HD 7850 FPS Drops in Tomb Raider, is it just me?

mike2012 · Apr 5, 2013

Hey, Mike2012 here. I have a rig with a Core i3 2120 CPU and an HD 7850 OC GPU.

Tomb Raider in most places will run at 60fps on high settings at 1080p...

However, at the part of the game where Lara needs to find the wolves and there's a lot of rain the fps drops below 60fps even on low at 720p.

In similar games like Black Ops II or Just Cause 2 when there's a lot of rain, I can still maintain 60fps.

Is this an optimization issue or is it just me?

jaslion · Apr 5, 2013

mike2012 :

your cpu is bottlenecking the graphics card because the rain starts useing a lot off your cpu so the cpu can't feed the hd 7850 enough and starts to lag. solution: get a better cpu ex a cheap i5 with onboard hd graphics so you can use those to help the fps in your games.

mike2012 · Apr 5, 2013

jaslion :

Then we can conclude the game is unoptimized then. Like I said, there are sections where there's a ton of rain in Black Ops II and it still maintains 60fps.

No other game but BF3 64-man multiplayer noticeably bottlenecks my Core i3 2120.

mike2012 · Apr 5, 2013

Duke Nucome :

mike2012 :

Tomb Raider is a much much much better looking game than Black Ops LOL and it requires much more resources. I am in the same boat with a 7850 and Phenom II CPU bottleneck. Anyway Tomb Raider needs at leased a 7970 GE to max out so there's that.

But like I said on low graphics at 720p, I'm only getting in the low 50's at that spot.

The game will run on high at 1080p at 60fps before that, then at that section, it will drop all the way down to 30fps.

The point I was trying to make though is, is that in Black Ops II with everything on max, with tons of enemies on screen, I still get 60fps when there's a lot of rain.

I think this a software issue.

jaslion · Apr 6, 2013

Duke Nucome :

never heard off the thing that you can use the onboard intel graphics with the graphics card you have too boost your game lavcopricetech did a video about that with there 670 ftw edition and it gained 2300 points in 3d mark with it and better performance in games so i would go for it if you have it.

jaslion · Apr 6, 2013

mike2012 :

Duke Nucome :

But like I said on low graphics at 720p, I'm only getting in the low 50's at that spot.

The game will run on high at 1080p at 60fps before that, then at that section, it will drop all the way down to 30fps.

The point I was trying to make though is, is that in Black Ops II with everything on max, with tons of enemies on screen, I still get 60fps when there's a lot of rain.

I think this a software issue.

try useing the latest beta catalyst drivers from amd that could help.

mike2012 · Apr 6, 2013

Duke Nucome :

mike2012 :

Duke Nucome :

mike2012 :

The lower the resolution and graphics settings the more biased is put onto the CPU.

mike2012 :

The key words here are "High" & "1080P" so the biased was moved toward the GPU and away from the CPU because the resolution and IQ settings were cranked up.

mike2012 :

Black Ops 2 is an easy game to run. It does not tax hardware and will run on a toaster @ 60fps.

mike2012 :

Yes it is a software issue Tomb raider is much more demanding software to run than is Black Ops 2.

Yes, demanding because of an error in the coding.

Not even BF3 on high at 1080p in single player, drops all the way down to 30fps.

Tomb Raider on low, does not look better than BF3 on high.

I'll try new drivers or whatever, but it looks like I'll just have to wait for them to patch to enjoy the game.

mike2012 · Apr 6, 2013

Not sure if you're trolling or not. But there's not enough going on in Tomb Raider to justify getting less than 60fps on low at 720p on a system that can do 60fps in most games on high or max settings.

It's an optimization issue due to it being a console port and all I can wait for them to do is patch it.

Getting 60fps the whole rest of the game, then having a massive fps drop when there's rain, means there's something wrong with the game.

I've boiled it down to 2 things that are unoptimized and causing the low fps:
Level of detail. If I turn the level of detail to low I get a huge FPS boost.

Post Processing. If I turn the Post Processing to off I can get a solid 60fps even with all the rain.

jaslion · Apr 7, 2013

Duke Nucome :

jaslion :

That's a lie Intel HD is not compatible with nvidia GeForece or AMD Radeon HD. Furture a ultra low end integrated GPU would slow down any high performance discrete GPU.

if its a lie why is this true than? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne9pqx9ZJfk the lavco price tech movie that shows its true and my friend does this and it WORKS.

jaslion · Apr 7, 2013

Duke Nucome :

jaslion :

Duke Nucome :

if its a lie why is this true than? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne9pqx9ZJfk the lavco price tech movie that shows its true and my friend does this and it WORKS.

10:51 quote Price "I think we can safely say "Don't" run Virtu"

in sli/crossfire or if you have a really powerful gpu. it works
edit: SORRY I LINKED THE WRONG MOVIE RIGHT LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i5OKS1mj7E SORRY what a fail

jaslion · Apr 7, 2013

Duke Nucome :

jaslion :

Duke Nucome :

in sli/crossfire or if you have a really powerful gpu. it works
edit: SORRY I LINKED THE WRONG MOVIE RIGHT LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i5OKS1mj7E SORRY what a fail

It's an Intel Marketing Gimmick. If you want better performance in gaming you need better GPUs and a capable CPU to feed them. 3DMark11 is a theoretical synthetic benchmark so if you want a higher number in theory then use Virtu in 3DMark11. If you want superior performance when playing actual games invest in a higher end GPU and CPU.

true but if you get something with your cpu and you don't have a high end card then it is useable. and why not you have it so why not use it

jaslion · Apr 7, 2013

Duke Nucome :

jaslion :

Duke Nucome :

jaslion :

It's an Intel Marketing Gimmick. If you want better performance in gaming you need better GPUs and a capable CPU to feed them. 3DMark11 is a theoretical synthetic benchmark so if you want a higher number in theory then use Virtu in 3DMark11. If you want superior performance when playing actual games invest in a higher end GPU and CPU.

true but if you get something with your cpu and you don't have a high end card then it is useable. and why not you have it so why not use it

In theroy it works for example in 3Dmark but while gaming the difference will be the GPU and actual Physical CPU cores clock speed and architecture that will make a tangible difference not some software that artificially boost the 3Dmark11 score. If Virtu actually worked it would be made well known and highly publicized and utilized by game developers.

wierd because my friend get a bit of an performance boost in every games he plays when that is on but what you say is true it should be better known

jaslion · Apr 7, 2013

Duke Nucome :

jaslion :

Duke Nucome :

jaslion :

In theroy it works for example in 3Dmark but while gaming the difference will be the GPU and actual Physical CPU cores clock speed and architecture that will make a tangible difference not some software that artificially boost the 3Dmark11 score. If Virtu actually worked it would be made well known and highly publicized and utilized by game developers.

wierd because my friend get a bit of an performance boost in every games he plays when that is on but what you say is true it should be better known

It would be better known if it actually made a tangible difference. I think your friend wants it to work but the fact is that it is adding nothing tangible in practice just like Hyperthreading.

that good old hyperthreading i did an generation test (p4-i7) and the result was that the p4 had the best hyperthreading boost (12%) and the i7 (4%) but my friend gets about 5 frames more if he enables it so your write just like hyperthreading

jaslion · Apr 7, 2013

Duke Nucome :

jaslion :

I don't think you understand.

Hyper threading does not make a difference in gaming just like Virtu. Per CPU core speed, GPUs and "Hardware architecture" make the difference not gimmicky software like HT and Virtu. Anyways this is ridiculous and off topic so I am done here.

i know that ht doesn't work in games because it is fake an d yes this is off topic

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