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April 8, 2013 10:58:51 PM

Can anyone suggest me a fast, reliable SSD for my build? I heard that some SSDs are hard to install and arent reliable. Im ok with 120gb-256gb. thanks!

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April 8, 2013 11:03:39 PM

OCZ Vertex 4. There are 128GB and 256GB variants.

EDIT: It's reliable and fast (from my own experiences) though it's fairly old and expensive. Consider buying newer models.
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April 8, 2013 11:12:55 PM

Upgrades said:
OCZ Vertex 4. There are 128GB and 256GB variants.


Ummmm no. OCZ has the worst record for reliability. Samsung, Crucial and Intel are the most reliable. Samsung 840 for general use or the 840 Pro for high performance. The 840 Pro is the fastest drive on the market. The only thing close in speed is the OCZ Vector and just based on some OCZ drives failing at a 40% rate! I would not buy one until they prove they have the reliability thing fixed.
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April 8, 2013 11:14:37 PM

The Vertex 4 has gotten pretty expensive at this point.

The most reliable, and fastest, on the market, is the OCZ Vector.

Other than that, the second quick, and also insanely reliable, is the Samsung 840 Pro.

The 840 non-pro, 830, OCZ Vertex 4, and Crucial M4 are also good picks, but not as good, and might be more expensive due to being older tech.
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April 8, 2013 11:15:36 PM

One of the most reliable and still fast ssds would be an intel 520, It is on the expensive side as far as ssds go, it's targeted more towards pro usage than enthusiasts but it's fast and I haven't had 1 single issue with mine.
Other than that I would look at the vertex 4, most early bugs I believe have been worked out also maybe a samsung 840 pro.

If your looking for speed most ssds are plenty fast, reliability go with the intel 520 or samsung 840 pro.
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April 8, 2013 11:18:21 PM

anort3 said:
Ummmm no. OCZ has the worst record for reliability. Samsung, Crucial and Intel are the most reliable. Samsung 840 for general use or the 840 Pro for high performance. The 840 Pro is the fastest drive on the market. The only thing close in speed is the OCZ Vector and just based on some OCZ drives failing at a 40% rate! I would not buy one until they prove they have the reliability thing fixed.


Wrong.

OCZ used to use a poor controller - since the Vertex 4 series, they've used an in-house controller, which fixed ALL reliability problems they had. It's been tested to hell, and they've proven themselves; OCZ is now a very solid, reliable contender.

The OCZ Vector actually has better write speeds than the 840 Pro by a significant amount, and thus is considered the fastest overall SSD right now, though it's not the fastest at pure random reads.

As for the other brands, I agree with you that Samsung and Crucial are good, but Corsair doesn't have anything that can keep up any more. Sadly, tech, especially emerging tech like SSDs, changes so quickly that it's hard to keep track - the people on the bottom can suddenly be on top, and those on top fall behind quickly if they don't keep innovation up to a very high standard.
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April 8, 2013 11:19:27 PM

jarnail24 said:
One of the most reliable and still fast ssds would be an intel 520, It is on the expensive side as far as ssds go, it's targeted more towards pro usage than enthusiasts but it's fast and I haven't had 1 single issue with mine.
Other than that I would look at the vertex 4, most early bugs I believe have been worked out also maybe a samsung 840 pro.

If your looking for speed most ssds are plenty fast, reliability go with the intel 520 or samsung 840 pro.


That's a good point - I forgot about intel. However, the 500 series of drives are really designed for an enterprise setup - a 335 would be a better pick for a gaming rig.
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April 8, 2013 11:23:00 PM

DarkSable said:
jarnail24 said:
One of the most reliable and still fast ssds would be an intel 520, It is on the expensive side as far as ssds go, it's targeted more towards pro usage than enthusiasts but it's fast and I haven't had 1 single issue with mine.
Other than that I would look at the vertex 4, most early bugs I believe have been worked out also maybe a samsung 840 pro.

