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April 7, 2013 7:59:04 AM

hey guys just wanna suggestion on my fps for crisis 3......am getting 30fps on all low settings so just wanna ask that is it al right or I can do much more better and how.....my config i:

am3 mobo
4gb ddr3 ram
phenon 2 x4 840 3.2ghz
sapphire 7770
corsair cx500
I tb Seagate ......

any comments will be appreciated...tks
April 7, 2013 8:04:55 AM

crysis 3 is very cpu intensive game, hence your seeing cpu bottoleck even on low setting framerates is 30fps This will not change much even if you upgrade to more powerful GFX card. CPU overclocking can reduce this bottolence a little not much, even the OC 3930k struggles to keep 60+fps in crysis3 at some levels, Thanks
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April 7, 2013 8:58:36 AM

Narindar Kalsi said:
hey guys just wanna suggestion on my fps for crisis 3......am getting 30fps on all low settings so just wanna ask that is it al right or I can do much more better and how.....my config i:

am3 mobo
4gb ddr3 ram
phenon 2 x4 840 3.2ghz
sapphire 7770
corsair cx500
I tb Seagate ......

any comments will be appreciated...tks


Low settings on cry 3 is like high setting in most games 30 fps with a 7770 is not bad. I humbly disagree with imomun on gpu upgrade not making a difference. Although cry 3 is cpu intensive your7770 is not enough. Here is a 7770 on a i7 playing cry 3 with medium settings
http://media.bestofmicro.com/7/H/377405/original/Crysis...

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April 7, 2013 12:16:04 PM

so is there any kind of an upgrade which I can do to ????.....this is not at all harmful to my hardware components right????
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April 7, 2013 12:29:37 PM

Narindar Kalsi said:
so is there any kind of an upgrade which I can do to ????.....this is not at all harmful to my hardware components right????


Depends on your budget ? In the 150 dollar range hd 7850, gtx650 ti boost, but to see a serious jump over your 7770 , I would say 7950 or 7870 xt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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April 7, 2013 1:31:54 PM

Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Narindar Kalsi said:
so is there any kind of an upgrade which I can do to ????.....this is not at all harmful to my hardware components right????


Depends on your budget ? In the 150 dollar range hd 7850, gtx650 ti boost, but to see a serious jump over your 7770 , I would say 7950 or 7870 xt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



His CPU will not handle a high end GPU well heck it will even bottle neck a mid range card. Even the 7850 is effectively double the resources of a 7770.


And i am saying BS, it will not bottleneck anything worth worrying about. In Toms 18 cpu shoot out http://media.bestofmicro.com/F/8/371204/original/FarCry...
It showed marginal differences in fps as long as it was 4 cores running at least 3ghz and that was with a GTX 680. Just to stop you before you say his cpu is not in the chart , The 3870k is very close to his amd chip

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April 7, 2013 6:20:06 PM

Sure in cpu intensive games there will be a little bottleneck but not enough to warrant a new cpu. At least not until you get up to a 7870 or gtx 680 gpu and even then i doubt he would even notice the difference.
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April 8, 2013 3:53:01 AM

tourist said:
Sure in cpu intensive games there will be a little bottleneck but not enough to warrant a new cpu. At least not until you get up to a 7870 or gtx 680 gpu and even then i doubt he would even notice the difference.







Not true
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April 8, 2013 5:58:46 AM

how abut if I upgrade my ram to 8gb ddr3 ....will it be al right then???
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April 8, 2013 6:07:30 AM

Narindar Kalsi said:
how abut if I upgrade my ram to 8gb ddr3 ....will it be al right then???


6GB or 8GB is much better in gaming compared to 4gb
But this has little to do with framerates / graphics improvement.
This will make gaming/loading smoother but that's it.
Adding a new GFX Card will have the biggest impact (provided you got the CPU support)

For example : Adding a HD7870 might give you 15FPS more but the same card some one with LGA2011 platform can get 30FPS simply because the platform and processor will support the GPU more compared to yours in processing complex geometry shading textures etc that the Game (Crysis 3) features

In that sense spending more money on the GFX card might not look wise but this depends on How you would like to look at it.

Thanks

Edit: Heres chart that shows how the same card produces different result in a game with various processors :

http://www.techspot.com/articles-info/608/bench/CPU_01....


