CPU Fan speed going crazy

Anthony1025

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Motherboard : ASRock m3A770DE
CPU : AMD Phenom II X4 955e @ 3.2 Ghz
RAM : 8GBs of DDR3 RAM
Video Card : NVIDIA Geforce GTX 560

I just bought a new power supply today(GS800watt Corsair). My dad and I put it together earlier today and had no problems. All of a sudden an hour ago my CPU fan speed increased to 5000+ RPMs and the noise is frustrating. The idle temp rose from 30C to about 45-50C now ever since this happened. It use to be that my fan speeds were at 2000-3000RPMS and the idle temp was much lower. I have no idea what could have changed it. Maybe the power supply...

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me.
 
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for what you want to do just run it nothing needs to be set.

automatic is for you to set how long the program will run and shut itself off
infinite will run till you manually stop it
Idle time is how long before and/or after the program will keep monitoring the system. it has a monitoring system that will log a bunch of info during the run period.

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Yeah Phenom fans are noisy and can really get spinning. Before i bought another cooler for mine, I used a application that came with my motherboard to set it to not go over 50% speed. Maybe you can find a program for now to control fan speeds.
 

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Yeah, I wanted to do that eventually, but why did the RPMs and temps randomly increase like that? Also, I want the Hyper 212+, but its to big for my case.

 

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Maybe you bumped the CPU cooler when you were installing the PSU especially if your case is small. Take off the CPU cooler and wipe off the thermal paste with rubbing alcohol. Then apply about a piece of rice sized amount of thermal paste on the CPU and place the CPU cooler on it firmly so it spreads the paste. If you don't have any, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186038 this stuff is golden.
 


personally i prefer the Artic Silver 5 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007 and works better IMHO.
 

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If it absolutely does not go down when you try all the other suggested solutions, go into the BIOS and spam F9(assuming you have older BIOS). This happened to me, but it was worse because the computer would shut down after about 45 seconds of ear-shattering whining. I was fast enough to F9, so it might work for you.
 

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Hahahaha! Buddy... AS5 is outdated. it has a curing time and will turn into cement after long use. It's ancient technology now. Almost anything is better than artic silver 5 now. MX-4 is usually performs 5c lower, much easier to spread, works instantly (no curing time) and will last forever unlike that AS5 crap. Look up performance charts and forums. It's outdated.
 


HUH??? he has the same MB as I do execpt ddr3 ram and i'm still wondering HUH?
 

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This is what I plan on doing next Friday. I just don't understand how for 5 hours everything is going good, then out of nowhere, my RPMs increase by 2000. In the task manager my CPU usage goes up to 6% and my temps are about 38C now, but my RPMs are still at 5000. Would changing my FAN speed options in the BIOS help for now?

 


If it spreads easier, than it is like water. yes there maybe curing time but it is a tried and tested TIM and is does not need a card to spread it.

EDIT ok i did what you asked and found this. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/266009-29-thermal-paste

Edit again then i found this where the MX 4 is below the silver 5 http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermal-Compound-Roundup-February-2012/1490/5
 


not unless to can get the usage below 1% varying to 10% but mostly at 1% or below. are you sure you don't have a program running in the back ground? use task manager and processes to find out what is using the most CPU usage.
 

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I went into my BIOS and I set the 'Target Fan Speed' to 5. It was set to 9. As soon as I rebooted the FAN speed decreased back down to 3000 RPMs and my temps are at 40C. Everything seems to be normal now. I still should pick up a aftermarket cooler though. Thanks
 

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The most CPU intensive program I have running is Google Chrome and that does use alot of memory.
Also, not sure if this is normal, but whenever I open the task manager it says my CPU usage is around 40-50% and then immediately changes to around 4-10%.
 
that can happen because the cpu is being used to open a new Program BUT it should go below 4%. are you sure that that is the lowest the CPU goes for utilization?

edit: shut down chrome and all normal programs running then open task manager. select processes, then on the bottom show windows processes than expand the window all the way and wait. give it time and watch the CPU usage and see if it goes up and if it does look for what program is causing it. Sometimes the program will stop using so much CPU when you move your mouse. So it may take a while to fined it.