If your looking for speed most ssds are plenty fast, reliability go with the intel 520 or samsung 840 pro.


That's a good point - I forgot about intel. However, the 500 series of drives are really designed for an enterprise setup - a 335 would be a better pick for a gaming rig.


I do agree but if the op is using this at all for business I would still go with 500 series, if only for a personal build than the 335 is still a good choice.

Op has to let us know what price he's willing to pay? I'm also assuming he values reliability because his main question is which one is most reliable. Price is not a concern I would go with 525 which I have myself,
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April 8, 2013 11:24:41 PM

i might go with the Samsung 840 Series 250gb. It isnt hard to install the ssd right? sorry im a noob. I might go with a Gigabyte Z77x Ud3H btw.
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April 8, 2013 11:29:43 PM

kwotza said:
i might go with the Samsung 840 Series 250gb. It isnt hard to install the ssd right? sorry im a noob. I might go with a Gigabyte Z77x Ud3H btw.


Personally I still think that's an excellent choice Not to bad, installation is like every other hard drive, plug it in and install windows or linux personally, If your using windows install the samsung software and it will update they firmware if a newer one is available.

I would try to find an additional $40 for the pro model but you probably wouldn't able to tell a major difference anyway unless your using this for business applications.

It would also help if you gave us a price range your wanting stick to?
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April 8, 2013 11:30:28 PM

I guess I haven't been looking into SSD's much these days...I bought the Vertex 4 late last year and now the price has shot up, more expensive then I bought it.

After reading Tom's Hardware Best SSD's for the money article, I can tell you that Samsung 840 Pro, OCZ Vector and Intel 520 SSD's (as some folks mentioned above) are among the best.
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April 8, 2013 11:39:12 PM

jarnail24 said:
kwotza said:
i might go with the Samsung 840 Series 250gb. It isnt hard to install the ssd right? sorry im a noob. I might go with a Gigabyte Z77x Ud3H btw.


Personally I still think that's an excellent choice Not to bad, installation is like every other hard drive, plug it in and install windows or linux personally, If your using windows install the samsung software and it will update they firmware if a newer one is available.

I would try to find an additional $40 for the pro model but you probably wouldn't able to tell a major difference anyway unless your using this for business applications.

It would also help if you gave us a price range your wanting stick to?


$230 for the ssd. The Samsung 840 is currently $170 on Amazon so i might get that.



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April 8, 2013 11:44:29 PM

kwotza said:
i might go with the Samsung 840 Series 250gb. It isnt hard to install the ssd right? sorry im a noob. I might go with a Gigabyte Z77x Ud3H btw.


Couple things. First of all, I'd go with a smaller 840 PRO or OCZ Vector *(Or intel 3- or 5-) over a larger 840 non-pro, for reliability and speed. The non-pro 840 is even slower than the 830 it's supposedly an upgrade from.

Installing the SSD is just like installing a hard drive; that is to say, the easiest thing you can do in a computer aside from installing RAM.

Finally, I have a fair bit of experience with that particular motherboard, and all I can say is avoid it like the plague. It's BIOS is buggy and awful (it loses settings about 70% of the time you try to tell it to save, causing untold hours of frustration when overclocking or even setting the primary boot device), isn't that great of an overclocker, and is made by gigabyte, who has pretty awful customer service.

For that price, I'd look at an AsRock z77 Extreme 4 or 6 - they're user friendly, feature-packed, EXTREMELY well built, good overclockers, and come with a good warranty and decent customer service. (Not the quickest, but for how much better they are than anything else in that price range, it's forgivable.)



Upgrades said:
I guess I haven't been looking into SSD's much these days...I bought the Vertex 4 late last year and now the price has shot up, more expensive then I bought it.

After reading Tom's Hardware Best SSD's for the money article, I can tell you that Samsung 840 Pro, OCZ Vector and Intel 520 SSD's (as some folks mentioned above) are among the best.