Narindar Kalsi said:
I actually bought a new gpu sapphire 7770 and a corsair cx500 or my pc coz it was the max I could buy due to my budget issues and my pc config .....am normally play all the games hence I thought to share this since this a new upgrade for me .....also my cpu's temp is around 50c..am sure that should be fine and also next month am planning to buy a 8 gb ddr3 corsair vengeance ram ....so basically what my question is that am I making a right choice with what pc config I have or else there something else that I could do .....thanks


As my 1st post suggested No worries bud all gamers even with $1000 system are struggling some or less with crysis3 so your no lamer. Your system is fine for gaming, just be sure to pick a 64 bit windows if you don't have might need it for 4GB & + memory utilization.
Happy Gaming, Thanks


tourist said:
Can you give me a direct link to this review ? Using 1920x 1200 to prove a bottleneck is weak, very weak considering the discussion.

As requested by tourist heres the source: http://www.techspot.com/review/608-hitman-absolution-pe...
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April 8, 2013 7:08:13 AM

I actually bought a new gpu sapphire 7770 and a corsair cx500 or my pc coz it was the max I could buy due to my budget issues and my pc config .....am normally play all the games hence I thought to share this since this a new upgrade for me .....also my cpu's temp is around 50c..am sure that should be fine and also next month am planning to buy a 8 gb ddr3 corsair vengeance ram ....so basically what my question is that am I making a right choice with what pc config I have or else there something else that I could do .....thanks
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April 8, 2013 8:53:15 AM

iplikator3333 said:
tourist said:
Sure in cpu intensive games there will be a little bottleneck but not enough to warrant a new cpu. At least not until you get up to a 7870 or gtx 680 gpu and even then i doubt he would even notice the difference.







Not true


Care to prove IT ? All i am hearing is his cpu will be a bottleneck Yet NO ONE HAS POSTED ANY PROOF ! Recommending someone spend money on a new Cpu for 10 fps in a few games is ridiculous.



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April 8, 2013 10:06:13 AM

What does it prove ? That when using amd there is little difference in cpu performance from a 840 to 8350. Intel is faster and would show a bigger difference but that is not the case here. He wants the best upgrade option and that is a gpu and not switching over to intel.
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April 8, 2013 10:16:24 AM

Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
What does it prove ? That when using amd there is little difference in cpu performance from a 840 to 8350.


That's a pretty ignorant and unfounded claim not just untrue.

tourist said:
Intel is faster and would show a bigger difference but that is not the case here. He wants the best upgrade option and that is a gpu and not switching over to intel.


No point in upgrading a GPU when the CPU will make the investment near enough moot. OP does not need to switch over to Intel an FX Pilerdriver CPU will be fine.






Agree
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April 8, 2013 1:44:34 PM

imomun said:
Narindar Kalsi said:
how abut if I upgrade my ram to 8gb ddr3 ....will it be al right then???


6GB or 8GB is much better in gaming compared to 4gb
But this has little to do with framerates / graphics improvement.
This will make gaming/loading smoother but that's it.
Adding a new GFX Card will have the biggest impact (provided you got the CPU support)

For example : Adding a HD7870 might give you 15FPS more but the same card some one with LGA2011 platform can get 30FPS simply because the platform and processor will support the GPU more compared to yours in processing complex geometry shading textures etc that the Game (Crysis 3) features

In that sense spending more money on the GFX card might not look wise but this depends on How you would like to look at it.

Thanks

Edit: Heres chart that shows how the same card produces different result in a game with various processors :

http://www.techspot.com/articles-info/608/bench/CPU_01....


Narindar Kalsi said:
I actually bought a new gpu sapphire 7770 and a corsair cx500 or my pc coz it was the max I could buy due to my budget issues and my pc config .....am normally play all the games hence I thought to share this since this a new upgrade for me .....also my cpu's temp is around 50c..am sure that should be fine and also next month am planning to buy a 8 gb ddr3 corsair vengeance ram ....so basically what my question is that am I making a right choice with what pc config I have or else there something else that I could do .....thanks


As my 1st post suggested No worries bud all gamers even with $1000 system are struggling some or less with crysis3 so your no lamer. Your system is fine for gaming, just be sure to pick a 64 bit windows if you don't have might need it for 4GB & + memory utilization.
Happy Gaming, Thanks


Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
What does it prove ? That when using amd there is little difference in cpu performance from a 840 to 8350.


