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New PC EXTREME LY fast Build - Photoshop, Video Editing, CAD, High Performance but NO oc'ing.

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April 7, 2013 10:24:17 AM

New Job, Max Budget of $10,000 before taxes and I need a seriously fast computer.

Please note:
I want to use the same computer to do multiple tasks, so I want to get 3 hard drive caddies, 3 copies of windows 7 x64.

1st HDD Drive caddy will be for Photoshop alone. Image stitching using Auto Pano or Microsoft ICE.

2nd Caddy will be for CAD design, and 3d designs from CAD. CAD Design software likes CUDA technology

3rd Drive caddy will be for movie editing.

When I need to say do Photoshop/Photo stitching I'll put in only that drive caddy into the case and do my needs. When done take it out.

I need serious performance though please NO overclocking.
All Air Cooled Components

What is right now fastest market speed GHZ CPU.
What is fastest ram?
What is great motherboard?
What is great power supply?

My case is Antec 1200 Required.

My personal preference is going with enterprise hardware hard drives but does does the community recommend?

Is SSD's the way to go for all this???

I hope to get a Graphics card that is great with Photoshop but is also great with regards to CUDA'ing.

Where am I ordering from? Anywhere in CANADA ONLY.

Thank you
April 7, 2013 10:30:24 AM

I'm not sure you need 3 copies of windows, as the same base hardware is being used for each.

personally I'd be thinking about xeon's probably a dual cpu mobo, and 1 or 2 pro gpu's or a tesla. I can't see this costing more than $5k.

I'm not convinced about your 3 HDD strategy. Personally, I'd go for 4-5 HDD's in raid 5 with a spare for storage or raid 1+0, for redundancy and speed, and then a 512GB SSD for OS and Programs, perhaps a second smaller SSD for swap space (yes it's not great for SSD's but that's why it's small, it's almost discard-able). If you are using 1 drive for each you are limited to the speed and reliability of 1 drive, Vs the raid idea where you have the speed of many + redundancy.

what are you doing for monitors?
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April 7, 2013 10:36:25 AM

Well, looking at your budget, if it is serious... You may want to look into a dual-socket motherboard for two CPUs. Processors aren't rated on only clock speed (or fastest GHz as you put it) anymore, and is more about number of cores, as well as IPC (instructions per cycle) and how well they do in single-threaded tasks as well. Right now a 6-core Sandy Bridge-E processor like the Xeon E5-1660 or Core i7-3970X takes the cake.
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April 7, 2013 10:36:31 AM

Hi :) 

I hope you are NOT planning on BOOTING into Windows from those hd caddies ?

All the best Brett :) 
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April 7, 2013 10:37:35 AM

Brett928S2 said:
Hi :) 

I hope you are NOT planning on BOOTING into Windows from those hd caddies ?

All the best Brett :) 


Yes
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April 7, 2013 10:39:46 AM

moulderhere said:
Brett928S2 said:
Hi :) 

I hope you are NOT planning on BOOTING into Windows from those hd caddies ?

All the best Brett :) 


Yes


Hi :) 

It wont work properly...this has got to be a troll though...lol

External caddies have nowhere near the bus speed you will need...

Just set up a multi boot with INTERNAL drives or partitions...

All the best Brett :) 
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April 7, 2013 10:39:51 AM

moulderhere said:
Brett928S2 said:
Hi :) 

I hope you are NOT planning on BOOTING into Windows from those hd caddies ?

All the best Brett :) 


Yes


agree with bretts inference, not the best idea in the world. Why do you want to do this? See my suggestion in my editted post above.

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April 7, 2013 10:41:15 AM

Brett928S2 said:
moulderhere said:
Brett928S2 said:
Hi :) 

I hope you are NOT planning on BOOTING into Windows from those hd caddies ?

All the best Brett :) 


Yes


Hi :) 

It wont work properly...this has got to be a troll though...lol

External caddies have nowhere near the bus speed you will need...

Just set up a multi boot with INTERNAL drives or partitions...