Yeah, they don't make Vertex 4's anymore, so the price has skyrocketed. Kind of sad, since they used to be the best budget SSDs out there.

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April 8, 2013 11:45:59 PM

DarkSable said:
The Vertex 4 has gotten pretty expensive at this point.

The most reliable, and fastest, on the market, is the OCZ Vector.

Other than that, the second quick, and also insanely reliable, is the Samsung 840 Pro.

The 840 non-pro, 830, OCZ Vertex 4, and Crucial M4 are also good picks, but not as good, and might be more expensive due to being older tech.


I don't know what benchmarks you are looking at with the Vector on top but with Anandtech's real world testing the 840 Pro is on top in 16 of 20 tests.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6363/ocz-vector-review-25...

Also the Vector has only been out about 6 months. Way to early to call OCZ's reliability issues fixed. I have a 34nm Vertex 2 with the first gen Sandforce controller so I have nothing against OCZ. But OCZ has an overall return rate of 5-7% with some drives doing very poorly.

http://www.behardware.com/articles/881-7/components-ret...

- 40.00% for the OCZ Petrol 64 GB
- 39.42% for the OCZ Petrol 128 GB
- 30.85% for the OCZ Octane 128 GB SATA II
- 29.46% for the OCZ Octane 64 GB SATA II
- 9.73% for the OCZ Vertex 2 120 GB 3.5"
- 9.59% for the OCZ Vertex 2 120 GB
- 6.73% for the OCZ Vertex 2 60 GB
- 5.43% for the OCZ Agility 3 240 GB
- 5.12% for the OCZ Vertex Plus 128 GB
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April 8, 2013 11:49:01 PM

I'd still go for the samsung 840 pro for abut $210 on sale for the 240GB but you still probably won't notice the difference in day 2 day games and programs but theoretically the pro is also alot more reliable.
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April 8, 2013 11:54:54 PM

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I don't know what benchmarks you are looking at with the Vector on top but with Anandtech's real world testing the 840 Pro is on top in 16 of 20 tests.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6363/ocz-vector-review-25...

Also the Vector has only been out about 6 months. Way to early to call OCZ's reliability issues fixed. I have a 34nm Vertex 2 with the first gen Sandforce controller so I have nothing against OCZ. But OCZ has an overall return rate of 5-7% with some drives doing very poorly.

http://www.behardware.com/articles/881-7/components-ret...

- 40.00% for the OCZ Petrol 64 GB
- 39.42% for the OCZ Petrol 128 GB
- 30.85% for the OCZ Octane 128 GB SATA II
- 29.46% for the OCZ Octane 64 GB SATA II
- 9.73% for the OCZ Vertex 2 120 GB 3.5"
- 9.59% for the OCZ Vertex 2 120 GB
- 6.73% for the OCZ Vertex 2 60 GB
- 5.43% for the OCZ Agility 3 240 GB
- 5.12% for the OCZ Vertex Plus 128 GB


I'm not looking at benchmarks, I'm looking at performance data - the Vector wins on random reads and writes, the 840 pro wins on sequential reads and writes.

OCZ's reliablility issues have been fixed since before the Vertex 4 came out - like I said, it was due to a bad out-of-house controller, which was subsequently fixed with a firmware and bios update.

Good for you, you can quote the return rate of OLD products that were known to be glitchy, were fixed, and have absolutely ZERO impact on today's market, especially after the company completely changed its technology. They "now" no longer use a sandforce controller, instead they use a completely in-house controller, the barefoot 3.
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April 9, 2013 12:05:55 AM

Yes and the Samsung drives with a .48% return rate not only have their own controller they manufacture their own NAND and are the only company to actually make an SSD from the ground up. Spend your money however you want. I will stick with proven reliability. OCZ used retail buyers as beta testers for too many years for me to trust them. And if the Vector does turn out to have long term issues OCZ could very well go out of business making any warranty you have useless. I don't see Samsung going under anytime soon.