That's a pretty ignorant and unfounded claim not just untrue.

tourist said:
Intel is faster and would show a bigger difference but that is not the case here. He wants the best upgrade option and that is a gpu and not switching over to intel.


No point in upgrading a GPU when the CPU will make the investment near enough moot. OP does not need to switch over to Intel an FX Pilerdriver CPU will be fine.


Can you give me a direct link to this review ? Using 1920x 1200 to prove a bottleneck is weak, very weak considering the discussion.

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April 8, 2013 1:45:09 PM

Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
What does it prove ? That when using amd there is little difference in cpu performance from a 840 to 8350.


That's a pretty ignorant and unfounded claim not just untrue.

tourist said:
Intel is faster and would show a bigger difference but that is not the case here. He wants the best upgrade option and that is a gpu and not switching over to intel.


No point in upgrading a GPU when the CPU will make the investment near enough moot. OP does not need to switch over to Intel an FX Pilerdriver CPU will be fine.


From the graph above
athlon x4 640 @3.0 = 29fps
Fx 4170 @4.2 =32fps his 840 is close to the 4170
fx 6200 @3.8 =38fps

I am just amazed someone would suggest a 150 dollar cpu upgrade for less than 10fps on a 7970 and it will be a lot less on his 7770. Better to put the same 150 into a 7850 or 650 ti boost.

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April 8, 2013 6:51:52 PM

Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Sure in cpu intensive games there will be a little bottleneck but not enough to warrant a new cpu. At least not until you get up to a 7870 or gtx 680 gpu and even then i doubt he would even notice the difference.


I notice the difference in games I own and play where my CPU is a slug like Guild Wars 2 and Fable III and it really sucks it really really sucks because i just got a new GPU that does not even work in games that are CPU bound. I should say that the CPU problem is GW2 and Fable III is allot more than a little bit of a bottleneck it's a major bottleneck. The there's the games with the dreaded "Intel Compiler" which run like a slug on AMD chips. Oh ya I forgot to meantion what my CPU is LOL Phenom II x4 970 OCed.


Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
What does it prove ? That when using amd there is little difference in cpu performance from a 840 to 8350.


That's a pretty ignorant and unfounded claim not just untrue.

tourist said:
Intel is faster and would show a bigger difference but that is not the case here. He wants the best upgrade option and that is a gpu and not switching over to intel.


No point in upgrading a GPU when the CPU will make the investment near enough moot. OP does not need to switch over to Intel an FX Pilerdriver CPU will be fine.


From the graph above
athlon x4 640 @3.0 = 29fps
Fx 4170 @4.2 =32fps his 840 is close to the 4170
fx 6200 @3.8 =38fps

I am just amazed someone would suggest a 150 dollar cpu upgrade for less than 10fps on a 7970 and it will be a lot less on his 7770. Better to put the same 150 into a 7850 or 650 ti boost.



Because with an OCed FX 8300 OP would be close to 60fps hypothetically in Hitman Absolution whereas on the Phenom II 840 he would struggle to keep above 30fps.


If he is playing hitman absolution on highest settings at 1920x1200 with a 400 dollar gpu he will see a bottleneck compared to a 8300 .Ok Yes but i bet the OP is not gaming at that res and the difference is much less dropping down to a 7870, 7850 650ti boost.

I want to be clear ! you are saying he will see a larger fps increase switching to a 8350 over a 7870 ?

Can he even upgrade to fx on his am3 board ?

You mentioned skyrim the difference between a 8350 and 4170 is 7fps
http://media.bestofmicro.com/F/E/371210/original/Skyrim...
starcraft 2 both equal
http://media.bestofmicro.com/F/H/371213/original/StarCr...
Both CPU Dependent games RIGHT ?

I still say he will not notice a little bottleneck at lower resolutions



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April 8, 2013 7:05:47 PM

Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Sure in cpu intensive games there will be a little bottleneck but not enough to warrant a new cpu. At least not until you get up to a 7870 or gtx 680 gpu and even then i doubt he would even notice the difference.


I notice the difference in games I own and play where my CPU is a slug like Guild Wars 2 and Fable III and it really sucks it really really sucks because i just got a new GPU that does not even work in games that are CPU bound. I should say that the CPU problem is GW2 and Fable III is allot more than a little bit of a bottleneck it's a major bottleneck. The there's the games with the dreaded "Intel Compiler" which run like a slug on AMD chips. Oh ya I forgot to meantion what my CPU is LOL Phenom II x4 970 OCed.


Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
What does it prove ? That when using amd there is little difference in cpu performance from a 840 to 8350.


That's a pretty ignorant and unfounded claim not just untrue.

tourist said:
Intel is faster and would show a bigger difference but that is not the case here. He wants the best upgrade option and that is a gpu and not switching over to intel.


No point in upgrading a GPU when the CPU will make the investment near enough moot. OP does not need to switch over to Intel an FX Pilerdriver CPU will be fine.


From the graph above
athlon x4 640 @3.0 = 29fps
Fx 4170 @4.2 =32fps his 840 is close to the 4170
fx 6200 @3.8 =38fps

I am just amazed someone would suggest a 150 dollar cpu upgrade for less than 10fps on a 7970 and it will be a lot less on his 7770. Better to put the same 150 into a 7850 or 650 ti boost.



Because with an OCed FX 8300 OP would be close to 60fps hypothetically in Hitman Absolution whereas on the Phenom II 840 he would struggle to keep above 30fps.


If he is playing hitman absolution on highest settings at 1920x1200 with a 400 dollar gpu he will see a bottleneck compared to a 8300 .Ok Yes but i bet the OP is not gaming at that res and the difference is much less dropping down to a 7870, 7850 650ti boost.

I want to be clear ! you are saying he will see a larger fps increase switching to a 8350 over a 7870 ?

Can he even upgrade to fx on his am3 board ?

You mentioned skyrim the difference between a 8350 and 4170 is 7fps
http://media.bestofmicro.com/F/E/371210/original/Skyrim...
starcraft 2 both equal
http://media.bestofmicro.com/F/H/371213/original/StarCr...
Both CPU Dependent games RIGHT ?

I still say he will not notice a little bottleneck at lower resolutions





It's doesn't matter what GPU OP will get to run Crysis at a good set of IQ settings and performance he will be bottle necked and severely limited with his CPU.


So your answer is YES you believe he will see a greater fps increase with a 8350 over a 7870 ?

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April 8, 2013 7:51:52 PM

Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Sure in cpu intensive games there will be a little bottleneck but not enough to warrant a new cpu. At least not until you get up to a 7870 or gtx 680 gpu and even then i doubt he would even notice the difference.


I notice the difference in games I own and play where my CPU is a slug like Guild Wars 2 and Fable III and it really sucks it really really sucks because i just got a new GPU that does not even work in games that are CPU bound. I should say that the CPU problem is GW2 and Fable III is allot more than a little bit of a bottleneck it's a major bottleneck. The there's the games with the dreaded "Intel Compiler" which run like a slug on AMD chips. Oh ya I forgot to meantion what my CPU is LOL Phenom II x4 970 OCed.


Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
What does it prove ? That when using amd there is little difference in cpu performance from a 840 to 8350.


That's a pretty ignorant and unfounded claim not just untrue.

tourist said:
Intel is faster and would show a bigger difference but that is not the case here. He wants the best upgrade option and that is a gpu and not switching over to intel.


No point in upgrading a GPU when the CPU will make the investment near enough moot. OP does not need to switch over to Intel an FX Pilerdriver CPU will be fine.


From the graph above
athlon x4 640 @3.0 = 29fps
Fx 4170 @4.2 =32fps his 840 is close to the 4170
fx 6200 @3.8 =38fps

I am just amazed someone would suggest a 150 dollar cpu upgrade for less than 10fps on a 7970 and it will be a lot less on his 7770. Better to put the same 150 into a 7850 or 650 ti boost.



Because with an OCed FX 8300 OP would be close to 60fps hypothetically in Hitman Absolution whereas on the Phenom II 840 he would struggle to keep above 30fps.


If he is playing hitman absolution on highest settings at 1920x1200 with a 400 dollar gpu he will see a bottleneck compared to a 8300 .Ok Yes but i bet the OP is not gaming at that res and the difference is much less dropping down to a 7870, 7850 650ti boost.

I want to be clear ! you are saying he will see a larger fps increase switching to a 8350 over a 7870 ?

Can he even upgrade to fx on his am3 board ?

You mentioned skyrim the difference between a 8350 and 4170 is 7fps
http://media.bestofmicro.com/F/E/371210/original/Skyrim...
starcraft 2 both equal
http://media.bestofmicro.com/F/H/371213/original/StarCr...
Both CPU Dependent games RIGHT ?