All the best Brett :) 


Not really, with a caddy that has a sata interface then the speed would be ok, but with the extra joints in the link there is an increased risk of data loss.
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April 7, 2013 10:42:39 AM

Start with an i7 3960/3970X, you have the budget for it.

A great motherboard for these cpus is the asus sabertooth x79.

I would recommend the kingston beast ram. Get 64 gb of that and you're set. If you feel like spending tons of money on ram, go with some corsair platinum, but I prefer the beast...

I don't know what you plan on doing for graphics cards, so I can't recommend a wattage for you. Some great companies that make the best psu's are seasonic, corsair, and evga. Make sure you get at least an 80+ gold efficientcy rating.

For the graphics cards, you have some options. You want cuda, so that means you're going nvidia. They have 2 ultra high end gpus that you would probably want. First, the 690. This is a dual gpu card( 2 680's), so you can only put 2 into your system, but I assure you, that will be plenty. The other is the gtx titan, which is the same price as the 690 ($1000 usd, I don't know what that is in canadian), but is single gpu and less powerful. It draws less power and you can put 4 into a system in sli. Or you could go with a professional card, which I know nothing about.

I don't really know much about the rest of your questions, but I hope I helped with what I did answer.
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April 7, 2013 11:12:03 AM

Norlag said:
Start with an i7 3960/3970X, you have the budget for it.

A great motherboard for these cpus is the asus sabertooth x79.

I would recommend the kingston beast ram. Get 64 gb of that and you're set. If you feel like spending tons of money on ram, go with some corsair platinum, but I prefer the beast...

I don't know what you plan on doing for graphics cards, so I can't recommend a wattage for you. Some great companies that make the best psu's are seasonic, corsair, and evga. Make sure you get at least an 80+ gold efficientcy rating.

For the graphics cards, you have some options. You want cuda, so that means you're going nvidia. They have 2 ultra high end gpus that you would probably want. First, the 690. This is a dual gpu card( 2 680's), so you can only put 2 into your system, but I assure you, that will be plenty. The other is the gtx titan, which is the same price as the 690 ($1000 usd, I don't know what that is in canadian), but is single gpu and less powerful. It draws less power and you can put 4 into a system in sli. Or you could go with a professional card, which I know nothing about.

I don't really know much about the rest of your questions, but I hope I helped with what I did answer.


↑ that is a nice gaming PC, but professional workstations don't work that way.
If I were to build that kind of workstation I'd choose dual xeon, ECC memory and a batch of quadro cards...
As for the drives go> fast and small SSD for system and a fast large SSD for the cache. Plus several green HDD for data (and as I am extremely paranoid, I'd even consider RAID 1 for protection)...

Some info can be found here <link>. It is kinda about an year old, but the basics are true today as they were true then :) 
Also here was a article about doing some serious work with 8 cores <link>.
Also: check this video <link> - it should get you the reason to go with professional cards...
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April 7, 2013 1:58:01 PM

OKay, so update.

I'm not a troll. I just figured a caddy style system is a best way to go for me.

So I wanting a work station, not gaming, and so caddy system you guys blew the idea right out of the water.

So

Removing booting from caddy idea, What is a real work station configuration?
It is now 1 version of Windows 7 x64 for everything.
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April 7, 2013 2:28:18 PM

moulderhere said:
OKay, so update.

I'm not a troll. I just figured a caddy style system is a best way to go for me.

So I wanting a work station, not gaming, and so caddy system you guys blew the idea right out of the water.

So

Removing booting from caddy idea, What is a real work station configuration?
It is now 1 version of Windows 7 x64 for everything.


twin xeons, 512 SSD for OS and programs, 256SSD for swap and cache, 3-4x2TB in raid 5 or 4 in 0+1/1+0 for data, quadro (+ tesla card?) for compute power. ECC memory.

Lookup a workstation and see how it compares?

Would a build that is not so extreme give you 90% of the performance, yes.
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April 7, 2013 3:24:03 PM

What's a good build in the end?
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