Besides any SSD is like 800 percent faster than a mechanical drive. The difference between my 3 year old Vertex 2 and a Vector is 800% vs 803% with the difference between the Vector and the 840 Pro being 803.0000001% vs 803.0000002. It's truly irrelevant. Windows boots in well under 20 seconds even on my ancient drive.
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April 9, 2013 12:21:00 AM

Tbh, I'm going to have to take anort3's side in this one. The Samsung 840 Pro series SSDs are some of the best on the market. They frequently appear at or near the very top of every benchmark list. The 830 series isn't quite as fast, but honestly, how often are you actually utilizing a 500MB/sec read speed to it's limits? Even a gigabit network only supports as much as 128MB/sec. The only computing situation where you'll push even the lowest end SSDs to it's upper limits would be something along the lines of server use.

Anyways, I'm going to ask for peace to be had before this thread winds up being closed. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, but it shouldn't turn into an argument. Just agree to disagree.
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April 9, 2013 12:38:04 AM

anort3 said:
Yes and the Samsung drives with a .48% return rate not only have their own controller they manufacture their own NAND and are the only company to actually make an SSD from the ground up. Spend your money however you want. I will stick with proven reliability. OCZ used retail buyers as beta testers for too many years for me to trust them. And if the Vector does turn out to have long term issues OCZ could very well go out of business making any warranty you have useless. I don't see Samsung going under anytime soon.

Besides any SSD is like 800 percent faster than a mechanical drive. The difference between my 3 year old Vertex 2 and a Vector is 800% vs 803% with the difference between the Vector and the 840 Pro being 803.0000001% vs 803.0000002. It's truly irrelevant. Windows boots in well under 20 seconds even on my ancient drive.


I'm sorry, but the return rates you're relying on don't matter - they're for extremely old tech that doesn't have anything to do to what's being produced now. Yes, OCZ had a problem, but they fixed it, and I consider the Vertex 4, and the 6 months of the Vector, to show that. (As for your point about your mistrust of it, you have a point there - though I see it as them not having the funding to be able to develop the controller they did until the time they did.)

There have been rumours circulating about OCZ going out of business for a long time, but they haven't yet, and I for one consider them to be a definite contender in the market now - I've read nothing but good things about both the Vertex 4 and, now, the Vector.

As for your final point, and Apanzee's... well, it's certainly valid. There won't be any practical difference between any high-end SSD, and they'll all blow the mind of anyone who hasn't used one before. I apologize for responding to combativeness words with the same, but I have a tendency to defend OCZ now that they've cleaned up their act, and I don't want anyone to write them off wholesale because of mistakes made in the past that are now rectified.

(And for the record, I have owned two Vertex 4's, a Vector, an 840 Pro, and an 830 - I currently use the Vertex 4's in my desktop, the 840 pro in my netbook, the 830 in my mother's laptop back home, and the Vertex in her desktop. And no, there's really no noticeable difference between any of them that's not caused by the difference in hardware.)
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April 9, 2013 1:08:44 AM

DarkSable said:
kwotza said:
i might go with the Samsung 840 Series 250gb. It isnt hard to install the ssd right? sorry im a noob. I might go with a Gigabyte Z77x Ud3H btw.


Couple things. First of all, I'd go with a smaller 840 PRO or OCZ Vector *(Or intel 3- or 5-) over a larger 840 non-pro, for reliability and speed. The non-pro 840 is even slower than the 830 it's supposedly an upgrade from.

Installing the SSD is just like installing a hard drive; that is to say, the easiest thing you can do in a computer aside from installing RAM.

Finally, I have a fair bit of experience with that particular motherboard, and all I can say is avoid it like the plague. It's BIOS is buggy and awful (it loses settings about 70% of the time you try to tell it to save, causing untold hours of frustration when overclocking or even setting the primary boot device), isn't that great of an overclocker, and is made by gigabyte, who has pretty awful customer service.