I still say he will not notice a little bottleneck at lower resolutions





It's doesn't matter what GPU OP will get to run Crysis at a good set of IQ settings and performance he will be bottle necked and severely limited with his CPU.


So your answer is YES you believe he will see a greater fps increase with a 8350 over a 7870 ?



No my position is that OP will be bottlenecked by the CPU he currently has in his rig Phenom II x4 840. He is getting 30fps on all low setting because his CPU is bottelenecking his GPU even if OP upgrades to a good powerful GPU he will see the same framerate as he currently has on his 7770 because of the CPU limitation.


Well i will have to agree to disagree. No fps improvement going from a 7770 to a 7870 is hard to believe. If you can find a benchmark showing no improvement I would like to see it.

Curious Why no comment on skyrim, starcraft are they not cpu dependent games ?
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April 8, 2013 10:13:56 PM

aiite guys that's a lotta discussion going on my gpu but to be vry frank with everyone here that am not gonna upgrade my gpu for a very long time coz this is d new 1 which I got......the question is am I getting bottlenecked or not???
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April 9, 2013 8:47:48 AM

Narindar Kalsi said:
aiite guys that's a lotta discussion going on my gpu but to be vry frank with everyone here that am not gonna upgrade my gpu for a very long time coz this is d new 1 which I got......the question is am I getting bottlenecked or not???


And i am sorry for that Narindar Kalsi. 30fps is good for your system and i would not worry about it until upgrade time. If it is you will need a micrometer to measure it

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April 9, 2013 11:14:35 AM

Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Narindar Kalsi said:
aiite guys that's a lotta discussion going on my gpu but to be vry frank with everyone here that am not gonna upgrade my gpu for a very long time coz this is d new 1 which I got......the question is am I getting bottlenecked or not???


And i am sorry for that Narindar Kalsi. 30fps is good for your system and i would not worry about it until upgrade time. If it is you will need a micrometer to measure it



You don;t understand what you are talking about when you are going on about CPUs and how they get bottlenecked game engines if they are slow like OPs CPU.


And you are babbling little monkey throwing *hit. I posted links showing a difference of less than 10fps. What did you offer ? I have a OC 970 and it is bottlenck by my new 7850. It must be AMD fault

Lets solve this Now
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1648099/pll-840-bo...

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April 9, 2013 11:41:13 AM

Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Narindar Kalsi said:
aiite guys that's a lotta discussion going on my gpu but to be vry frank with everyone here that am not gonna upgrade my gpu for a very long time coz this is d new 1 which I got......the question is am I getting bottlenecked or not???


And i am sorry for that Narindar Kalsi. 30fps is good for your system and i would not worry about it until upgrade time. If it is you will need a micrometer to measure it



You don;t understand what you are talking about when you are going on about CPUs and how they get bottlenecked game engines if they are slow like OPs CPU.


And you are babbling little monkey throwing *hit. I posted links showing a difference of less than 10fps. What did you offer ? I have a OC 970 and it is bottlenck by my new 7850. It must be AMD fault

Lets solve this Now
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1648099/pll-840-bo...



Why does LOTRO lag in Towns down to 18fps in some spot and my CPU cores are pegged then outside of town it goes back up to 60fps locked. It's a CPU bottleneck and my CPU is much better than OPs.


Who knows maybe you suck at building Bilbo Baggins
system requiremnets for lotro is
Recommended System Requirements

O.S.: Windows® XP/Vista
Processor: Intel Pentium® 4 2.8 GHz or equivalent
RAM: 1GB
Video: 128MB NVIDIA GeForce® 6800 or ATI® Radeon® X850
Disk Space: 10GB available
DirectX: DirectX® 9.0c
Optical Drive: 2X DVD ROM
Connection: Broadband DSL/Cable

http://media.bestofmicro.com/N/A/285958/original/LOTRO%...

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April 9, 2013 11:43:23 AM

Guyz, could we please stop this argument it seems no benefit for anyone,
our main objective shouldn't be to establish our opinions/views but to help OP.
After all this is not our thread, Thanks
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April 9, 2013 11:51:16 AM

Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Narindar Kalsi said:
aiite guys that's a lotta discussion going on my gpu but to be vry frank with everyone here that am not gonna upgrade my gpu for a very long time coz this is d new 1 which I got......the question is am I getting bottlenecked or not???


