are spending a lot on the motherboard compared to the rest of your build.
And why drop down to the A8 when the A10 is only $10 more? Do you have access to a Microcenter? The A10 is only a $100 there.

Edit: sorry should have cleaned up these quotes a bit but I'm in a rush
 

CaptainTom

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I looked up benchmarks and the A10 is like 5% stronger than the A8. He is trying to save money after all. Also If you are gonna spend over $400, you might as well get a 7750 + a Phenom II x4 and just make it a $500 build. Either save as much money as possible or spend your money well.

After all if you can't afford the PC you want now, wait until you can. The parts will be cheaper and better.
 

thehiddenlotus

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5% is worth $10 in my opinion. He only has $400 and I was able to fit the A10 in that. He can build the sytem and be able to game now and upgrade it later. Or he could save some more and build a better system from the get go but this is a good starting point. He's 14 and doesn't have access to a lot of money.
 

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Again if he doesn't have a lot of money, why would he get a big case? The 7750 is $100 and he can easily upgrade to that or its successor later.

Also OP, wait for the Richland APU's to come out. They should release in under a month and they look to be quite a bit stronger than Trinity.
 

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You should rather just save up your money instead of spending $400 off the start and then spending $100 or $200 here and there. Reason is, is that a $600-700 off the start will be a lot stronger than a PC starting at $400 and then adding $200 afterwards and not to mention a lot more choices with advantages of upgrading.
 

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Shaking my head at idiots who waste a quarter of their budget on OS. You know how easy it is to wiggle one out of somewhere? For free? SAME THING as the "real" one. And doesn't your school give you one for free?
 

thehiddenlotus

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We do not support piracy here at Tom's :pfff:

Some colleges offer Windows OS through Microsoft DreamSpark to some of their majors but he's 14.
 

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