This can happen when a program only runs when your PC is at idle.
 

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I opened the task manager and it showed I have about 20 processes in the chart(5 of those are Google Chrome tasks), but it says I have 50 processes at the bottom left. My usage fluctuates from anywhere to 0 to 10%.
 


then this may not help then. but please read my edit to make sure you don't miss what i already mentioned.
 

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When I opened the task manager and closed all programs, my cpu usage stayed at 0%. When I open start moving my mouse the only tasks that increase my usage was the desktop, task manager, and explorer. It only increased to about 2 or 3% though. I just have a question. When I click on 'show processes from all users' why are there 50 processes in the list using CPU memory? Are they suppose to be running in the background?

I'm not sure if you read earlier, but I already resolved my CPU fan speed problem by doing what you said to do in the BIOS. Should I still be concerned about my usage in the task manager even though my temps and RPMs have returned to normal?
 

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When I opened the task manager and closed all programs, my cpu usage stayed at 0%. When I open start moving my mouse the only tasks that increase my usage was the desktop, task manager, and explorer. It only increased to about 2 or 3% though. I just have a question. When I click on 'show processes from all users' why are there 50 processes in the list using CPU memory? Are they suppose to be running in the background?

I'm not sure if you read earlier, but I already resolved my CPU fan speed problem by doing what you said to do in the BIOS. Should I still be concerned about my usage in the task manager even though my temps and RPMs have returned to normal?
 

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That HardwareSecrets website has false results. I've personally tested AS5, NT-H1, Coolermaster and MX-4 using the exact same amount using the same spreading method and AS5 came in last place, 2c higher above the Coolermaster stuff you get with a Hyper212+. I tested again with AS5 to make sure I didn't make a mistake mounting it and the temp was a degree higher the second time. That stuff is garbage. Ask anyone who knows their stuff, including me.

MX-4 is one of the best spreading thermal pastes around. It's not too thick or too thin like the previous MX-3 (it was like water). Even MX-2 kicked AS5's ass. MX-4 is also non-conductive because it's not made out of silver like AS5.

To the OP: Manually lowering the fan speeds will work perfectly for now just make sure your temps stay below 70c. I personally use coretemp in my Win7 taskbar to monitor temps 24/7. Also, what case do you have so I can find you a good small cooler if you do wish to upgrade in the future? You really should because the Phenom II x4s are fun to OC and you won't be able to do that much on the stock cooler. Mainly because the fan noise will drive you insane hahaha.
 

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Yes there will always be 50+ background processes. I normally have 70 on my high end desktop and my CPU usage is usually 2% but keep in mind it's a 3770k (8 threads) and at 4.7GHz but because it's a quadcore with 2 threads on each core it's more like 4% load. Having your CPU usage at around 7% idle is normal considering my CPU is more than twice as fast as yours and having 50-80 background processes is normal.
 


If all has returned to normal there is no need for concern. then you solution has been found an i Must have missed the fact you said you fixed it. Glad we could help.
 

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Okay, let's see, this will be a long post haha. I manually lowered my fans speed and that is working perfectly right now. My IDLE cpu fan rpm's are at 3000 and my temps are at 39C. That's somewhat cool and quiet.

Now here's where the problem starts again. I just tested to see how hot cpu would get and how fast my fan would spin while gaming. Within gaming for 10 minutes my cpu temps reach 60c and my fan rpm's hit over 6000, which is way too much in my opinion. It didn't do that until I bought this power supply ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139047 ).

A couple days ago I was gaming for about 30 minutes and my cpu temps were 50-58c and my rpm's were a lot lower;causing NO noise issues at all. I was using a really poor thermaltake power supply at the time and that's why I bought the new corsair one today. But like I said earlier ever since I bought the new power supply the fan noise and speeds on my cpu are have become an issue. I'm not sure if it's the power supply causing this or if the stock cooler was knocked out of place while trying to install the corsair psu. Also, I noticed that there is no exhaust coming from the back of my power supply. I'm not sure if that's normal. On the newegg page, it says it doesn't spin until it needs to so maybe that's why it has no exhaust. btw sorry for this long post, I'm just feeling nervous.