And i am sorry for that Narindar Kalsi. 30fps is good for your system and i would not worry about it until upgrade time. If it is you will need a micrometer to measure it



You don;t understand what you are talking about when you are going on about CPUs and how they get bottlenecked game engines if they are slow like OPs CPU.


And you are babbling little monkey throwing *hit. I posted links showing a difference of less than 10fps. What did you offer ? I have a OC 970 and it is bottlenck by my new 7850. It must be AMD fault

Lets solve this Now
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1648099/pll-840-bo...



Why does LOTRO lag in Towns down to 18fps in some spot and my CPU cores are pegged then outside of town it goes back up to 60fps locked. It's a CPU bottleneck and my CPU is much better than OPs.


Who knows maybe you suck at building Bilbo Baggins
system requiremnets for lotro is
Recommended System Requirements

O.S.: Windows® XP/Vista
Processor: Intel Pentium® 4 2.8 GHz or equivalent
RAM: 1GB
Video: 128MB NVIDIA GeForce® 6800 or ATI® Radeon® X850
Disk Space: 10GB available
DirectX: DirectX® 9.0c
Optical Drive: 2X DVD ROM
Connection: Broadband DSL/Cable

http://media.bestofmicro.com/N/A/285958/original/LOTRO%...



Goes to show you do not know what you are talking about if you think that system requirements just to launch the app will play the game smoothly.


No I actually went to the lotro forums and did a little research. Your lag is server side and there is nothing you can do with it so stop blaming amd for your bad internet connection.

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April 9, 2013 12:21:20 PM

imomun said:
Guyz, could we please stop this argument it seems no benefit for anyone,
our main objective shouldn't be to establish our opinions/views but to help OP.
After all this is not our thread, Thanks


Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Narindar Kalsi said:
aiite guys that's a lotta discussion going on my gpu but to be vry frank with everyone here that am not gonna upgrade my gpu for a very long time coz this is d new 1 which I got......the question is am I getting bottlenecked or not???


And i am sorry for that Narindar Kalsi. 30fps is good for your system and i would not worry about it until upgrade time. If it is you will need a micrometer to measure it



You don;t understand what you are talking about when you are going on about CPUs and how they get bottlenecked game engines if they are slow like OPs CPU.


And you are babbling little monkey throwing *hit. I posted links showing a difference of less than 10fps. What did you offer ? I have a OC 970 and it is bottlenck by my new 7850. It must be AMD fault

Lets solve this Now
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1648099/pll-840-bo...



Why does LOTRO lag in Towns down to 18fps in some spot and my CPU cores are pegged then outside of town it goes back up to 60fps locked. It's a CPU bottleneck and my CPU is much better than OPs.


Who knows maybe you suck at building Bilbo Baggins
system requiremnets for lotro is
Recommended System Requirements

O.S.: Windows® XP/Vista
Processor: Intel Pentium® 4 2.8 GHz or equivalent
RAM: 1GB
Video: 128MB NVIDIA GeForce® 6800 or ATI® Radeon® X850
Disk Space: 10GB available
DirectX: DirectX® 9.0c
Optical Drive: 2X DVD ROM
Connection: Broadband DSL/Cable

http://media.bestofmicro.com/N/A/285958/original/LOTRO%...



Goes to show you do not know what you are talking about if you think that system requirements just to launch the app will play the game smoothly.


No I actually went to the lotro forums and did a little research. Your lag is server side and there is nothing you can do with it so stop blaming amd for your bad internet connection.



No I actually checked my CPU usage and all 4 cores were pegged at 100% in town when the lagging occurs with lots of NPCs on screen at once indicating it's a CPU bottleneck. If it was a server issue then I would lag outside of town as well. See in areas of MMOs where there are allot of NPCs and players on screen it takes much CPU power. Also GW2 lags allot as well as WoW because MMOs take up allot of CPU resources which Phenom II CPUs lack.


Something is deffinatly wrong with your pc. Pegging all four cores is not right fo this game based on what i am reading

LoTRO: Only using one Processor Core

I noticed a significant drop in loading performance when I upgraded to an AMD Phenom Tri-core. Watching my performance, I realized why: this game doesn't utilize multiple cores. It throws everything on one core, which is why logging in takes me a full two minutes.

I checked with a friend who recently got an i7, and he has the same issue- one core bears the burden, and the rest run idle.