For that price, I'd look at an AsRock z77 Extreme 4 or 6 - they're user friendly, feature-packed, EXTREMELY well built, good overclockers, and come with a good warranty and decent customer service. (Not the quickest, but for how much better they are than anything else in that price range, it's forgivable.)



Upgrades said:
I guess I haven't been looking into SSD's much these days...I bought the Vertex 4 late last year and now the price has shot up, more expensive then I bought it.

After reading Tom's Hardware Best SSD's for the money article, I can tell you that Samsung 840 Pro, OCZ Vector and Intel 520 SSD's (as some folks mentioned above) are among the best.


Yeah, they don't make Vertex 4's anymore, so the price has skyrocketed. Kind of sad, since they used to be the best budget SSDs out there.



DarkSable said:
anort3 said:
Yes and the Samsung drives with a .48% return rate not only have their own controller they manufacture their own NAND and are the only company to actually make an SSD from the ground up. Spend your money however you want. I will stick with proven reliability. OCZ used retail buyers as beta testers for too many years for me to trust them. And if the Vector does turn out to have long term issues OCZ could very well go out of business making any warranty you have useless. I don't see Samsung going under anytime soon.

Besides any SSD is like 800 percent faster than a mechanical drive. The difference between my 3 year old Vertex 2 and a Vector is 800% vs 803% with the difference between the Vector and the 840 Pro being 803.0000001% vs 803.0000002. It's truly irrelevant. Windows boots in well under 20 seconds even on my ancient drive.


I'm sorry, but the return rates you're relying on don't matter - they're for extremely old tech that doesn't have anything to do to what's being produced now. Yes, OCZ had a problem, but they fixed it, and I consider the Vertex 4, and the 6 months of the Vector, to show that. (As for your point about your mistrust of it, you have a point there - though I see it as them not having the funding to be able to develop the controller they did until the time they did.)

There have been rumours circulating about OCZ going out of business for a long time, but they haven't yet, and I for one consider them to be a definite contender in the market now - I've read nothing but good things about both the Vertex 4 and, now, the Vector.

As for your final point, and Apanzee's... well, it's certainly valid. There won't be any practical difference between any high-end SSD, and they'll all blow the mind of anyone who hasn't used one before. I apologize for responding to combativeness words with the same, but I have a tendency to defend OCZ now that they've cleaned up their act, and I don't want anyone to write them off wholesale because of mistakes made in the past that are now rectified.

(And for the record, I have owned two Vertex 4's, a Vector, an 840 Pro, and an 830 - I currently use the Vertex 4's in my desktop, the 840 pro in my netbook, the 830 in my mother's laptop back home, and the Vertex in her desktop. And no, there's really no noticeable difference between any of them that's not caused by the difference in hardware.)


Samsung 840 Pro 256gb it is. How about the Corsair SSDs? Like the Neutron GTX?

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April 9, 2013 1:10:45 AM

kwotza said:

Samsung 840 Pro 256gb it is. How about the Corsair SSDs? Like the Neutron GTX?


They won't perform quite as well, but if they're significantly cheaper, go for it.

Like we eventually wound down into realizing, the difference between higher-end SSDs isn't going to be noticeable whatsoever.
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April 9, 2013 3:57:07 AM

DarkSable said:
kwotza said:

Samsung 840 Pro 256gb it is. How about the Corsair SSDs? Like the Neutron GTX?


They won't perform quite as well, but if they're significantly cheaper, go for it.

Like we eventually wound down into realizing, the difference between higher-end SSDs isn't going to be noticeable whatsoever.


how about this one? its listed on the $1000 build on this site. http://www.amazon.com/Mushkin-Chronos-Deluxe-2-5-Inch-M...
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October 19, 2013 1:11:25 PM

my OCZ Vector just failed after 3mths, I'll never trust them again. Samsung 840 here I come.
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October 19, 2013 3:02:41 PM

840 PRO , I have 6 of them all still running smoothly.
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October 19, 2013 3:19:56 PM

Old thread from April. ;) 
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