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April 7, 2013 10:27:21 PM



Hi all,
I am upgrading a lot of my system and plan to use it heavily for gaming, and want it to be prepared for the new top notch games coming out over the next few years as well.
I am to replace my motherboard, cpu, get more ram, replace my psu and get another graphics card and cpu cooler.

My current case which is a aerocool cyborg x case should be fine so ill keep it, i have a solid state for my os, and 2 other 1 tb hard drives.

I am looking to purchase an Asus rampage IV motherboard, but i cant decide whether to get the 3770k ivy bridge or the 3820 sandy bridge. Keep in mind ill probably overclock it to at least 4ghz, and i want a good cpu and therefore a motherboard that will get me through the next few years of good gaming. Im just looking at either the 3770k or 3820, no others, so im wondering if its only worth getting the 3820 just for the fact that i would need a 2011 mobo which will future proof me for a while, but if its not really worth it then id go the 3770k.

The graphics card ill get is the gtx 680 4gb card by asus, evga or gigbyte, and will in the future buy another so i will sli, but only 1 for the meantime.

RAM i will get 2 8gb sticks of 2400 so i should be set with it for a while, its the G.skill trident sticks.

My PSU ill get a corsair 860i as i was informed it should be enough for everything, as well as when i eventually sli.

For the CPU cooler i was looking at getting one of the prefilled water coolers so it doesnt take up RAM slots that ill want to use, i was looking at the corsair prefilled H80i.

I would appreciate thoughts on all of this, help with determining which cpu i should go for, if the psu is sufficient enough for my desires and thoughts on the cpu cooler, as well as just any thoughts on this that might help me.

Any input would be much appreciated, as i intend to max all graphics on any game atm!
Cheers!



Cause im in Australia this is the best website to buy parts off, and i cant decide which motherboard to get, keeping in mind im getting a 3820 and i want to eventually sli 680's.
This is the page of the motherboards and i dont want to spend more than $500 max: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPa...
April 7, 2013 10:47:55 PM

Any advice would be appreciated
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April 7, 2013 10:55:19 PM

i7 3770k should be plenty. I cant see in the next 7 years using 12 threads for gaming.

gtx 680's are good; 7970's are better usually(it varies from game to game), and cheaper.

860 w will be plenty.
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April 7, 2013 11:03:08 PM

Ok ty for the reply, what about the ram if i do go for the 3770k? Will is till be able to use 2400 ram or will it be lower? And is the 3770k pretty much the same as the 3820 anyways?
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April 7, 2013 11:05:40 PM

ChaseTheSun said:
Ok ty for the reply, what about the ram if i do go for the 3770k? Will is till be able to use 2400 ram or will it be lower? And is the 3770k pretty much the same as the 3820 anyways?


The 3770k actually outperforms the 3820; its the same but Ivy bridge, and lga 1155 instead of 2011. Both have 4 cores, 8 threads.

not sure about the ram.
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April 7, 2013 11:19:41 PM

Ok. Another thing i just looked at is the fact that both of the motherboards are extended ATX, and my aerocool cyborg x says that its atx, so im wondering if now i need new case as well because of this :s HELP!
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April 8, 2013 12:26:51 AM

help would be appreciated
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April 8, 2013 2:38:56 AM

the only thing i have to say is:between the 3770k and 3820 the 3770k performs way better!
also for gaming you dont really need these cpus!in case you dont use them for rendering or something like that i would say no!
and i5 3570k can handle every single game and can be oc!also there is the option of waiting hasswell(very good cpus)!
but in real why to take an i7 for gaming?it was firstly made for rendering and no game can really use most of the half cpu!its like a waste!
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April 8, 2013 3:18:18 AM

A lot of the parts you want are overkill for gaming and won't offer you any benefits. Pick up the 3570k, CM 212+ or EVO and if you want better cooling put the second fan on it, the h80i won't offer any real benefits except drain your wallet faster (as in no better overclocks compared to the 212 I can almost guarantee it). And you don't need the expensive mobo, you can pick up a good z77 mobo for $130 or under for google single card setup boards around that price for good dual card setups boards (thats in US $, don't know the pricing in AUS). And don't bother getting the really high end ram it provides so little performance increase in gaming its not worth it, just pick up 8 or 16gb of ddr1600 or better ram with heat sinks that you can get for cheap and tighten the timings/OC if you really wanted to. Use that spare cash you just saved for a higher end GPU such as an GTX 690, Radeon 7990 or the Titan (or dual card setup) this will net you much higher FPS while playing games. From a quick glance at the changes I would make you end up with more than enough cash for one of these higher end GPU's.

Quick example I threw together so you understand what I am saying better, I know this is in the US for pricing and stores but just an example.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PfGf
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PfGf/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PfGf/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.49 @ Amazon)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($89.25 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($436.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($436.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($104.33 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1422.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-08 06:31 EDT-0400)
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April 8, 2013 3:43:08 AM

This is the type of response i wanted, thankyou so much assasin, helps out a lot and ill look into it now and let you know my thoughts! <3
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April 8, 2013 3:59:51 AM

Assasin im looking at getting a 4gb gtx 680, is it a better option than sli 2gb cards?
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April 8, 2013 4:05:05 AM

Also would it be better to just get a gtx 690 4gb than bothering with the 680 or sli'ing it?
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April 8, 2013 5:08:53 AM

2 links, one to Titan, and other comparison to gtx 690 and 7990 between the 2 should give you an good idea where they stand.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-titan-p...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7990-devi...

As for 2gb vs 4gb, don't know your monitor resolution which will play a factor.

As for sli/crossfire vs gtx 690/7990 the choice is a bit harder to make.

SLI/Crossfire: Cheaper typically, pay a little bit more on motherboard (you don't need 2x 3.0pci-e running at full 16x, 8x and 8x will be just fine), the cards will also typically clocked higher than their single card counterparts. Downside is they take up a lot of room in the case, harder to cool.

GtX 690/7990 setup: Can get away with cheaper motherboard that doesnt offer good dual card capabilities (while keeping good OC potential), easier to cool, and slightly more expensive overall (expecting roughly $50-70 US overall), more room in the case, usually clocked lower than their single card couterparts.

Titan: Single GPU so no potential hassle with sli/crossfire, generally lower FPS than these other setups.

If you just want raw performance go with SLI/Crossfire and OC those cards. For me I personally would have probably ended up with the 7990/Titan one of those if I had to choose, mainly due to the fact that I want to keep my options to further expand (sound card, raid card, and possibly wifi card in the future so 2 dual slot cards for me isn't a good option).

Also look up microstutter for crossfire/sli, I know it's a potential problem but I am not too well verse in it as I usually preach single card solutions when I can.
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