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April 9, 2013 2:07:32 PM

imomun said:
Guyz, could we please stop this argument it seems no benefit for anyone,
our main objective shouldn't be to establish our opinions/views but to help OP.
After all this is not our thread, Thanks





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April 9, 2013 2:19:29 PM

Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
imomun said:
Guyz, could we please stop this argument it seems no benefit for anyone,
our main objective shouldn't be to establish our opinions/views but to help OP.
After all this is not our thread, Thanks


Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:
Narindar Kalsi said:
aiite guys that's a lotta discussion going on my gpu but to be vry frank with everyone here that am not gonna upgrade my gpu for a very long time coz this is d new 1 which I got......the question is am I getting bottlenecked or not???


And i am sorry for that Narindar Kalsi. 30fps is good for your system and i would not worry about it until upgrade time. If it is you will need a micrometer to measure it



You don;t understand what you are talking about when you are going on about CPUs and how they get bottlenecked game engines if they are slow like OPs CPU.


And you are babbling little monkey throwing *hit. I posted links showing a difference of less than 10fps. What did you offer ? I have a OC 970 and it is bottlenck by my new 7850. It must be AMD fault

Lets solve this Now
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1648099/pll-840-bo...



Why does LOTRO lag in Towns down to 18fps in some spot and my CPU cores are pegged then outside of town it goes back up to 60fps locked. It's a CPU bottleneck and my CPU is much better than OPs.


Who knows maybe you suck at building Bilbo Baggins
system requiremnets for lotro is
Recommended System Requirements

O.S.: Windows® XP/Vista
Processor: Intel Pentium® 4 2.8 GHz or equivalent
RAM: 1GB
Video: 128MB NVIDIA GeForce® 6800 or ATI® Radeon® X850
Disk Space: 10GB available
DirectX: DirectX® 9.0c
Optical Drive: 2X DVD ROM
Connection: Broadband DSL/Cable

http://media.bestofmicro.com/N/A/285958/original/LOTRO%...



Goes to show you do not know what you are talking about if you think that system requirements just to launch the app will play the game smoothly.


No I actually went to the lotro forums and did a little research. Your lag is server side and there is nothing you can do with it so stop blaming amd for your bad internet connection.



No I actually checked my CPU usage and all 4 cores were pegged at 100% in town when the lagging occurs with lots of NPCs on screen at once indicating it's a CPU bottleneck. If it was a server issue then I would lag outside of town as well. See in areas of MMOs where there are allot of NPCs and players on screen it takes much CPU power. Also GW2 lags allot as well as WoW because MMOs take up allot of CPU resources which Phenom II CPUs lack.


Something is deffinatly wrong with your pc. Pegging all four cores is not right fo this game based on what i am reading

LoTRO: Only using one Processor Core

I noticed a significant drop in loading performance when I upgraded to an AMD Phenom Tri-core. Watching my performance, I realized why: this game doesn't utilize multiple cores. It throws everything on one core, which is why logging in takes me a full two minutes.

I checked with a friend who recently got an i7, and he has the same issue- one core bears the burden, and the rest run idle.



Cherry picking information from the first forum that shows up on the search a forum that is 3 years old is not very indicative of how the game runs today.


Cherry picking one game is no better and just how is lotro a modern game ?

also have you checked the link you now have 4 people to argue with

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April 9, 2013 3:03:08 PM

Duke Nucome said:
tourist said:


Cherry picking one game is no better and just how is lotro a modern game ?



It's called updates MMOs are dynamically changing with every update and expansion. Quit while ahead because you are not making sense and only you think that a Phenom II x4 840 is not a bottleneck.

"Dual-core processors with just two threads couldn't deliver playable performance with the Phenom II X2 570 rendering just 26fps and the Athlon II X2 265 only 21fps."
http://www.techspot.com/review/608-hitman-absolution-pe...

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/150/AMD_Phenom_II_X2_5...


You should be a comedian with your laughable diatribe . You keep backpedaling yet here i am still saying that a 7770 is not bottle necking his 840 to a notable degree . I even put the question out there in another thread, One you have not bothered to post in to get this away from the op thread. WHY ? >

If you are so sure your right. ? post in the other thread because i am done in this one. Myi best answer pick went to imomun because he at least had the sense to realize it would take high end hardware and a heavy cpu game to notice it

Good day



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